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HOST WRTR Linda: WELCOME TO WRITING BASICS

HOST WRTR Linda: Tonight our topic will be The Hook.

HOST WRTR Linda: I think we all have an idea of what the hook should be

like, but sometimes

HOST WRTR Linda: we have a little difficulty achieving it.

HOST WRTR Linda: First, can we define the hook?  We are not in protocol so

go ahead and 

HOST WRTR Linda: type your answer to the screen. 

Ruth Sil: A grabber sentence

HOST WRTR Linda: Good one Ruth.

FHouser103: The unanswered question

AWeiss4338: One paragraph which hooks the reader

Prewat: generally in the beginning of a book or story or chapter

HOST WRTR Linda: Yes, it sets things up FH.

HOST WRTR Linda: AWeiss.  Yup, it needs to be an early paragraph.

HOST WRTR Linda: Prewat.  Yup, right up front.

HOST WRTR Linda: The hook will intrigue the reader and keep him reading.

HOST WRTR Linda: It will make the reader care about something or someone.

SeabornDan: Better be in first sentence or the book will be shelved.

HOST WRTR Linda: It might arouse the readers curiosity.

HOST WRTR Linda: Oh Seaborn.  You got the most important part!!!

Ruth Sil: It's to make the reader want to read more.

HOST WRTR Linda: Here are the key points in defining the hook.

AWeiss4338: Or even the title of the book could do that

HOST WRTR Linda: -It is something that will intrigue or catch the readers

attention.

HOST WRTR Linda: - It sets up a key incident in the plot or

HOST WRTR Linda: -It sets a mood or

HOST WRTR Linda: it sets expectations.

HOST WRTR Linda: -It should appear within the first paragraph AND preferably

HOST WRTR Linda: within the first three sentences.

HOST WRTR Linda: -It should not be gimicky.

HOST WRTR Linda: - It should not be a climax in and of itself.

HOST WRTR Linda: - You MUST live up to your hook, if you promise

HOST WRTR Linda: suspence, you better deliver suspence.

HOST WRTR Linda: Did I leave anything out of defining the hook?

HOST WRTR Linda: (probably, I mumble to myself a lot)

Prewat: Define gimicky.

Kathi Smith 116: I think the part about it shouldn't be gimmicky is crucial

PN Elrod 2: Linda--may I put in?  (I came in late)

HOST WRTR Linda: Gimicky (gimmicky)  hmmm

HOST WRTR Linda: Please do PN

HOST WRTR Linda: (while I think of a definition)

PN Elrod 2: Writer--pretend your editor is on a subway full of muggers--you

have to distract her with 

Prewat: or an example

PN Elrod 2: your hook

PN Elrod 2: many editors will be reading your stuff on the way home from

work!

IncrediLizzie: okay, quick question on a bet.  Who wrote "Grapes of Wrath"

HOST WRTR Linda: As a definition of gimmick, let me give you an example 

Jackatbrun: The editor's wound was geography.

PN Elrod 2: Henry Fonda <G>

Kathi Smith 116: John Steinbeck

HOST WRTR Linda: Have you ever seen a cliff hanger?

HOST WRTR Linda: Either TV or old movies

IncrediLizzie: thank you, I win

HOST WRTR Linda: where the hero gets himself into a situation

Kathi Smith 116: Dark Shadows

HOST WRTR Linda: where there is no easy out

SeabornDan: Sly Stallone was in Cliff Hanger

PN Elrod 2: Sam Hall

AWeiss4338: Twilight Zone

Jackatbrun: Sea, and a good on 'twas.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (The Original Flash Gordon Series was famous for that.)

Jackatbrun: one

HOST WRTR Linda: and the solution turns out to be something stupid.  You

feel cheated.

HOST WRTR Linda: Yes SPKLD1

Prewat: deus ex machina

HOST WRTR Linda: I remember one where the hero went over a cliff

PN Elrod 2: Never write anything that you would hate to read.

HOST WRTR Linda: no out possible

HOST WRTR Linda: the followup suddenly had the hero

HOST WRTR Linda: being airlifted out of the falling car by a hook hung from

HOST WRTR Linda: a helicopter.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Wound have been better if he just bounced back to the

top.. :-)

HOST WRTR Linda: It defied belief and was plainly put in as

HOST WRTR Linda: a quick solution.

