Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 494

                 Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 494

 

                           Monday, October 28th 1991

 

Today's Topics:

 

                             Spon. Human Combustion

                                  BENTWATERS,UK

                                Dr. Fredrick Bell

                                  Re: FOX Show

                               Re: Erol Torun/DMA

                                   Re: Hello!

                              Re: ParaNet 9600 bps

                                     Roswell

                                    UFO shows

                              crop circles and SHC

                                      nodes

                             Spon. Human Combustion

                              Re: Paranet 9600 Bps

                              Re: Paranet 9600 Bps

                                      Angel


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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)

Subject: Spon. Human Combustion

Date: 24 Oct 91 11:14:00 GMT


Hi Sheldon.  RE:  Your post to Rob Trevelyan on SHC...


 >      In regards to your ball lightning question, a rather

 > interesting case was reported last year at the 1990 Ball

 > Lightning

 > Conference, held in Budapest. The incident took place on

 > May 25,

 > 1989, in a field by the roadside near Kerecseud, a village

 > 65 miles

 > from Budapest. The victim was a 27 year old engineer WITHIN

 > WHOSE

 > BODY, it is conjectured, ball lightning formed. The man had

 > stopped

 > his car and walked to the edge of a field about 30 feet

 > distant to

 > urinate. Suddenly, his wife, who had remained behind in the

 > car,

 > saw that her husband was surrounded by a blue light. He

 > opened his

 > arms wide and fell to the ground. His wife ran to him,

 > noticing

 > that one of his tennis shoes had been torn off. Amazingly,


The very first thing that comes to mind here is whether 

overloaded high-tension or low-tension wires were nearby.  Since 

this incident occurred at a roadside, nearby power lines may 

well have been present.


If such lines are overloaded or badly insulated, fatal arcing 

can occur FROM THE GROUND at a considerable distance from the 

power lines.  This has happened often in our country, in rural 

areas where public utilities have quietly overloaded their 

lines.  The resulting discharges *can easily electrocute 

livestock* over 1/4 mile from the "leaky" H/T lines. I bet that 

Hungarian utility agencies are guilty of the same practice...


 >      At the autopsy, a hole was found in the man's heel where the

 > shoe had been. The lungs were torn and damaged, and the stomach and

 > belly were carbonized! This is indicative of internal combustion,

 > just as the blue light is suggestive of atmospheric electricity,

 > while the damaged heel and shoe are denotative of electrical

 > grounding. No other effects of local atmospheric electricity were

 > noticed. The sky was overcast and conditions possibly suitable for

 > a thunderstorm. The couple had earlier passed through a

 > thunderstorm when 35 miles away, but at the site of the tragedy it

 > was dry and rainless. Do you feel this incident may help to explain

 > the cases of so called "human spontaneous combustion"?


Personally, I suspect that this poor man was electrocuted thru 

his own urine.  The "ball lightning" witnessed by the victim's 

wife may have been ST. ELMO's FIRE -- an ungrounded corona 

around the victim in the damp, pre-thunderstorm conditions. The 

hole in his heel and tennis shoe indicates where the current 

finally grounded itself.


One of my uncles saw this happen to a young man in Eastern 

Canada (PEI) in the early 1960s.  The area was just being 

electrified and the power lines must have been practically 

smoking (in fact, there were near-catastrophic forest fires that 

could have been cause by the things, now that I remember that 

summer).  Anyway, the victim had been working with several other 

men in a field -- when they finished, they washed up at a 

washbasin on an outdoor table, about 100 yards from the overhead 

power line(s) beside the road.  When the poor guy had washed up, 

he emptied the basin on the ground and was electrocuted.  As in 

the Hungarian case, a hole was burned through the heel of his 

boot.  He lived for about 15 minutes, then died.


So Sheldon, the next time you drive past a pasture where the 

cattle are all wearing those silly rubber boots -- don't stop to 

relieve yourself.


Best,

  Clark



PS -- Weird as all this is, genuine SHC is much, much weirder. 

The Mary Reeser case is so bizarre as to be beyond belief.  She 

was INCINERATED in a chair, and so was a perfect circle of the 

floor that the chair was on.  Coroner estimated temps of 3000 degrees 

plus.  Almost NO OTHER DAMAGE to the room or the house, and 

there was NO FIRE.


