PCB layout software

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From: fmg@alpha.smi.med.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz)

Newsgroups: sci.electronics

Subject: PCB layout software (part of FAQ)

Summary: Version 0.3

Keywords: a bit longish

Message-ID: <8662@blue.cis.pitt.edu>

Date: 13 Apr 93 02:49:31 GMT

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PCB-Software list Last Update: 4/12/93

Edited by fmgst+@pitt.edu. Please send corrections/additions to that address.

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I ignored all [complete] software packages over $600 since students can't

afford that if their life depended on it! Software companies, get the hint?

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I AM NOT ENDORSING OR HAVE AFFILIATION WITH ANY OF THE FOLOWING COMPANIES!

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Advanced Microcomputer Systems, Inc.

1460 S.W. 3rd Street, Suite B-8

Pompano Beach, FL 33069

Tel: 1-800-972-3733

Tel: 1-305-784-0900

Fax: 1-305-784-0904

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(From their ad)

"EZ-LOGIC and EZ-BOARD as 'personal use' versions of and compatible with our

professional level EZ-ROUTE PRO PCB design system. These programs are perfect

for design engineers who desire an economical yet powerful PCB design program.

The complete system includes the DesignRule checker and ability to view

Gerber plot files. The schematic capture module supports A through E size

sheets, comes with user-expandable library, and outputs netlists. The PCB

layout module supports 8 layers, trace width from 0.001" to 0.255", flexible

grid, accepts netlists from several different formats such as FuturNet, PCAD,

and EDIF. SMD components on both sides of the board and outputs to penplotters,

Gerber photoplotters, and dot-matrix printers."

"Price: EZ-LOGIC $99.00"

"Price: EZ-BOARD $149.00"

"Free evaluation package - 30 days no-hassle money-back"

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Advanced Systems Design, Inc.

Pelham, NH ??????

Tel: 1-800-626-4460

Fax: 1-603-635-3918

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(From their ad in ComputerCraft)

"BoardMaker - PC layout software for MS-DOS computers"

"BoardMaker 1 - Entry Level (No netlist input)"

"* PCB and schematic drafting, * Easy and intuitive to use, * Ground plane

copper fill"

"Price: $95"

"BoardMaker 2 - Advanced Level"

"All the features of BM1 plus: * Full netlist support (OrCad & others),

* full design checking"

"Price: $295"

"BoardMaker 2 with BoardRouter"

"All the features of BM2 plus: * Simultaneous multilayer routing, * SMD and

analog support, * Full interrupt, pan, zoom while routing"

"Price: $495"

"Output drivers - included as standard"

"Laser, PostScript, 9&24 pin printers, penplotters, photoplotters, NC Drill"

"Call for info or FREE evaluation kit"

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Aeroux Engineering

32 West Anapamu, Suite 228

Santa Barbara, CA 93110

Tel: 1-805-962-9695

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(From a friend)

"Electro CAD"

"* Do your own Schematics, 2X PCBs, SMT, * Rubber-banding, inter-trace

flood, * Context-sensitive hypertext help, * Graphics libraries with

editor, * Total control of EGA/VGA for layout."

"Free Demo Disk"

"Price: $99.00"

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Autoscene

10565 Bluebird Street

Minneapolis, MN 55433

Tel: 1-612-757-8584

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"PCB and schematic CAD, $195.00. IBM EGA CGA, multilayer, rubberband, autovia,

NC drill, laser [printers], dot-matrix [printers], plotter, library, Gerber.

Call or write for a free demo disk."

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Bsoft Software, Inc.

444 Colton Rd.

Columbus, OH 43207

Tel: 1-800-728-3805

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"Engineering software, PC/MSDOS. Circuit design and drawing, PCB layout,

Logic simulation, FFT analysis, Mathematics, Circuit analysis. Call or

write for a free catalog."