PN Elrod 2: ::no secret that the Dark Shadows cliff hangers still do it for

her! <G>::

HOST WRTR Linda: lolol

HOST WRTR Linda: ok, back to protocol while we move on.

PN Elrod 2: It doesn't hurt to end a chapter with a mild cliffhanger

HOST WRTR Linda: The hook can take many forms.

HOST WRTR Linda: It can be a setting.  This would set the mood. For instance

Jackatbrun: PN, that's a "tension" question. 

HOST WRTR Linda: (my favorite) what mood does "It was a dark and stormy

night" set up?

PN Elrod 2: Is that what those are called?  <Grin>

Jackatbrun: LOL

Host Wrtr RGugat: mystery

HOST WRTR Linda: (Yup PN.  I have no problems with a cliffhanger...just with

poor and transparent resolutions

PN Elrod 2: Linda--it's the 1st sentence to A Wrinkle in time"

HOST WRTR Linda: to the cliffhnger)

PN Elrod 2: Young adult Sci fi award winner

HOST WRTR Linda: RG, right you are.

HOST WRTR Linda: PN!!!

PN Elrod 2: ::ducks::

Jackatbrun: Could also be Frankenstein, horror.

HOST WRTR Linda: That hook was set within the first seven words.  

HOST WRTR Linda: Sure could, Jack.

HOST WRTR Linda: The hook can also be an idea.

Jackatbrun: Linda, the hook needs a good line, though--the following

sentence--which few remember.

HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, true.

HOST WRTR Linda: There is a contest

PN Elrod 2: Dick Francis writes the best hooks, ever.  I learned by reading

him.

HOST WRTR Linda: I think it's the Bullworth contest but I'm

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: ! Linda-- may I give PN the actual data of that line's

first appearance?

Jackatbrun: PN, grab one of his books; give us an example.

PN Elrod 2: Yes, the Bullwar/Lytton Worst 1st sentence contest.

HOST WRTR Linda: Please do SPKLD1

PN Elrod 2: Ok--looking-

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: It was the 19th century writer Edward George Earl

Bulwer-Lytton whose novel "Paul 

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Clifford" began with the immotal words, "It was a dark and

stormy night."

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: thans LM... floor is yours.

HOST WRTR Linda: But he didn't end his sentence there.

Kathi Smith 116: ...and went down into cliche history

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: true enough...

HOST WRTR Linda: The original went on and on and on totally ruining

PN Elrod 2: !st line of "Second Wind"--  Delirium brings comfort to the

dying.

HOST WRTR Linda: a great first line.

Jackatbrun: Linda, just as "It was the best of times, it was the worst of

times...."

Jackatbrun: A whole paragraph!

HOST WRTR Linda: Tremendous first.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (I've always loved that one Jack!)

Jackatbrun: Shakespeare's prolog to R & J was great.

PN Elrod 2: Looking for more Dick Francis...

Jackatbrun: A single paragraph, too.

HOST WRTR Linda: yup Jack.

HOST WRTR Linda: The good ones all do that in the first paragraph.

FHouser103: There was death at its beginning as there would be death at its

end

PN Elrod 2: "Gordon Michaels stood in the fountain with all his clothes on."

HOST WRTR Linda: Very good FH.

Host Wrtr RGugat: "Ladies, you are the last chance for the human race."

Kathi Smith 116: FH, that's a grabber

HOST WRTR Linda: PN, lol

HOST WRTR Linda: RG

HOST WRTR Linda: good ones all.

Jackatbrun: FH, where's that from?

FHouser103: The Horse Whisperer

Jackatbrun: Ah, yes.

FHouser103: Nicholas evans

HOST WRTR Linda: I think you have the idea of how to use an idea as a hook.

PN Elrod 2: "I looked at my friend and saw a man who had robbed me.  Deeply

disturbing, the ultimate in 

PN Elrod 2: rejections.

Jackatbrun: Jake, the last man on earth, had just sat down with a brew in

his hand, feet on the coffee 

Jackatbrun: table when there was a knock at the door.