I have a couple of text files on this:  SHC1.ZIP and SHC2.ZIP, 

from KeelyNet



--  

Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422

UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)

Subject: BENTWATERS,UK

Date: 24 Oct 91 11:19:00 GMT



 > The Cash/Landrum incident update was very interesting,

 > since the two of them had physical reactions to something.


You bet.  They're not the only ones, either.  Vallee in 

Confrontations goes into considerable detail about UFO "sunburn". 

The Brazilian cases he described were so bizarre, however, that 

nuclear radiation alone does not seem to account for some of 

them.


One horrible case resembled high-speed leprosy -- the victim 

literally disintegrated within two days.  It was painless but he 

was conscious until very close to his death.


Yeccchhh...  <shiver>


Clark



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UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)

Subject: Dr. Fredrick Bell

Date: 24 Oct 91 11:24:00 GMT



 > Thanks for that info. I am curious...do you know what is a

 > smallest mass required to support self-sustaining fusion.

 > Supposing there was a planet large enough to support self-

 > sustaining fusion, how would that fusion start? 


Good question, and I don't know.  I do know that Jupiter is so 

massive that its core should be hypothetically composed of solid 

hydrogen -- a form of H2 that we cannot synthesize here on earth. 

Perhaps there is a "critical mass" of solid H2 needed to get a 

star going??


I don't know, though.  Maybe someone else here?  (Jim Graham???)


Best,

  Clark



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UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)

Subject: Re: FOX Show

Date: 23 Oct 91 05:19:00 GMT


In a message to All <10-18-91 21:18> Jim Speiser wrote:


JS>  Well, that sure stunk.

 I agree. It's sad, isn't it?



JS>  Disinformation Suspect #1. Didn't anyone tell them there IS no

JS>  Department of Naval Intelligence? Vicki and Don, did these guys come


Well, okay. But there is an NIS: Naval Investigative Service. Doesn't prove 

a thing, just wondered if some names had gotten mixed up. I know there's an 

NIS cause they got me once--a long, long time ago (in a galaxy far away)

--Michael  

 

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UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)

Subject: Re: Erol Torun/DMA

Date: 23 Oct 91 05:25:00 GMT


In a message to Clark Matthews <10-14-91 13:27> Steve Rose wrote:

SR>

SR>  Or just look at the particulars of those ramrodded 'Anti-Crime' bills

SR>  which will make your 'liberties' looked like Germany of the '30s. :(

SR>

SR>

SR>  ...Why blame Spooks?  They just follow orders.

SR>

Isn't that what Adolph Eichmann said?  

 

--  

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UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)

Subject: Re: Hello!

Date: 23 Oct 91 05:28:00 GMT


In a message to All <10-21-91 23:55> Jim Dritsas wrote:


JD>  Hello there everyone!  I am a new user here, and I would just like to

JD>  introduce myself!  I am calling a little north of the border, from

JD>  Toronto, Ontario (CANADA).  Anyways, I'm glad to be a member, it

JD>  looks like a spectacular system.


Happy to have you. I wonder if you have any thoughts about our subject from 

a Canadian perspective? Is there any twist on UFOs or particularly 

compelling sighting reports you might know about that we might not get quite 

as easily 'down here?'  

 

--  

Michael Schuyler - via FidoNet node 1:104/422

UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)

Subject: Re: ParaNet 9600 bps

Date: 23 Oct 91 05:29:00 GMT


In a message to All <10-22-91 20:57> Sheldon Wernikoff wrote:


SW>

SW>  Are there any ParaNet nodes running

SW>  @ 9600 bps v.32, v.42, v.42bis?


You bet. HST/Dual here. I'm sure there are several others  

 

--  

Michael Schuyler - via FidoNet node 1:104/422

UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms

Subject: Roswell

Date: 25 Oct 91 07:41:56 GMT


From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)


To: Steve Musselwhite


+I am new to Paranet, but I have found nothing in this section about

+Roswell, the most dramatic example of what is happening and the most

+dramatic example of the government (almost) screwing up.  What am I

+missing?


