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MJ12EURO.TXT - "MJ-12 - THE EUROPEAN CONNECTIONS"
- by Henry Azadehdel, Ph.D. 'Yerevan' 24 Prestwood Dr.
Aspley Park, Nottingham
NG8 3LY, ENGLAND
Telephone: 0602-292187
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NOTE: Spelling errors below have not been corrected. The file you
see is how I have received it.
- Tom Mickus 11/2/89
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MJ-12 - THE EUROPEAN CONNECTIONS
----------------------------------
Initially the MJ12 papers were sent to Mr. Shandera in an envelope,
post marked Albuquerquee, as undeveloped 35mm film. Later on Moore
published them. Their publication caused a great deal of surprise
mixed with doubts and anxiety in UFO circles worldwide. Some admitted
them without any questions to be authentic, some did not. There was
some preliminary work done with regards to their authenticity and the
saga still continues today. What is important in this event is that
Mr. Moore's ex-colleague or colleague, Stanton Friedman is commissioned
to carry out further research on these documents. The funds are provided
to him by the Fund For UFO Research and MUFON, so I am told. The role
of the funding organizations in itself is raising some questions. One
might ask why? For example, at the time when Moore was busy discrediting
Paul Bennewitz for obvious reasons, Bruce Maccabee was following similar
track, suggesting indirectly, thru his own so called independent inquiry,
more or less what Moore was implying. This is quite obvious in Maccabee's
correspondence with MacCampell. (Some copies of these correspondence are
in my possession).
Bill Cooper and few others had openly expressed their suspicion about
Mr. Moore's conducts. Cooper's invitation from the last MUFON symposium
was withdrawn and Moore allowed in. I would be surprised if anything but
a smoke screen would come out from this so called investigation into the
authenticity and origin of MJ12 papers from this current research. This
is yet another close-shop approach by two American UFO groups who work
very closely with each other and hardly ever allow any other even volunteer
organization to participate in their operations. This I can say with
absolute certainty and reason. At the time when the Gulf Breeze case
surfaced and again these two organizations were involved to the degree of
monopolization of the case, CUFOS's effort was responded with utmost
venom. My own inquiry at that time as one of their own consultants
(MUFON) to have some of these photographs analysed was severely rejected
by Walt Andrus. And even today I am not aware of anybody else who
managed to study those Gulf Breeze photographs but Bruce Maccabee from
FUFOR, who was recently awarded I think 5000 US Dollars by MUFON. I
might be carrying some poison in my pen but please do not forget what
is mentioned here is actually happened and is not a hypothecy. It is
like foxes mediating the wolf for devouring the lamb.
But, even more important is the European connection of this entire
bizarre affair. What I am about to say is what I am told in person by
the person concerned, and the confirmation is also documented on video
tape in another occasion in relation to this topic. Mr. Tim Good has
said to me personally and in a recent UFO conference, held by the
Yorkshire UFO Society in September this year (1989), where he was a guest
speaker that, he received his MJ12 papers from a CIA source independently
in US. He went on saying that he is pleased to say that he was the first
person to publish them. When I questioned him personally in another
occasion prior to this conference few months ago, he said that his source
is still an active CIA member, middle aged. Was he referring to Mr. Moore
then? Did he know THEN, that Mr. Moore is an active agent and yet despite
all his claims to reveal the COVER UPS he was actually covering him up?
If this is the case why, what interest does he have in all this? Or, he
was talking to me about yet another CIA agent? At some stage prior to
publishing his MJ12 papers in his book 'Above Top Secret', Mr. Good
travelled to USA to see Moore and compare his documents of MJ12 with
Moore's. Yet, what is more intriguing is that Good's published papers,
whilst taking into consideration his claim to be the first to publish,
and Moore's are the same. Moore apparently admitted to have tampered
the MJ12 documents for reasons unknown. The next question is, what is
Mr. Good's role in all this?
When I put this question to Mr. Good, he replied that, Moore published
his papers initially as I did, later on he decided to make some alterations.