PN Elrod 2: The thing with the fountain one is that it was deadly serious

HOST WRTR Linda: The next incarnation of the hook is sensation.  A stong

smell, a strong emotion, 

PN Elrod 2: an otherwise normal sober banker standing in a fountain freaks

people

HOST WRTR Linda: a physical feeling...all of these can propel the reader

immediately into

HOST WRTR Linda: the story.

AWeiss4338: Kind of obsucre but, This is not a letter.  I wrote you for the

last time to 

HOST WRTR Linda: Need or motive can also be a strong hook.

AWeiss4338: offer the little understanding I had, to say good-bye.

HOST WRTR Linda: AW, ga

AWeiss4338: Jane Rule, This Is Not For You

HOST WRTR Linda: ah

HOST WRTR Linda: For sensation, how does this sound? "The smell of burning

flesh made Richard gag."

PN Elrod 2: Lutz Mesner walked into my office, opened a briefcase and showed

me what half a million

PN Elrod 2: dollars looked like

HOST WRTR Linda: PN, that would get my attention.  lol

AWeiss4338: Me too

PN Elrod 2: Great!! It's one of mine! LOL

Jackatbrun: Linda, that comes close to gimicky for me. But it follows the

rule: get blood on the floor.

HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, I agree but it does point out the "rule"

PN Elrod 2: I'll use it now--just have to write a novel to hook onto it!

HOST WRTR Linda: lolol PN

HOST WRTR Linda: Need or motive introduces us to 

HOST WRTR Linda: the characters aims.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: The young man sitting at 2' N and 75' W sent a casually

venomous glance up at the

HOST WRTR Linda: Sometimes need is the most pressing

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: nonfunctional shoofly ventilador and went on reading his

letter.

PN Elrod 2: Only 99,981 more words to go.....

HOST WRTR Linda: sometimes motive will be more enticing.  If I need a

million dollars

HOST WRTR Linda: that alone doesn't say much

HOST WRTR Linda: but if I need it to "save something or someone"

Jackatbrun: Linda, then there are those calm, but brilliant beginnings that

paint the picture

HOST WRTR Linda: it becomes more interesting.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: He was sweating  heavily, stripped to his shorts in the

hotbox of what pased for a

Jackatbrun: of a hero's home, the "old world" he must leave before his

journey begins.

HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, what did you have in mind?

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: hotel room in Cuyapan.

HOST WRTR Linda: Nice SPKLD1

HOST WRTR Linda: clear picture.

Jackatbrun: The beginning of Frazier's Cold Mountain describes the "first

gesture of morning" as 

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (Trying to type and keep watch on the screen at the same

time has never been my forte'.)

PN Elrod 2: Has to be an exceptional writer to grab me with a calm

beginning.

Jackatbrun: something to do with flies on a wound or something.

PN Elrod 2: I tried a calm beginnin once--it got me 2 years of rejection

letters

HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, I've seen a few calm beginnings that do work very

well.

AWeiss4338: !

PN Elrod 2: when I opened with hero getting hit by a care the feed back

improved greatly.

HOST WRTR Linda: Underlying them there does seem to be some type of hook.

It may

PN Elrod 2: car*

HOST WRTR Linda: not be readily apparent but it is there.

HOST WRTR Linda: lol PN

HOST WRTR Linda: I think Jack has a very valid point though,

AWeiss4338: I've got on from a non fiction book but it's a hook

HOST WRTR Linda: your "hook" cannot be overdone

HOST WRTR Linda: it has to be believable as something that would really

happen

PN Elrod 2: it can be overworked.  That will show to the perceptive.

AWeiss4338: Perfect for what I've got

PN Elrod 2: I know when I'm being manipulated.  I put that writer back on

the rack.

HOST WRTR Linda: and it has to be credible.

HOST WRTR Linda: Exactly PN

PN Elrod 2: This is unfortunately rampant.

HOST WRTR Linda: The hook can also be action.  I'm not overly fond of that

type of

HOST WRTR Linda: beginning but it can be used effectively.

HOST WRTR Linda: The same goes for sex.  Sex can be a great hook if it's not

overdone.

PN Elrod 2: LOL--opened last book with sex--worked fine to keep a bud awake

on an atlantic flight.

HOST WRTR Linda: haha

PN Elrod 2: He finished the book looking for more!

HOST WRTR Linda: not that kind of book PN

PN Elrod 2: and he hates reading!

HOST WRTR Linda: just an opening scene.