We can't discuss all of the subjects all of the time.  Have you seen Randle

& Schmidt's book yet?  I had to order it through the mail because I never

saw any copies at the local Waldenbooks.  Silly me, I thought that book

might get the public's attention and shake out some of the apathy, but it's

not going to get their attention if they don't know it exists!


--

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 Jim Shaffer, Jr.     | uunet!cbmvax!vanth!jms        | -- or is it a rut?

 37 Brook Street      | jms%vanth@cbmvax.commodore.com |

 Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com      | (Rush, 'Face Up')





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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms

Subject: UFO shows

Date: 25 Oct 91 07:42:10 GMT


From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)


Sheldon Wernikoff writes:


+NEW TELEVISED UFO ABDUCTION ACCOUNT

+___________________________________

+

+BROADCAST DATE: Friday, 27-Oct-91

+BROADCAST TIME: 9:00 P.M. (EST)

+NETWORK: USA (cable)

+PROGRAM TITLE: 'Beyond Reality'

+STARRING: Shari Belafonte

+

+DETAILS: 'Ten years ago, Jenny Lambert's

+mother was abducted by a UFO.

+Now, they're back.'

+

+COMMENTS: Don't expect too much, folks


You mean this 'Beyond Reality' thing (what a stupid title!) is a series?  I

saw an episode on psychic healing or some such thing (I taped it, but

haven't watched it yet) advertised for last Friday, but I didn't know it

was going to be a series.  Does anyone know what else they have in store

for us?


--

 *  From the disk of: | NEW CONNECTION:         | I'm in a groove now

 Jim Shaffer, Jr.     | uunet!cbmvax!vanth!jms        | -- or is it a rut?

 37 Brook Street      | jms%vanth@cbmvax.commodore.com |

 Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com      | (Rush, 'Face Up')





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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms

Subject: crop circles and SHC

Date: 25 Oct 91 07:42:25 GMT


From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)


Robert Trevelyan writes:


+Does any one have any information on human spontaneous combustion?

+I have just heard the UK BUFORA message number 98 in which Jenny Randles

+likens the the energy of such strange events to the energy which is

+associated with the creation of crop circles. She even asked if anyone

+has any information on spontaneous combustion to contact BUFORA.

+I am very interested in this as Jenny Randles has always seemed to have

+been in the plasma vortex camp, is this a change of heart.


Jerry Decker at KeelyNet says that there are some theories that nuclear

reactions take place within cells.  His own thinking on SHC is that it

might be caused by these nuclear reactions going out of control due to an

imbalance in body chemistry.


There's also the Allende story about SHC caused by interference with the

body's electromagnetic (or ???) field by an external field.  (If Allende

didn't make the whole thing up like he once said he did.)


I'm puzzled as to what this has to do with crop circles, though.  Certainly

there seems to be heat involved, but there's already the plasma vortex

theory and even the orbital maser testing theory that could explain that.

There is the odd matter of the radioisotopes described in Sheldon's recent

message, however.  I'll have to ask Jerry if he can dig up any details on

the 'biological transmutation' (as it's called) theories.  (Then there's

the question of what, other than hoaxes, produces such fancy patterns.

Have any of the fancy patterns been proven to be anything other than

hoaxes?  If they have, it looks like we're stuck with either the alien

intelligence theory or the maser testing.)


A final note on plants and mysterious energy:  I'm pretty sure I read

somewhere that Wilhelm Reich's orgone accumulator design was inspired by

the cell walls of plants.  The orgone accumulator boxes would always be

warmer on the inside than on the outside for no apparent reason.  If plant

cells, like the orgone boxes, are transducers for some sort of energy

field, what would happen if they were exposed to a much higher than normal

level of that energy?  (I'm not going to pretend to have any ideas on what

would cause such a field!)


--

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 Jim Shaffer, Jr.     | uunet!cbmvax!vanth!jms        | -- or is it a rut?

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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms

Subject: nodes

Date: 25 Oct 91 07:42:47 GMT


From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)


Jim Dritsas writes:


+Hello there everyone! I am a new user here, and I would just like to

+introduce myself!  I am calling a little north of the border, from Toronto,

+Ontario (CANADA).  Anyways, I'm glad to be a member, it looks like a

+spectacular system.

+

+  Well, now the only thing that would be nice was if I lived in Colarado, so

+I didn't have to pay any long distance charges!