(Private conversation, the author and Mr. Good, Sep.23, 1989). This I
can not accept because once a so called document/s published, the latter
altered or shortened version could easily be spotted and compared with the
initial publication. There are two important points which would underline
my reasoning. One, we should not forget that Mr. Good's 'Above Top Secret'
book had a world wide distribution, hence if there were any differences
with Moore's version, both parties would have been subjected to inquiries
about their anomalies. Two, only recently Moore admitted tampering the
documents, and before that no one had noticed any differences. If Mr.
Good was aware of this tampering, as a conscincious researcher, why he
never mentioned anything about it to UFO community to safeguard the public's
interest? Or, was it that he was influenced by Mr. Moore in his facts
finding trip? Or, was it a joint decision by both parties to publish
the documents as they were published in Mr. Good's book and by Mr. Moore,
after, may be they both tampered the papers?
In a written letter to me by CIA, dated 07 MAR 1989, in connection to
my inquiry about MJ12, they say "CIA review of a 'Majestic 12', Majic 12'
or MJ 12 - there are variations among the requesters, package has been
requested by a number of persons worldwide. Only one part of that
package as submitted to us was purported to be a CIA document; it was a
poorly done photocopied fabrication. We cannot identify any CIA equities
in any of the other material, and it is not our function to determine
who does have equities therein" it goes on saying "Unfortunately, as you
may know, there have been numerous hoaxes perpetrated over the years in
the field of UFO investigation; photocopiers and carbon copies make this
process relatively simple."
Bearing CIA's reply in mind, if Mr. Good claims that his papers were sent
to him by an active CIA agent, then I think, his so called agent has some
answering to make, and it is a bad time to divert part of this inquiry
towards Mr. Good. Surely, if he knows his source, as he has admitted to
me, he should be able to get some questions answered with regards to the
validity or invalidity of these documents and save the ufologists part of
this sixteen thousand dollars. And if he does not trust his source, again
he should be able to help the line of the inquiry by adding that point
that, these documents might have been fakes and dis-information. Although,
this would be rather difficult for him now, but still it is not too late.
He should have had this assurity from his source before the publication,
and somehow I think he received that from Mr. Moore. But, of course we
now know who Moore was and is. Other important point is that if Mr. Good's
source has provided him with disinformation, which in return Mr. Good has
passed on to ufologists, by the same agent? This we do not know. Assuming
that Mr. Good's source IS reliable, again Mr. Good would be the best person
to go to in order to find out the 'ORIGINAL SOURCE' of the MJ12 documents,
in seeking his assistance, that I am sure he should be glad to offer.
How? In the same quiet way that his source provided him with this documents,
this agent should be able to give him the supporting evidence. There are
various options and methods open to the ufologists to further this
investigations.
Of course, all these options are dependent on the assumption that Mr. Good
has told us the truth. But, if what he has said in some stage is proven
to be not the truth, then the honest ufologists are faced yet with another
'Unofficial' MAJESTIC 12 group in their own community which upon their
will and well established stance in UFO circles, give us any time they wish
bunch of gubbly googs and expect us to swallow. I am not putting any
comments about Mr. Good's close ties and links with the elite, official/
unofficial information-emitting circles here. Neither I am passing any
judgement about the comments he has made couple of times to one of his
close UFO colleagues that 'If I put infront of you solid, concrete evidence
to prove to you that UFOs do constitute a serious threat to the national
security of U.K., what would you do?' and his fellow colleague's answer
that "I would publish it", and Mr. Good's final comment 'Therefore, I can
not give you that evidence!' In other words this/these possible evidence
is for 'The Eyes Only'. (Bearing in mind that the official stance of
Ministry of Defence in U.K. is that UFOs DO NOT constitute any threat to
the national security). How has Mr. Good come upon this evidence that
so many in UK as yet have failed, is a mystery.
I am beginning to believe that for sometimes now the UFO community has been
taken for a ride by a bunch of self acclaimed giants of ufology. Some of
these inturn are infilterated by official agencies, some others act as
double agents. I firmly believe that Moore is not the last and we might
see few more heads to roll. Although, I do hope I am wrong.
Henry Azadehdel.