HOST WRTR Linda: lol

PN Elrod 2: Not my idea--my co-writer was playing Jackie collins. LOL

HOST WRTR Linda: I had in mind something where there are more pages with

writing than with pics.

PN Elrod 2: So I had to put in a scene too.

HOST WRTR Linda: lolol

Jackatbrun: Linda, here's one from WEB Griffin, The Murderers:

PN Elrod 2: I defy anyone to tell who wrote what! LOL

Jackatbrun: Officer Jerry Kellog, who was on the Five Squad of the Narcotics

Unit... had heard somewhere

AWeiss4338: Okay I guess we're not in protcall so here's mine:

Jackatbrun: that if something went wrong, and you found yourself looking

down the barrel of a gun, th

Jackatbrun: the best thing to do was smile.

PN Elrod 2: good one

Jackatbrun: He gets shot within three paragraphs.

HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, I like that one a lot.  It's a great example with a

little twist  at the end.

AWeiss4338: It was July of 1976. I was 13 years old when Gene Simmons pucked

up blood and changed my 

Kathi Smith 116: Guess he didn't smile

AWeiss4338: life.

AWeiss4338: Gross but good

HOST WRTR Linda: yup AW

HOST WRTR Linda: ok, back to the "symbolic object" as a hook

AWeiss4338: Cheese Chonicals, Tommy Womack

PN Elrod 2: Not one I'd read AW

PN Elrod 2: LOL

HOST WRTR Linda: ie, it was the last Christmas tree on the lot.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: The ax lay amoung the other exhibits, glittering evilly,

its honed shine

AWeiss4338: Cool book about a real life rock band

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: dulled here and there by dark stains. No matter where in

the crowded courtroom the

PN Elrod 2: yeah--back to protocols

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: eye wandered, it was drawn helplessly back to that

gleaming focus of attention.

HOST WRTR Linda: Very nice SPKLD1

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: There is an object.

HOST WRTR Linda: Yup, you can't miss that one.  It fits all the parameters

PN Elrod 2: I prefer starting with focus on a character. Instant

identification for reader.

HOST WRTR Linda: That works too PN

JHollen937: I've recently become a fan of Alice Hoffman, she opens

everything with scene.

JHollen937: Exagerrations.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: In that story, the Ax was the focus of the story.

HOST WRTR Linda: and brings us to our next type of hook.

Jackatbrun: PN, yep. "Luke had but one regret, his father loved his brother

more."

HOST WRTR Linda: character portrait.

HOST WRTR Linda: I want to go back to SPKLD1's example for a second

FHouser103: PN, how about Who am I, and how will this story end?

PN Elrod 2: that's up to the writer FH

Jackatbrun: Sparks, I detested that beginning.

HOST WRTR Linda: With the Ax being the focus of the story.  In this case,

the Ax

HOST WRTR Linda: is also a character.

HOST WRTR Linda: not just an object.

PN Elrod 2: Like the House of Usher itself being a character.

HOST WRTR Linda: yes

FHouser103: Good Jack!

PN Elrod 2: Or fire is a character in film "Backdraft"

HOST WRTR Linda: Those types of beginnings are very effective.

HOST WRTR Linda: Oh, that is a good one PN

Jackatbrun: "I heard his sonorous, angry voice before I knew his face, and I

lived his life before I 

PN Elrod 2: I've yet to do one of those.  for me people are the means to my

end.(ing)

Jackatbrun: ever knew it would be a story, his or mine.

HOST WRTR Linda: What is that from, Jack?

Jackatbrun: Linda, the beginning of El Viejo, the Ambrose Bierce story--from

the movie.

PN Elrod 2: He wrote the most entertaining "Devil's Dictionary."

HOST WRTR Linda: I missed that one.

HOST WRTR Linda: Several other ways to use a hook are:

PN Elrod 2: Earth: n. a planet consisting of 70% water made for man--who has

no gills.

Jackatbrun: Linda, a great yarn by a Spanish author... Carlos... Ugh. ?

HOST WRTR Linda: start with a question, start with a scene, use thoughts,

predictions or anecdotes.

HOST WRTR Linda: (It will come to you Jack)

HOST WRTR Linda: One thing I want to impress upon you

JHollen937: I read recently...in this matter of scene...that you have to

imagine yourself standing there

JHollen937: with both a telescope and microscope.

