Majestic

 I have just met with a man who has been able to substantiate

certain sections of my MAJIC.TXT.  You will all find the

following text very interesting.  In order to confirm his

knowledge I performed several tests which will you will spot

in the text.  His revelations were not solicited, I merely

asked him to read the MAJIC.TXT and call me if he wished to

talk.  I met him through friends.  This is the text of two

meetings which I had with him.  The first occurred when we

were introduced.  The second occurred on Christmas Eve and

was the most revealing.

I attended a Christmas party given by a friend who I have

known for many years.  During the evening my friend took me

aside and told me that a man was present that he thought I

should meet.  My friend told me that because of the

information that I had recently released this man might be

able to give me information.  I asked why he thought so?

My friend told me that the man had been in the Army for 21

years and was assigned to DELTA SECURITY.  I was immediately

interested and asked to be introduced.

My friend introduced me to a tall, lean, fit man who was in

his late 60's.  I was impressed with his physical fitness.

His hair was grey and he stood with the bearing of one who

had spent many years with the military.  He was mentally

sharp and showed no effects of his age.

After we had been introduced I told him that I too had spent

many years in military service, the Navy.  I asked him where

he had been stationed.  He replied that he had spent a lot of

time in Colorado, Mew Mexico, Nevada, and at Edwards Air

Force Base.  I commented that I thought it strange that an

Army man would be stationed at Edwards.  "Oh, he said, I was

with Delta Security and we had a lot to do with intra-service

projects." "We provided security for several services." I

then asked him if he had ever heard of Project REDLIGHT.  His

eyes narrowed and he seemed uncomfortable.  In fact he looked

around the room as if looking for somewhere else to go.  "I

may have, he replied, but you know from your Navy days that I

can't discuss what I was involved with."  I told him that in

a way I was involved with it also and then I told him that I

was with Naval Intelligence for a time.  We exchanged small

talk but clearly he was uncomfortable since my mention of

REDLIGHT.  I excused myself then found my friend again.  I

asked my friend if he still had his copy of my MAJIC.TXT and

if he did would he get it for me.  He left the room and then

came back and handed me the file.

I waited until I saw that the Ex-Army man was leaving and

then went out to his car with him.  I asked him if he would

look at something that I would draw.  He said yes but really

had to leave.  On the back of the MAJIC.TXT file I drew the

TRILATERAL insignia.  I said nothing.  He grabbed the file

and asked me where I had seen the insignia.  I told him I had

seen it while with Naval Intelligence and asked him if he

knew what it was.  "Yes, he said, it is on a piece of

equipment.  Do you know what the equipment is?"  I told him

that it makes no sound.  "You know then what REDLIGHT really

is, he said."  I replied that I did.  I told him that the

papers he held was a file explaining the whole thing and that

I would like him to read it and then call me if he would be

willing to talk to me about his experiences.  I told him that

I have never revealed sources and would never reveal him as

the source of the information.  He looked me right in the eye

and said, "If you even tell anyone about this conversation I

will call you a liar right to your face."  I told him that I

understood fully.  I asked him how long he had known my

friend.  He said he had known him for about 7 years.  I told

him to ask our mutual friend about me so that he would feel

more comfortable about me.  He took the file and left.

A few days later he called me and asked to meet me during the

day at a local park on Christmas Eve.  We arranged the time

and met at a picnic table at the park.

The first thing that he said was that he never wanted his

name connected with anything that I ever did or said and that

he never wanted to see me again after our meeting.  I agreed

to those terms.  He then gave me his telephone number and

asked me to call him if I ever thought that his identity had

been compromised in any way.  I agreed to that also.

I then asked him why he had agreed to talk to me about his

involvement.  "For the same reason that you are talking about

it, he replied, the whole thing is very grim and it won't get

better."  I asked him if he wanted me to ask questions or if

he would just like to narrate.  He told me to ask questions

and when I pulled out my tape recorder he told me not to use

it because voice identification was possible.  I knew that

this was possible and again consented to his terms.  I asked

if I could take notes and he agreed to notes only.

Bill----Where did you see the TRILATERAL INSIGNIA that I drew

        for you at the party and that you saw in my file?

Man-----On a flying saucer that I guarded at Edwards Air

        Force Base.  I saw it again on different saucers when

        I was at Area 51 in Nevada....Your file is pretty

        accurate as to what I know....I was surprised by the

        extent of your knowledge.

Bill----I saw some of the information and have other sources.

        That file is the product of 17 years of searching.