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MJ12EURO.TXT - "MJ-12 - THE EUROPEAN CONNECTIONS"
- by Henry Azadehdel, Ph.D. 'Yerevan' 24 Prestwood Dr.
Aspley Park, Nottingham
NG8 3LY, ENGLAND
Telephone: 0602-292187
======================================================================
NOTE: Spelling errors below have not been corrected. The file you
see is how I have received it.
- Tom Mickus 11/2/89
======================================================================
MJ-12 - THE EUROPEAN CONNECTIONS
----------------------------------
Initially the MJ12 papers were sent to Mr. Shandera in an envelope,
post marked Albuquerquee, as undeveloped 35mm film. Later on Moore
published them. Their publication caused a great deal of surprise
mixed with doubts and anxiety in UFO circles worldwide. Some admitted
them without any questions to be authentic, some did not. There was
some preliminary work done with regards to their authenticity and the
saga still continues today. What is important in this event is that
Mr. Moore's ex-colleague or colleague, Stanton Friedman is commissioned
to carry out further research on these documents. The funds are provided
to him by the Fund For UFO Research and MUFON, so I am told. The role
of the funding organizations in itself is raising some questions. One
might ask why? For example, at the time when Moore was busy discrediting
Paul Bennewitz for obvious reasons, Bruce Maccabee was following similar
track, suggesting indirectly, thru his own so called independent inquiry,
more or less what Moore was implying. This is quite obvious in Maccabee's
correspondence with MacCampell. (Some copies of these correspondence are
in my possession).
Bill Cooper and few others had openly expressed their suspicion about
Mr. Moore's conducts. Cooper's invitation from the last MUFON symposium
was withdrawn and Moore allowed in. I would be surprised if anything but
a smoke screen would come out from this so called investigation into the
authenticity and origin of MJ12 papers from this current research. This
is yet another close-shop approach by two American UFO groups who work
very closely with each other and hardly ever allow any other even volunteer
organization to participate in their operations. This I can say with
absolute certainty and reason. At the time when the Gulf Breeze case
surfaced and again these two organizations were involved to the degree of
monopolization of the case, CUFOS's effort was responded with utmost
venom. My own inquiry at that time as one of their own consultants
(MUFON) to have some of these photographs analysed was severely rejected
by Walt Andrus. And even today I am not aware of anybody else who
managed to study those Gulf Breeze photographs but Bruce Maccabee from
FUFOR, who was recently awarded I think 5000 US Dollars by MUFON. I
might be carrying some poison in my pen but please do not forget what
is mentioned here is actually happened and is not a hypothecy. It is
like foxes mediating the wolf for devouring the lamb.
But, even more important is the European connection of this entire
bizarre affair. What I am about to say is what I am told in person by
the person concerned, and the confirmation is also documented on video
tape in another occasion in relation to this topic. Mr. Tim Good has
said to me personally and in a recent UFO conference, held by the
Yorkshire UFO Society in September this year (1989), where he was a guest
speaker that, he received his MJ12 papers from a CIA source independently
in US. He went on saying that he is pleased to say that he was the first
person to publish them. When I questioned him personally in another
occasion prior to this conference few months ago, he said that his source
is still an active CIA member, middle aged. Was he referring to Mr. Moore
then? Did he know THEN, that Mr. Moore is an active agent and yet despite
all his claims to reveal the COVER UPS he was actually covering him up?
If this is the case why, what interest does he have in all this? Or, he
was talking to me about yet another CIA agent? At some stage prior to
publishing his MJ12 papers in his book 'Above Top Secret', Mr. Good
travelled to USA to see Moore and compare his documents of MJ12 with
Moore's. Yet, what is more intriguing is that Good's published papers,
whilst taking into consideration his claim to be the first to publish,
and Moore's are the same. Moore apparently admitted to have tampered
the MJ12 documents for reasons unknown. The next question is, what is
Mr. Good's role in all this?
When I put this question to Mr. Good, he replied that, Moore published
his papers initially as I did, later on he decided to make some alterations.