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Design Computation

1771 State Highway 34

Farmingdale, NJ 07727

Tel: 1-908-681-7700

Fax: 1-908-681-8733

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"DC/CAD introducing THE TERMINATOR... Super High Density Router (Complete

with Schematic & PCB Editor)"

"Features the following powerful algorithm and capability: * Rip-up and

Retry, * Pre-routing of SMT components, * Real-Time via minimization,

* Real-Time clean-up passes, User-defined strategies, Window 3.0 [probably

3.1 by now] capability as MS-DOS task, * 1-mil Autoplacer and Autopanning,

* Two-way Gerber and DXF, * Automatic ground-plane with Cross-Hatching,

* Complete with Schematic & Dolly libraries, * Optional simulation

capability & protected mode for 386 users."

"PCB Layout Service at Low Cost" "Lease program & site license available"

"Call for FREE DEMO DISK" "Price Range: $295 to $1,495"

[If you can't get a complete basic package for under the required $500,

someone please e-mail me and I'll remove this entry]

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Douglas Electronics, Inc.

2777 Alverado Street

San Leandro, CA 94577

Tel: 1-510-483-8770

Fax: 1-510-483-6453

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(From their ad/review)

[This runs on the Apple Mac not IBM PC & clones]

"GerberViewer"

"GerverViewer [...] lets engineers measure, manipulate, print, and edit real-

time graphical representations of their designs. It also allows them to

produce PostScript-compatible composites of their designs. It reads Gerber

and aperture files created by the Gerber File Creator and other PC-board

design systems. [...] allows measurements down to 1 micron [...] can be used

stand-alone"

"Price: $250"

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Ehlers Technical Consultants

Tel: 1-402-483-4480 (voice/fax/modem)

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"Printed circuit CAD software! PC-trace, proven IBM-PC shareware, has gone

commercial. Includes: graphic layout, autorouting, schematic capture.

Output: printers, pen/photoplotters, autocad. $95.00 postpaid. Visa/MC"

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Epoch Technology

Box 2175

Sandusky, OH 44871

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(From their ad somewhere)

"CAD/CAM software. Two CAD programs for PCB design. Programs contain

board layout routines. Outputs 1X and 2X art work. Will handle up to

300 components and 1800 connections. Autorouter, mouse, dot-matrix

and laser support. Programs require PC/XT/AT"

"Price: $14.95" [I checked, that's what it is :-]

"Electronic symbols collection (200+) in DXF format"

"Price: $29.95"

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Gav [or QiCAD]

345 W. Williams Avenue

Fallon, NV 89406

Tel: 1-702-423-1653

Fax: 1-702-423-1654

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"Professional Circuit Design... QiCAD... Save time and money!"

"QiCAD is a full-featured printed circuit layout package that gives you

everything you need to design circuit boards quickly."

"* On-line help, * Auto-router, * Powerful editing, * HPGL/DMPL plots,

* Gerber, * PostScript, * Excellon (DRILL), * EGA/VGA compatible"

"Price (complete) $195.00"

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You can get easytrax.zip by anonymous FTP from wuarchive (128.252.135.4).

Here's the step-by-step process:

# ftp 128.252.135.4

Name (128.252.135.4:fmg): "anonymous"

Password: "myname@myhost"

ftp> cd mirrors

ftp> cd msdos

ftp> cd cad

ftp> dir

[trimmed]

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 308682 Apr 1 17:59 lasi412a.zip < AHA!

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 332472 Apr 1 17:59 lasi412b.zip < AHA!

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 279824 Apr 1 17:59 lasi412c.zip < AHA!

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 22424 Mar 18 17:59 lasidemo.zip < AHA!

[trimmed]

ftp> binary

ftp> prompt

ftp> mget lasi*.zip

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for lasi412a.zip (308682 bytes).

308682 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for lasi412b.zip (332472 bytes).

332472 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for lasi412c.zip (279824 bytes).

279824 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for lasidemo.zip (22424 bytes).

22424 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

ftp> quit

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*** NOTE *** :

PLEASE login AFTER business hours! Otherwise, not only will you suffer from SLOW

transfer rates but there is a VERY good chance you'll get the following message:

530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous FTP users using the system at this

530-time. Please try again in a few minutes. There is currently a limit

530-of 100 anonymous users.

530 User anonymous access denied..

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Mental Automation, Inc.

5415 - 136th Place S.E.