        In fact a lot of it came from doing what we are doing

        now, just talking to people.  Can you tell me how you

        came to see the saucer at Edwards?

Man-----I was assigned to guard a hanger at Edwards, at the

        time I didn't know what was in it.

Bill----What was the name of the hanger?

Man-----The hanger had no number or name.  We called it the

        Delta hanger.

Bill----Can you tell me where it is located?

Man-----It is on the North Base.  Its the only hanger off by

        itself and no one is allowed near it without a

        special badge and clearance.

Bill----What does the badge look like?

Man-----It is a red badge with a black triangle on the face

        of it and personal information on the back....like

        any other ID.

Bill----How did you see the saucer?

Man-----The hanger is only entered through one door.  Inside

        the door is the guard room.  On the other side of the

        guard room is a door that goes into an office.  On

        the other side of the office is another door.  We

        were not allowed out of the guard room but one night

        the duty officer asked me if I knew what I was

        guarding.  I said no that it was not my job to know.

        He asked me if I would like to see.  I thought he was

        checking me out and told him it wasn't necessary.  He

        motioned for me to follow him and then took me

        through the office and into the hanger.  I saw the

        saucer sitting on legs and it seemed to have jacks

        under it also.

Bill----Can you describe it for me?

Man-----It was about 30 feet in diameter, metal but not

        shiny.  Like tarnished silver.

Bill----How thick was it?

Man-----About 15 to 18 feet thick.......It had the insignia

        on the underside and again on the top.

Bill----Did you see any openings?

Man-----No but I only saw one side and it was only for about

        3 or 4 minutes.

Bill----Was it round?

Man-----Oh yes...just like the movies.

Bill----Were there any windows?

Man-----There was what looked to be windows around the raised

        portion but I could not see inside.

Bill----Were they round?

Man-----No, they were rectangular....I also saw a groove

        around the saucer about 4 feet from the edge all the

        way around and it was on the top and bottom.  There

        was an area on the bottom that looked like vents or

        louvres.

Bill----What did the Officer say to you?

Man-----Only that he did not show me anything and we went

        back to the guard room then he left.

Bill----Isn't that unusual?

Man-----Everything I did or saw on Delta was unusual.  I saw

        people break down and cry for no reason at times.

        When things like that occurred you would never see

        that man again.

Bill----What happened to them?

Man-----I don't know and didn't ask.

Bill----Lets deviate from this for awhile.  Do you mind?

Man-----No, I don't.

Bill----How did you get into Delta security?

Man-----I was recruited into the National Recon Organization

        and went to Fort Carson Colorado.  After a lot of

        training I was screened for Delta and then assigned

        to Delta.

Bill----Why did they recruit you?

Man-----I was told that it was because I was an orphan.  If

        something happens to someone connected to a secret

        project and they have family, the family could

        compromise the project in just trying to find out

        what happened to their loved one.

Bill----Is everyone in Delta orphans?

Man-----Just about, either that or their family died or was

        killed later in life.

Bill----Didn't that bother you?  I mean what could be so

        secret that they have to use orphans?

Man-----Some of the things I've seen......The stories...

        especially concerning dreamland....Did you know there

        are bounty hunters connected with dreamland?

Bill----What do you mean?

Man-----If you work at Dreamland and go on leave or pass and

        are not back on time or if someone doesn't come back

        they send bounty hunters after you.......Thats where

        the visitors...you know what I mean... live....there

        is an underground facility.......I don't think I

        should say anymore.....Most of the time I was there I

        can't even remember anyway.....We were supposed to

        talk about Redlight.

Bill----I don't remember agreeing to talk only about

        Redlight....Is this a new condition?

Man-----Yes, I don't want to talk about anything else........

        I will tell you that very strange things happen at

        Dreamland.

Bill----What do you mean when you say you can't remember?

Man-----I can't remember....I really don't want to talk about

        Dreamland.....I won't talk about it.

Bill----Please don't tantalize me.  Either talk about it or

        don't but don't do this to me.  What else can you say

        about Dreamland?  Can you tell me where it is?

Man-----No, I can't talk about it.  This is all very

        dangerous and I am married now.....I just can't take

        a chance.

Bill----Ok, tell me about Area 51.

Man-----Area 51 is at Groom Lake in Nevada.  Its the

        headquarters of Redlight.......The saucers are flown

        there.  Its part of the test range...Its on the map..

        its just a dry lake bed with a Top Secret

        installation built on and around it.