There ought to be a node closer to you than Colorado.  (Although there

don't seem to be any Canadian nodes.)  Here's the last list I found, I hope

it's fairly recent.


    LIST OF PARANET INTERNATIONAL NODES

      ==============================================


  ParaNet Information Service

  Headquarters

  Michael Corbin, Administrator

  P.O. Box 928

  Wheatridge, Colorado 80034-0928

  FidoNet Address: 1:310/8

  ParaNet Private Address:  9:9/0

  =========================================================

  Don Ecker, Network Security 30163/0

  Bob Fletcher, Bureau Chief/Australian Bureau 30163/401

  Doug Rogers, Echo Moderator 30163/3

  Paul Faeder, Network Development/Coordinator 30163/203

  John Burke, ParaNet Legal Counsel 9:9/800

  =========================================================

  Please direct all inquiries to Alpha at 1:310/8 or 9:9/0


  AUSTRALIA

  ---------

  Board      Location    Sysop       Data Phone    Baud

  FIDO Add   ParaNet Address   CIS ID      Remarks

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  OMEGA-ALPHA Kingsbury Vic , Australia 011-61-3-467-7984  9600

  30163/401   Bob Fletcher  Bureau Chief

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  OMEGA-BETA  Mentone, Victoria, Australia 011-61-3-583-4778  2400

  30163/402    John Marsden

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  OMEGA-GAMMA Launceston, Tasmania, Australia 011-61-3-44-9762   2400

  30163/403    Roy Austen

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  OMEGA-DELTA Chippendale, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

  30163/404    Lance Lyon 011-61-2-319-1793  2400

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  OMEGA-EPSILON   Milton, Victoria        **Temporarily Out of Service**

  30163/405    Darren Moore

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  OMEGA-ZETA  Melba, A.C.T., Australia 011-61-62-587-160  2400

  30163/406    Scott Furry

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  OMEGA-THETA  Dalkeith, Western Australia 011-61-9-386-2405   2400

  30163/408    Andrew Milner

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  OMEGA-ETA  Lane Cove, New South Wales 011-002-428-2446    2400

  30163/407    Grame Thompson

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  OMEGA-IOTA  Kendall, New South Wales 011-065-59-4537     9600

  30163/409    John Caine

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  OMEGA-KAPPA  Blacktown, New South Wales 011-61-2-622-9591   2400

  30163/410    Robert Jones

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  OMEGA-LAMBDA  Redfern, New South Wales 011-61-2-319-0925   2400

  30163/411    Jodi Jackson

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  OMEGA-MU  Footscray, Victoria   **Private System**

  30163/412    Ken Hayes

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  OMEGA-NU  Ferntree, Gully, Australia 011-61-3-758-9573   2400

  30163/413   Lincoln Broomhall

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  UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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  Board      Location    Sysop       Data Phone    Baud

  FIDO Add   ParaNet Address   CIS ID      Remarks

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ALPHA      Cheyenne, WY Michael Corbin      307-632-0352  9600

  30163/0   Headquarters Node

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  ALPHA-BETA Cedar Rapids, IA Peter Elliff      319-377-0134  9600

  30163/14   Open Cluster

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ALPHA-CENTAURI San Francisco, CA Rick Moen      415-648-8944  2400

  30163/25    The Skeptic's Board

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ALPHA-GAMMA  Bloomington , IN  Jim Graham      812-334-0418  2400

     Portal Dolmen BBS       **Local System**

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ALPHA-DELTA Los Angeles, CA  Don Ecker       **Private System**

  30163/22

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ALPHA-EPSILON  Alexandria, VA  Steve Rose      703-823-6591  2400

  30163/26       ABySS BBS

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  ALPHA-ZETA  Sacramento, CA  Boyd Naron      916-427-0324  9600

        The City Lights

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  ALPHA-MU  Sacramento, CA  Dan Brown      916-446-7286  2400

        Gates of Delirium

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  ALPHA-THETA


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  ALPHA-ETA


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  ALPHA-IOTA


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  ALPHA-KAPPA  Pittsburgh, PA  Chuck Ammon      412-264-2692  9600


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  ALPHA-LAMBDA


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  ALPHA-MU  El Cajon  , CA  Don Orchard      619-440-6038  2400