Bellevue, WA 98006

Tel: 1-206-642-2141

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"SuperCAD(tm) Schematic Entry Software for the IBM PC & [clones]"

"Only $99.00 [for the] complete package"

"* Easy-to-use schematic entry program for circuit diagrams, * Visable (sic)

on-screen and pull-down menus, * Supports popular graphic standards, mice,

and printers, * Powerful editing and drawing commands, * Extensive digital,

analog, and discrete part libraries, * In-depth, readable instruction manual,

* Over 100 screens of on-line help information, * Software includes part

building and netlisting, * Add P.C. board layout software and routing soft-

ware for only $99.00 each."

"New MS-Windows versions available [of all the above]"

"Write or call for further information and FREE demo disk"

"Visa & MC orders accepted!"

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Number One Systems, Ltd.

Harding Way, St. Ives

Huntington, Cambs, England, PE17 4WR

Tel: 011-44-480-61778

Fax: 011-44-480-494042 [??]

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(From a friend)

"PCB & Schematics CAD"

"EASY-PC for a single sided and multilayer boards to 17"x17" with up to

1500 IC's including SMT. [...] Over 7000 copies sold. Needs PC/XT/286/386

CGA/EGA/VGA. Output to laserjet/inkjet/dot-matrix printer, plotter, photo-

plotter, and NC Drill."

"VISA/MC/AMEX accepted. Dealers wanted. Contact us directly for full

information"

"Price: $195"

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Ohio Automation, Inc.

7840 Angel Ridge Road

Athens, OH 45701

Tel: 1-614-592-1810

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"NEW Easy PC" "British DESIGN Award" "Schematic and PCB CAD"

"Includes: * CGA/EGA/VGA compatible, * Design large, multi-layer boards,

* One level pull-down menu and quick keys for fast layout, * Dot-matrix,

laser, plotter, Gerber & NC Drill output, * 6 Month Free update"

"Free Demo"

"Price: $195.00"

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Omation

801 Presidential Drive

Richardson, TX 75081

Tel: 1-800-553-9119

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(From their ad in Personal Engineering & Instrumentation News)

[This is a schematic capture program under MS-Windows - not a PCB layout]

"SCHEMAx [...] features: * Auto-routing signals around components, * Parts

scaling, * Continuous zoom, * Combined parts select and browse, * Flexible

regions - and more!" [Seems that you can get a lower price by "trading your

old [program...] no matter what brand it is...] Not sure if this still

holds... same for current price.

"Order your FREE demonstration disk from [us]..."

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Pads Software, Inc.

Littleton, MA

Tel:

Fax:

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(From wuarchive)

Welcome to the PADS Evaluation Package. This Evaluation Package is unique,

because it is the first PCB and schematic CAD program to be provided as

Shareware. This means that the Evaluation Package is not simply a demo disk,

but a complete, working copy of PADS-Logic and PADS-PCB. It contains all of

the capabilities of the commercial program, and can produce a complete set of

netlists and drawings. It is only limited in the size of the circuit you can

create.

With the PADS-Logic shareware package, you can create schematics, make plots,

produce net lists, define library parts... all of the functions of PADS-Logic.

With the PADS-PCB shareware package, you can automatically place your design,

autoroute it, create photoplot outputs and N/C drill files... all of the

functions of PADS-PCB. All drawings, library parts, and layouts you create can

be read directly by the commercial versions of PADS-Logic and PADS-PCB, so

every minute spent with this shareware is real work!

The PADS-PCB and PADS-Logic Evaluation software are each supplied on a single

disk. Additionally, there is a library disk shared by the programs.

In the root directory of all 3 disks, you will find the file INSTALL.DOC. This

file may be displayed or printed, and explains how to install PADS-PCB and

PADS-Logic on your hard disk.

The user manual for PADS-PCB is on the PADS-PCB disk under the name MANUAL.PCB.

The user manual for PADS-Logic is on the PADS-Logic disk, under the name

MANUAL.LOG. When you install the programs from the floppy disks, the user

manuals are also loaded into the hard disk in the \PADSDEMO directory. If you

do not have a published copy of the manual, you may create one by printing

these files with the DOS Print command or a word processor.

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You can get PADS by anonymous FTP from wuarchive (128.252.135.4). Here's the

step-by-step process:

# ftp 128.252.135.4

Name (128.252.135.4:fmg): "anonymous"

Password: "myname@myhost"

ftp> cd mirrors

ftp> cd msdos

ftp> cd cad

ftp> dir

[trimmed]

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 488615 Feb 12 1992 padslib.zip < AHA!