Jackatbrun: Spanish WRITING author. I'm unsure.

Jackatbrun: The book is "El Viejo," and I can't remember the movie's name.

JHollen937: Start at one end of the spectrum, running all the way through to

the other.

HOST WRTR Linda: is that you need to KNOW your hook inside and out.  Last

weekend

JHollen937: Instantaneous projection of all things.  Bam.

HOST WRTR Linda: I went to a conference.  I had read a story by someone in

our live 

HOST WRTR Linda: writers group and I knew her work was pretty good.

Jackatbrun: JH, Scott Momaday writes exactly like that in one classic

paragraph describing Rainy Mtn.

JHollen937: I reread Alan Lightman's book, "Einsteins Dreams" to help me get

a grip on that.

HOST WRTR Linda: In casual conversation she was asked by a guest writer

(whoes agent just happend to be 

JHollen937: It really did wonders for a paragraph opening I did this week.

JHollen937: I just loved it.

HOST WRTR Linda: standing there) what her book was about.

HOST WRTR Linda: I could have almost cried for her.  Her answer was

(verbatim) 

HOST WRTR Linda: "It's hard to explain, it's very complicated with a lot of

complicated characters"

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Eeeeeek!

Jackatbrun: Oi, Lin, and I had hoped for soooo much more.

PN Elrod 2: Gawd--what a dufus!

AWeiss4338: Oh boy

HOST WRTR Linda: "It's a complicated story with a lot of ins and outs"

PN Elrod 2: You have to give the agents the TV guide synopsis

AWeiss4338: Would have been better

HOST WRTR Linda: Yeah, unfortunately she didn't get a second chance.

PN Elrod 2: One of mine is "Tom Jones--with fangs."

HOST WRTR Linda: lolol

Sryope2: Look it isn't so easy.  Bush is being prepared by experts and even

he makes blunders due to 

PN Elrod 2: or Dracula--but with magic

Sryope2: nerves

PN Elrod 2: Go thru the bookstore racks--read a hundred 1st lines only--see

which grab you.

HOST WRTR Linda: It is absolutely critical that you know your hook and CAN

give a one

JHollen937: PN, I thought about magic tonight, there was a TV show on...and

the thought occurred to me..

PN Elrod 2: then do what those writers did--you don't have to reinvent the

wheel

JHollen937: "Jesus, what if he was really..really doing it?"

PN Elrod 2: just see how they're made

HOST WRTR Linda: minute synopsis at the drop of a hat.  And that synopsis

better have a hook in case

PN Elrod 2: JH--then he must be my room mate

JHollen937: We know it's magic..stage tricks..but what if...

Jackatbrun: "Injured by forces beyond their control, 

HOST WRTR Linda: an agent is within hearing distance.

Jackatbrun: x's characters struggle vainly in the net of distiny.

PN Elrod 2: how about "The Innocents Abroad, but in Post Holacost America"

fantasy

Jackatbrun: In the end, only the face of the lonely heath remains untouched

by fate in this masterpiece

HOST WRTR Linda: rotfloll Jack

PN Elrod 2: "Vampire detective whose 1st case is to solve his own murder."

Jackatbrun: of tragic passion, a tale that perfectly epitomizes the author's

own unique and melancholy v

Jackatbrun: view.//

Dano Cap n: Dick Clark::is he a Vamp or what :: he never grows old

PN Elrod 2: dano--naw, but he does drink a lot of milk

PN Elrod 2: I think it's in his contract

HOST WRTR Linda: Wow Jack.  A few people hear might take that verbatim.  lol

Dano Cap n: Milk ;}

HOST WRTR Linda: As a great example.

Jackatbrun: Linda, that's the way it's done.

JHollen937: Well, I have to go to bed, nice chatting.  Good writing to you

all.  Nite.

HOST WRTR Linda: Well, close.  You have to be enthusiastic about your own

work

HOST WRTR Linda: if you expect anyone else to be.

PN Elrod 2: Yeah--if you don't like your stuff you can't expect an editor to

love it

Jackatbrun: Linda, what I want to know is how McMurtry described Lonesome

Dove to his agent/publisher.