(Private conversation, the author and Mr. Good, Sep.23, 1989). This I
can not accept because once a so called document/s published, the latter
altered or shortened version could easily be spotted and compared with the
initial publication. There are two important points which would underline
my reasoning. One, we should not forget that Mr. Good's 'Above Top Secret'
book had a world wide distribution, hence if there were any differences
with Moore's version, both parties would have been subjected to inquiries
about their anomalies. Two, only recently Moore admitted tampering the
documents, and before that no one had noticed any differences. If Mr.
Good was aware of this tampering, as a conscincious researcher, why he
never mentioned anything about it to UFO community to safeguard the public's
interest? Or, was it that he was influenced by Mr. Moore in his facts
finding trip? Or, was it a joint decision by both parties to publish
the documents as they were published in Mr. Good's book and by Mr. Moore,
after, may be they both tampered the papers?
In a written letter to me by CIA, dated 07 MAR 1989, in connection to
my inquiry about MJ12, they say "CIA review of a 'Majestic 12', Majic 12'
or MJ 12 - there are variations among the requesters, package has been
requested by a number of persons worldwide. Only one part of that
package as submitted to us was purported to be a CIA document; it was a
poorly done photocopied fabrication. We cannot identify any CIA equities
in any of the other material, and it is not our function to determine
who does have equities therein" it goes on saying "Unfortunately, as you
may know, there have been numerous hoaxes perpetrated over the years in
the field of UFO investigation; photocopiers and carbon copies make this
process relatively simple."
Bearing CIA's reply in mind, if Mr. Good claims that his papers were sent
to him by an active CIA agent, then I think, his so called agent has some
answering to make, and it is a bad time to divert part of this inquiry
towards Mr. Good. Surely, if he knows his source, as he has admitted to
me, he should be able to get some questions answered with regards to the
validity or invalidity of these documents and save the ufologists part of
this sixteen thousand dollars. And if he does not trust his source, again
he should be able to help the line of the inquiry by adding that point
that, these documents might have been fakes and dis-information. Although,
this would be rather difficult for him now, but still it is not too late.
He should have had this assurity from his source before the publication,
and somehow I think he received that from Mr. Moore. But, of course we
now know who Moore was and is. Other important point is that if Mr. Good's
source has provided him with disinformation, which in return Mr. Good has
passed on to ufologists, by the same agent? This we do not know. Assuming
that Mr. Good's source IS reliable, again Mr. Good would be the best person
to go to in order to find out the 'ORIGINAL SOURCE' of the MJ12 documents,
in seeking his assistance, that I am sure he should be glad to offer.
How? In the same quiet way that his source provided him with this documents,
this agent should be able to give him the supporting evidence. There are
various options and methods open to the ufologists to further this
investigations.
Of course, all these options are dependent on the assumption that Mr. Good
has told us the truth. But, if what he has said in some stage is proven
to be not the truth, then the honest ufologists are faced yet with another
'Unofficial' MAJESTIC 12 group in their own community which upon their
will and well established stance in UFO circles, give us any time they wish
bunch of gubbly googs and expect us to swallow. I am not putting any
comments about Mr. Good's close ties and links with the elite, official/
unofficial information-emitting circles here. Neither I am passing any
judgement about the comments he has made couple of times to one of his
close UFO colleagues that 'If I put infront of you solid, concrete evidence
to prove to you that UFOs do constitute a serious threat to the national
security of U.K., what would you do?' and his fellow colleague's answer
that "I would publish it", and Mr. Good's final comment 'Therefore, I can
not give you that evidence!' In other words this/these possible evidence
is for 'The Eyes Only'. (Bearing in mind that the official stance of
Ministry of Defence in U.K. is that UFOs DO NOT constitute any threat to
the national security). How has Mr. Good come upon this evidence that
so many in UK as yet have failed, is a mystery.
I am beginning to believe that for sometimes now the UFO community has been
taken for a ride by a bunch of self acclaimed giants of ufology. Some of
these inturn are infilterated by official agencies, some others act as
double agents. I firmly believe that Moore is not the last and we might
see few more heads to roll. Although, I do hope I am wrong.
Henry Azadehdel.
================================= EOF =======================================
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