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 1081636 Feb 12 1992 padslog.zip < AHA!

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 1036461 Feb 12 1992 padspcb.zip < AHA!

[trimmed]

ftp> binary

ftp> prompt

ftp> mget pads*.zip

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for padslib.zip (488615 bytes).

488615 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for padslog.zip (1081636 bytes).

1081636 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for padspcb.zip (1036461 bytes).

1036461 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

ftp> quit

**************************

*** NOTE *** :

PLEASE login AFTER business hours! Otherwise, not only will you suffer from SLOW

transfer rates but there is a VERY good chance you'll get the following message:

530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous FTP users using the system at this

530-time. Please try again in a few minutes. There is currently a limit

530-of 100 anonymous users.

530 User anonymous access denied..

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Now, due to the fact that installation requires a BIT of time for most, here's

what you must do to convert the files you just got from WUARCHIVE into some-

thing you can install:

Get the three files (PADSLIB, PADSPCB, and PADSLOG) onto your

hard drive. Also get 3 FORMATTED (MS-DOS) 1.44MB 3.5" disks.

[Note: you will need a hard drive with at least 7MB free or 2

3.5" 1.44MB floppy drives]

Put in the first disk and [assuming the 1.44MB drive is A:] type:

C:\> unzip -d padslog.zip a:

Swap in the second disk

C:\> unzip -d padspcb.zip a:

Swap in the third disk

C:\> unzip -d padslib.zip a:

Assuming all went well and since you need at least 7 Megs free (!!):

C:\> del padslog.zip

C:\> del padspcb.zip

C:\> del padslib.zip

Now, swap in the first disk again:

C:\> A:

A:\> pinstall

Go for "Shareware Install" and hit F1, select the destination

drive then the source (A:) drive and say "Y" to the next

questions... the computer should be busy for a while :-)

When it asks you if you want to install the "Library", swap

in the third disk and answer the same questions again.

To install the padspcb, go to the first menu of PINSTALL

and select "Shareware Install" again... you know the rest...

except that say that you do NOT want to install the library

again.

Not done quite yet! Go to the first screen of PINSTALL and

select "Hardware Configure" and just pick the VGA board you

have, then plotter, and then printer. You HAVE to have one

of each so just pick the one you WISH you had :-) and just

don't use it for printing.

Now, hit <ESC> and say "Y" to the exit question.

You're now done!

A:\> C:

C:\> cd padsdemo

C:\PADSDEMO> padsgo

Whoa!

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And some more help to this "nob-obvious" program so you can enjoy it more:

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(From SJM2228)

Subject: How to import schematic from LOGIC to PCB layout

To import a schematic file into PADS you must create a netlist

while in the LOGIC portion of the program. This part of the program

is listed either separately or in the IN/OUT section. Once you have

created the netlist, exit LOGIC and enter the PCB section. Start

off by creating a circuit board area by using the CREATE menu section.

Next, go to the SETUP section and use the ORIGIN command to redefine

the origin to the lower right corner of your board. Go to IN/OUT

and load in the NETLIST. PADS will load in the netlist and place

all components in a pile at the origin. Connections between components

will be rubberbands. Use the PLACE section to move the components to

the area of the board of your choice. Once all parts are in

position, use the ROUTE command to change the rubberband connections

into traces.

Last minute corrections can be made in the ON THE FLY section, it

is in the IN/OUT directory. Schematic updates can be automatically

incorporated into the PCB by using the ECO command in the LOGIC and

PCB portions. (ECO = engineering change order)

Since I do not have a laser printer, I find the printer output

section to be most helpful. I can create postscript files that

I then bring to school to print on their laser printers.

This is a powerful package and I have yet to master it. I am

writing this from school, so I do not have the program available

to me as I type this. Sorry I cannot be more exact on the

keystrokes. Should you have more questions, let me know.

(From Mont Pierce)

Subject: How to import schematic from LOGIC to PCB layout

To output a file from PADS-Logic that can be imported to PADS-PCB start

with your circuit on the screen from PADS-LOGIC and do the following:

Startup PADS-LOGIC and read in your circuit diagram.