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ALPHA-NU  Gilbert   , AZ  Frank Ward      602-892-1853  2400

     The Encounter BBS

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  BETA      ,


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  GAMMA      Lexington    , KY Doug Rogers      606-271-0558  2400

  30163/3

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  DELTA      Saskatoon    , Saskatchewan      306-934-2919  9600

  30163/4       Canada  John Bowden

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  DELTA-ALPHA


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  EPSILON    Warren    , MI Jacques Leclerc      313-751-4057  2400

  30163/5

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  ZETA      Bethany Park  , IN   Terry Fields      317-831-1827  2400

  30163/6

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  KAPPA


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  LAMBDA


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  MU


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  NU-ALPHA


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  NU-BETA


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  NU-GAMMA   Cape Coral    , FL  Bill Stewart       **Out of Service*

        Nite Connections

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  NU-DELTA   Orlando    , FL  John Hicks       407-649-4136 9600

  30163/29       Gourmet Delight

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  NU-EPSILON Altamonte Spgs, FL  Gale Thompson       407-628-2018 2400

  30163/35       The Business

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  XI-ALPHA   Milwaukee    , WI  Pete Porro        414-352-6176 9600

  30163/206       Radio Free Milwaukee

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  XI-BETA    San Leandro   , CA  Cheryl Mathison       415-481-2806 2400

     Yellow Submarine

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  XI-GAMMA   Luther   , OK  Rod Wilson        405-277-3603 2400

  30163/204    Paraclypse III

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  OMICRON     Bushkill    , PA  Paul Faeder        717-588-7549 9600

  30163/203

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  PI       Jersey City  , NJ  Clark Matthews        201-451-3063 2400


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  RHO       Chicago    , IL   Jerry Ablan        312-876-3652 1200

  30163/13

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  RHO-BETA    Ingleside    , IL   Jerry Callahan       312-740-2072 9600

  30163/23

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  TAU


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  TAU-BETA    Columbia    , MO   Brian Clark        314-442-0779 2400

      Thrift University BBS

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  TAU-GAMMA   Chattanooga  , TN   John I. Finney       615-265-2629 9600

  30163/34     The Old Folks Home

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  TAU-CETI    Chicago    , IL   John Burke        **PRIVATE SYSTEM**

      ParaNet Legal Counsel

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  TAU-DELTA


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  TAU-EPSILON


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  UPSILON


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  PHI


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  CHI      Nashua    , NH   Ralph Schwarz        603-888-3840 9600

  30163/2     The Outpost BBS

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  CHI-BETA   Burlington    , VT   James Pallack        802-860-1875 9600

  30163/37     We Serve Your Drives

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  PSI


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  ZETA-RETICULI  Phoenix   , AZ   Jim Speiser        602-951-3431 9600

  30163/20     USOP BBS

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  EUROPE

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  Board      Location    Sysop       Data Phone    Baud

  FIDO Add   ParaNet Address   CIS ID      Remarks

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  THETA


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  IOTA


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  GERMANY

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  Board      Location     Sysop       Data Phone    Baud

  FIDO Add   ParaNet Address    CIS ID       Remarks

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  SIGMA-ALPHA  Berlin    , Germany Andre' Eichner  011-49-30-791-9269

  30163/303          9600

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  SIGMA-BETA   Darmstadt   , Germany Hendrik Bohm    011-49-6257-7966

  30163/304           2400

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  SIGMA-GAMMA  Berlin    , Germany Detlef Deutzer  011-30-624-98-32

  30163/305           2400

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  SIGMA-DELTA  Hannover    , Germany Ernst Elbe      011-49-511-392274

            9600

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)

Subject: Spon. Human Combustion

Date: 26 Oct 91 04:21:00 GMT



 Hello Clark,

 

 Thanks for your reply and comments on the Hungarian ball lightning

 case. I certainly agree with your hypothesis that "leaky" 

 power lines could have been the culprit in this situation, IF they

 were present. I'll check that aspect out with the author in England

 and get back to you.

 

 The reason I brought this case up is that one of the main theories

 advanced in the past, although without adequate proof, has been that

 ball lightning somehow intruded into the room of the SHC victim.