Bill----Have you seen one fly?

Man-----Yes, they are incredibly fast and make no noise at

        all.

Bill----Is the one at Area 51 the same as the one at Edwards?

Man-----One was the same....the other one I saw looks like a

        diamond.......like in a womans engagement ring.....if

        you take the diamond out of a ring and turn it upside

        down......thats what it looks like.

Bill----You mean literally like a diamond?

Man-----No, but the shape is the same.....it really

        glows....but only when it flys.  On the ground it is

        the same metal as the saucer at Edwards....when it

        flys it glows like the sun and sometimes changes

        colors.

Bill----How close were you when you saw it?

Man-----Not close...no one was allowed to get close....

        I think it emmitted radiation because we were all

        required to wear dosimeters and they had to be

        checked daily.

Bill----You mean it was atomic powered?

Man-----I don't know.....I only know there was a definate

        radiation hazard and our dosimeters were checked

        daily.  We turned them in to be checked and were

        issued new ones every day.

Bill----How long did you stay at Area 51?

Man-----The first time was for 3 months....Nobody ever stayed

        more than a few months.  The second time I was there

        was for almost 5 months.....its like wartime there

        were no passes while at Area 51....we had excellent

        recreation facilitys though.

Bill----I hate to press you but I would like to know more

        about Dreamland.  My information seems to conflict

        with yours.  I have information that the Alien base

        is in New Mexico, is that where Dreamland is?

Man-----There is more than one base and I have to go now....

        I should not be talking to you about anything at all.

        Its all too dangerous....even more than you

        think.....I don't know everything but I know that its

        way out of control and to tell you the truth I'm

        afraid of what is going to happen.....Don't ask me

        what because I don't know but........I know something

        is going to happen.......Giant underground shelters

        are being built under Groom Lake.....and in other

        places.  From reading your papers you know more about

        a lot of this than I do.....I really do have to go

        now....Its Christmas Eve and I live a ways off.

Bill----Before you go would you look over these notes and

        make sure they're right?

Man-----I watched you write and its right.  What are you

        going to do with those notes?

Bill----I'll make a file and release this in the form of an

        interview without identifying you.

Man-----If you do I'll call you a liar.

Bill----I won't identify you and just so you will feel better

        I have never identified any of my sources.  If you

        ever want to talk again you have my phone number.

Man-----I don't think so....you had better be real careful...

        I mean about yourself....I really wouldn't give

        anyone else those notes....You should think about it.

Bill----What do you think will happen?

Man-----The same thing that has happened to ......some others

        .......you should just drop it.....you....nobody can

        do anything.

The rest was just parting conversation.  He seemed to be very

sincere and very worried about what he was telling and

worried about my safety as well as his own.

This is the second person who has described a saucer at

Edwards, the same security badge, and reference to Dreamland

keeps coming up with these people.  This is the first time I

have heard that there is more than one alien base and it is

the first time I have heard of bounty hunters.  I think the

reference to a radiation hazard and the use of dosemeters is

also significant in view of the incident in Texas involving

the two women.  John Lear told me that Dreamland was at

Edwards.  Personally I do not know the location.  Just the

name "DREAMLAND" is so far away from the normal military

trend of naming projects and places that it provokes

questions.  I would like to point out that at one point my

sources told me the alien base was at Dreamland then they

told me it wasn't true and backed away from it.  The name

keeps cropping up in connection with the alien base.

Reference to loss of memory is also common with abductees.  I

found this interview to be personally disturbing.

Where possible I wrote down the questions and answers and

those are written exactly as asked and as answered.  At some

points the conversation is reconstructed from my notes but

was done as soon as I arrived home and I am certain that it

is accurate.  Having just met this man I have no clue as to

his motives or to the accuracy of the information.  However I

do believe he was sincere and the range of emotions he

expressed would have been difficult for even a very good

professional actor.

(NOTE!  A "dosemeter" is (or was when I was in service) a

piece of film in a small badge that is worn by personnel when

working in areas where they may be exposed to radiation.

If the film is hit by a dose of radiation it is exposed.  The

amount of film exposure determines the exact dose of

radiation.  When I was in the Strategic Air Command I had to

wear one because the alert pad aircraft carried nuclear

weapons.  Our dosemeters were checked weekly.  If the

dosemeter indicated that you had been exposed to radiation

then you had to go through a decontamination procedure.

During my time in service my dosemeter never indicated any

exposure to radiation.  This explanation is offered for those

of you who may not have known what a dosemeter is.)