Then

Select In/Out

select Reports

select Net List

select PADS-PCB

enter filename at prompt

Now you can import this into PADS-PCBS as an ascii import file.

Once you've imported it then all the ports will be displayed in the

bottom left corner. Next you can move the parts where you want them,

and then proceed to route the connections.

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PCBoards

2110 14th Ave. South

Birmingham, AL 35205

Tel: 1-800-473-PCBS

Tel: 1-205-933-1120

BBS/Fax: 1-205-933-2954

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"Create and Revise PCB Art in a flash"

"* For IBM's & Compatibles, * HERC, CGA, EGA, VGA, & SVGA, * Auto ground

planes, * Dot-matrix, laser, and plotter art, * Gerber and Excello output,

* Create your own films with 1X art, * Libraries, * Help screens, * Menus,

* Download demos from 24-hr BBS!"

"PCBoards layout program $99, PCBoards HP or HI PEN plotter driver $49,

PCBoards Gerber & Ecellon Disk $49, PCRoute autorouter $99, SuperCAD

schematic... starts at $99, Demo package [of all 3 programs] $10.00"

"Call or write for more information"

(From ComputerCraft)

"Version 4 of PCRoute+ from PCBoards uses 2 routing algorithms for typically

95% completion ratios [...] features SVGA and almost seamless interface with

its companion program, SuperCAD Schematic. Also included is via optimization.

[...] has completely new look, with all new screens"

"Price: $149"

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Protel

Protel Easytrax (DOS)

Freeware version 2.06

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(From wuarchive)

[ptr->flame rmvd]

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You can get easytrax.zip by anonymous FTP from wuarchive (128.252.135.4).

Here's the step-by-step process:

# ftp 128.252.135.4

Name (128.252.135.4:fmg): "anonymous"

Password: "myname@myhost"

ftp> cd mirrors

ftp> cd msdos

ftp> cd cad

ftp> dir

[trimmed]

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 496079 Mar 18 17:59 easytrax.zip < AHA!

[trimmed]

ftp> binary

ftp> get easytrax.zip

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for easytrax.zip (496079 bytes).

496079 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

ftp> quit

**************************

*** NOTE *** :

PLEASE login AFTER business hours! Otherwise, not only will you suffer from SLOW

transfer rates but there is a VERY good chance you'll get the following message:

530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous FTP users using the system at this

530-time. Please try again in a few minutes. There is currently a limit

530-of 100 anonymous users.

530 User anonymous access denied..

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Quickroute

POWERware

14 Ley Lane

Marple Bridge, Stockport, SK6 5DD, UK.

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(From wuarchive)

Welcome

To Quickroute 1.5 for DOS

Release 3.0

Shareware Version of Quickroute 1.5 for DOS

This is the shareware version of Quickroute 1.5 for DOS. It is a fully

functional piece of software that will let you design, load/save, and

print PCB's or schematics on your IBM PC.

Quickroute is protected by Copyright law throughout the world. If you

decide to use Quickroute to produce any kind of graphic design then

you must register with POWERware at :

POWERware, 14 Ley Lane, Marple Bridge, Stockport, SK6 5DD, UK.

Registration costs just 60 US dollars, and the benefits include

a full registered version of the software with all the latest printer

and plotter drivers including 24 pin dot-matrix , LaserJet, HPGL

plotters, as well as our new high quality A5 size manual, complete with

A5 ring binder. We will also send you the latest symbol libraries.

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You can get qr15r3us.zip by anonymous FTP from wuarchive (128.252.135.4).

Here's the step-by-step process:

# ftp 128.252.135.4

Name (128.252.135.4:fmg): "anonymous"

Password: "myname@myhost"

ftp> cd mirrors

ftp> cd msdos

ftp> cd cad

ftp> dir

[trimmed]

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 238934 Feb 19 17:59 qr15r3us.zip < AHA!

[trimmed]

ftp> binary

ftp> get qr15r3us.zip

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for qr15r3us.zip (238934 bytes).