HOST WRTR Linda: (I might leave out the word "masterpiece" unless I said it

with a great big smile.

PN Elrod 2: the 1st thing I EVER tried to write--i opened with an apology.

PN Elrod 2: Happily i came to my senses!

HOST WRTR Linda: Yeah, that would be good, Jack.

HOST WRTR Linda: PN, lololo

FHouser103: Jack, There were these cowa...

PN Elrod 2: So I stopped writing and read for the next 15 years

PN Elrod 2: it worked

FHouser103: cows

HOST WRTR Linda: I think we will have to revisit the "pitch" sometime in the

near future.

Jackatbrun: FH, well, uh, he takes his pal's body from Montana to Lonesome

Dove at the end.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Sounds good Linda.

PN Elrod 2: I'm working on one: Hitchhiker's meets Red Dwarf meets Dr. who

PN Elrod 2: with magic...!

HOST WRTR Linda: I dont' want anyone here fumbling for a synopsis if they

get a shot

HOST WRTR Linda: at a meeting.

Jackatbrun: PN, isn't that Harry Potter?

PN Elrod 2: Linda--if people ask you 100 times "what's yer book about?" you

learn the short answer fast!

PN Elrod 2: jack--MINE will have sex in it! LOL

HOST WRTR Linda: 100 times???

HOST WRTR Linda: I am impressed and envious.

PN Elrod 2: Lin--happened to me

HOST WRTR Linda: lol

Jackatbrun: PN, that'll help! Maybe _I_ will read it then.

Sryope2: Linda.  Will we get a newsletter next week?  I didn't get one this

time.

PN Elrod 2: they look at you funny "So you're a writer????"

HOST WRTR Linda: I hope you had the right answer PN

HOST WRTR Linda: oh, PN.  lol Yup we get use to that.

PN Elrod 2: I'd say yeah. then they want to know "Have you written

anything?"  Duh!!

Kathi Smith 116: I thought all writers got that look

HOST WRTR Linda: hahahaha

PN Elrod 2: No--but I'm good at scrubbing cars!

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: You should have Sryope2, I got one at least..

PN Elrod 2: I just say that I'm writing!

Sryope2: Heck, I give myself lthat look everyday in the mirror

Kathi Smith 116: I didn't get one either

HOST WRTR Linda: Yes Syrope, my apologies

Sryope2: Will you please resend SPK

HOST WRTR Linda: Kathi, you too

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: hmm.... guess the mail had problems.

PN Elrod 2: I got a bud--looks like she should be running a scout troop.

PN Elrod 2: Writes the most nasty scary horror you ever heard of

HOST WRTR Linda: It shouldn't have, I got the confirm on the send out

Sryope2: By the way, the newsletter is great.  I truly look forward to it

each week

PN Elrod 2: they all think she does romance or children's

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I didn't have the list this week Syope2, so I don't know

what happened.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but I can forward one.. 

HOST WRTR Linda: but my mailing list may not be as up to date as I wish.

PN Elrod 2: gawd knows what they think of me in my leggings and Hawaiian

shirts.....

HOST WRTR Linda: If anyone didn't get the memo type ! to the screen now and

I'll send you one

Jackatbrun: Later, all. Thanks, Linda.

HOST WRTR Linda: it had the second half of Sandy's article on Voice in it.

HOST WRTR Linda: Thanks Jack

Kathi Smith 116: !

HOST WRTR Linda: Goodnight.

Sryope2: !

FHouser103: Enjoyed it , Linda

Sryope2: Thanks Linda

HOST WRTR Linda: I have Kathi and Sryope2.  Anyone else missing a memo?

Kathi Smith 116: Night all, good chat Linda

Dano Cap n: good night all

Sryope2: Most have signed off

HOST WRTR Linda: nite Kathi

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I got them sent one Linda..

Sryope2: Thank you

HOST WRTR Linda: Thank you SPKLD1

PN Elrod 2: thanks & ciao

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Note to Self: Get a copy of that list! :-)

HOST WRTR Linda: Good night all.  Thanks for your participation

HOST WRTR Linda: SPKLD1, Apparently my list is outdated.  

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Thanks Linda... it went well!

HOST WRTR Linda: Thanks SPKLD1

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Good chat!

HOST WRTR Linda: Goodnight all.

HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :::LOG OFF:::