 

 For further information, this case was investigated by ball-lightning

 expert Dr. George Egely of the Central Institute of Physics, Budapest

 and was reported at the Second Ball Lightning Conference held in 

 Budapest in June 1990.

 

 Amazingly, there are still many physicists who insist that ball

 lightning can not exist, despite many eye-witness reports, and a

 few photographs.

 

 Like you said Clark, for safety's sake, when outdoors in inclement weather,

 be sure to urinate _only_ into a well insulated, properly grounded receptacle.

 

 Take care,

 

 Sheldon

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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)

Subject: Re: Paranet 9600 Bps

Date: 26 Oct 91 04:22:00 GMT



 Hi Mike,

 

 Thanks for letting me know that you're running 9600 v.32 up there.

 

 Actually, you are the only node I know of so far that's dual.

 Mind if I check in to capture the message base? These LD charges

 are killing me at 2400.

 

 BTW, can you tell me anything about Aileen Edwards-Bringle and her

 contactee group? Any thoughts/comments would be greatly a

 appreciated.

 

 Thanks much,

 

 Sheldon

 

--  

Sheldon Wernikoff - via FidoNet node 1:104/422

UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)

Subject: Re: Paranet 9600 Bps

Date: 26 Oct 91 05:46:00 GMT


In a message to Michael Schuyler <10-25-91 21:22> Sheldon Wernikoff wrote:

SW>   Actually, you are the only node I know of so far that's dual.

SW>   Mind if I check in to capture the message base? These LD charges

SW>   are killing me at 2400.


Sure, you're welcome to call. Justget on and off the first time so I can 

upgrade you quickly. I'll do it right away, but that way you can establish 

your pw. I don't have an offline mail reader yet, so it's klutzy!


SW>

SW>   BTW, can you tell me anything about Aileen Edwards-Bringle and her

SW>   contactee group? Any thoughts/comments would be greatly a

SW>   appreciated.


I talked to Aileen a few weeks ago and subscribed to her Journal. Let's see 

if I can describe the group succinctly....Definitely contactee and New Age, 

with a belief in channeled material. The Journal is called "The Missing 

Link" and is largely full of reprints, mostly sort-of UFO-related, but 

rarely with attribution. I'm sure some of this thing violates copyright, 

Physically it looks pretty bad with many typefaces and poor reproduction.

Here's a list of articles in a recent issue:


"Essassani; the Living Light Center," by Aileen, about Bashar, the channeled 

entity, who is telling the group to establish Cities of Light across the 

country.

"Express the Essence" a poem  about light.

"UFO's, Et's and you," by Tom Dongo, about Bigfoot

"Possible Relation Review," by Darush Bagheri, about parallels in the Koran 

which might be UFO sightings,

"Two Men in a Little Green Suit" about Bob Dean, a UFO enthusiast who was 

denied a promotion in an EMT facility and is now suing (newspaper reprint)

"Roswell Alien Photo or Just another Hoax?" Focus reprint.

"I met and Flew with UFO Aliens," about Billy Meier, a newspaper reprint

"The Abduction of Sammy Desmond," by D. Scot Rogo, reprint from CUFOS from 

1987.

"UFO and AAD," by Oleg Moroz, account of USSR Air Defense Forces encounters 

with UFOs. Looks like a repirint.

"Without a Name," by Bob Anthony, on how not having names is a good idea.


Look, I know I haven't done this justice cause it's a quick note, but I hope 

you can get a feel for the publication, and therefore the organization from 

this short sketch. Please permit me to congratulate myself for the 

incredible restraint I have exhibited with this post. ;-)

--Michael  

 

--  

Michael Schuyler - via FidoNet node 1:104/422

UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name

INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG




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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)

Subject: Angel

Date: 25 Oct 91 03:46:00 GMT


An associate asked me the other day to see if anyone can chase a 

reference in the bible for him. He was reading Strieber's 

"Transformation" page 109 about a memory of someone dropping "three 

drops of a clear liquid..onto my tounge." My associate has a 

recollection of there being a biblical reference to an "angel of 

revelation" "shall touch the elected three times on the forehead." Can 

anyone help with the source of this biblical reference (if it is in 

fact from the bible.)?


--  

Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422

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INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG




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