238934 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

ftp> quit

**************************

*** NOTE *** :

PLEASE login AFTER business hours! Otherwise, not only will you suffer from SLOW

transfer rates but there is a VERY good chance you'll get the following message:

530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous FTP users using the system at this

530-time. Please try again in a few minutes. There is currently a limit

530-of 100 anonymous users.

530 User anonymous access denied..

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Randy Nevin

1731 211th PL NE

Redmond, WA 98053

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(From Randy Nevin)

[This is the article that Mr. Nevin posts (used to post) to various newsgroup

for anyone what was interested in an autorouter. I've used it a few times

and it sure beats doing it by hand... that does not mean it perfect: it's

not. I was lucky to get 70% on 2 layer boards but that's still better than...

yes, doing it by hand. Besides it comes with a file on HOW autorouters work

and C source (!!) as well as a viewer (EGA/VGA) and printer. Try it!]

"You probably fit into one of the following groups:

(A) - You requested the freely-copyable autorouter that I've been

distributing for the last 2 years

(B) - You've discussed autorouters (or related topics) in comp.lsi.cad or

sci.electronics, and I probably just saved your name as someone who may

be interested in PC-based autorouters

the gerber format spec

(D) - None of the above, in which case I apologize for taking your time, and

you will not be interested in the rest of this mail

I'm sorry for lumping you all together into a form letter, but that is the

most expedient thing for me.

You bring you up to speed quickly: I've been distributing a freely-copyable

(I hold the copyright, but you are free to copy it, as long as you observe the

restrictions) autorouter package for MSDOS on the PC, including source. the

intent of the package is to illustrate how autorouting algorithms work (it

also resulted in an article in the Sept. 89 Dr Dobb's Journal). The user

creates a netlist, the package autoroutes it, displays it on the screen, and

prints it on a laser printer. I've also been working on enhancing it greatly

to make it a system that can be used for actual pcb design (like multi-layer

capability (8 layers), and rip-up and retry).

The reason for this email is that I don't have your US mail addresses. If you

would be interested in the product, and would either buy it (for the right

price; and btw, let me know what you think a fair price is) or be willing to

beta-test it, please send me your US mail address. When the product is ready,

US mail will be the way I'll announce it. I don't want to use email, which I

would consider to be a misuse of my employer's [MicroSoft's] resources.

If you want to [participate,] send me mail via US mail (or to get an update;

there have been a few bug fixes).

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You can get pcb.arc by anonymous FTP from wuarchive (128.252.135.4).

Here's the step-by-step process:

# ftp 128.252.135.4

Name (128.252.135.4:fmg): "anonymous"

Password: "myname@myhost"

ftp> cd mirrors

ftp> cd msdos

ftp> cd cad

ftp> dir

[trimmed]

-rw-r--r-- 1 root archive 127508 Mar 25 1989 pcb.arc < AHA!

[trimmed]

ftp> binary

ftp> get pcb.arc

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for pcb.arc (127508 bytes).

127508 bytes received in xxx seconds (xx.xx Kbytes/s)

ftp> quit

**************************

*** NOTE *** :

PLEASE login AFTER business hours! Otherwise, not only will you suffer from SLOW

transfer rates but there is a VERY good chance you'll get the following message:

530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous FTP users using the system at this

530-time. Please try again in a few minutes. There is currently a limit

530-of 100 anonymous users.

530 User anonymous access denied..

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R4 SYSTEMS, Inc.

P.O. Box 451

West Hill, Ontario Canada M1E 4Y9

Tel: 1-416-399-0943

BBS: 1-416-289-4554 (2400,8,n,1)

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(From their ad in Electronics Now)

"Super new features added to PCBII"

"Easy to use CAD Software... The best just got better..."

[Features:]

"Auto Track Necking: This feature will AUTOMATICLLY ADJUST the track

according to the DESIGN rules you set. [Picture shows a few DIP pads

with a thick trace narrowing to fit between them and then getting thick

again and continuing on]"

"Curved Tracks: Supports true CURVED Tracks. [Picture shows a curved

'right' angle]"

"Gerber Viewing: Lets you verify your GERBER output on screen before

sending it to the PC Board house"

"PCBII - Still Only $149 (US$)!!!"

"Free Evaluation Package - Write or Call Today"

[This next bit is... well...]

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