Info-ParaNet Newsletters December 30th 1990

  

                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 342

 

                           Sunday, December 30th 1990

 

Today's Topics:

 

                                    Mars Face

                                       FYI

                         RE: Super 8 film light streaks

                           Re: Paranet Newsletter 341

                        Re: Resonant Gravity Field Coils?

                      Re: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit

                                 Couldn't resist

                             Bas Predictions Review

                          Part 2 Bas Predictions Review

                           Re: Paranet Newsletter 341

                          Belgian Ufo/hard Copy Segment

                                       FYI

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From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)

Subject: Mars Face

Date: 27 Dec 90 04:02:16 GMT

 A 30 minute video program based on Hoagland's studies of the "Mars Face" will

be broadcast via the Weststar 4 satellite as part of the NASA Lewis (Cleveland)

Educational Television Series. The program will be broadcast at 12 noon on

January 6, 1991 and should be accessible to anyone with a satellite dish.

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)

Subject: FYI

Date: 26 Dec 90 19:14:09 GMT

 > looks like the good folks at Rockwell, builders of the American

 > B-2 Bomber may SUE the good folks at "STEALTH CONDOM."

  Seems to me I came across that in the local newspaper too. Funny. 

Wonder if the Stealth Condom is triangular?  ;-)

                                           jbh

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From: pecan.cray.com!keith

Subject: RE: Super 8 film light streaks

Date: 29 Dec 90 01:43:08 GMT

From: keith@pecan.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks)

If anyone has access to copies (or originals) of the frames where

light streaks appear, would you please contact me.

It should be quite easy to tell the difference between exposure due to

electrical discharge and exposure due to reflected light of an

object. (with the originals)

Telling the difference between light streaks due to movement of the

camera or due to fast moving objects is more difficult.  Here it will

be interesting to see the streak structure.  It would of course be

very difficult to produce extremely complex patterns ``painting

with streetlights'' as has been suggested. (originals might not be

necessary for this analysis).

-keith

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From: cwns2.ins.cwru.edu!xx044

Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 341

Date: 29 Dec 90 03:07:48 GMT

From: xx044@cleveland.freenet.edu (UFOlogy SIG)

        Wow, I've been off the board for a while due to a heavy

work commitment.  I am very impressed with how things have

progressed over this time.  Hope to hear more from you.  Great

stuff!

                        Rick Dell'Aquila

                        Co-sysop (aa441)

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From: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)

Subject: Re: Resonant Gravity Field Coils?

Date: 29 Dec 90 03:07:00 GMT

>Someone posted a very interesting article to the Usenet newsgroup

>sci.skeptic recently.  It was a description of, and plans for, a device

>called a Resonant Gravity Field Coil that allegedly could do things that

>sounded like a mix of Lazar and the Philadelphia Experiment.

>Has anyone seen this file, and can you identify the authors?  Has anyone

>seen any files describing similar devices or theories?  (I

>the Tesla BBS, could it have come from there?)  And of course the most

>important thing -- could any of it be true?

James, I have seen a file similar to the one you describe.  It will be 

available on my BBS within a week or so, along with numerous similar papers 

and, hopefully, schematics.

Word is that concentric toroidal coils can work as described.  I have not 

built one personally.  I am aware of one person who seems to have been 

experimenting with them who suffered severe psychological sideeffects and 

ultimately died as a result of a very unusual lab accident.  Similar 

sideeffects are a matter of record in other high-energy pioneers, notably 

Tesla.  In some circles, the word is that Jack Parsons was 

fooling around with similar technologies at the time of his death.   My 

point is that the danger attached toof the device seems to be quite real 

and, worse, very unpredictable.  Fair warning.

You know your Allende!

I work in Edison, by the way.  The number of my BBS -- the Wrong Number BBS 

-- will be announced here in due course, as soon as I complete the file base 

and am assured that the mailer will function reliably.  So stay tuned for a 

local access number.

Best,

  Clark  

 

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From: pecan.cray.com!keith

Subject: Re: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit

Date: 30 Dec 90 00:16:37 GMT

From: keith@pecan.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks)

-Thank you for _clarifying_ some of John's points. However, I don't perceive 

-that he was so far off the mark to deserve such a pointed rejoinder from you. 

-Perhaps you can explain for us laymen how your clarifications have invalidated 

-John's basic point? And please remember, we're all trying to achieve the same 

-goal here. Wouldn't it be nice if people just tuning in for the first 

-time could see that disagreements can be discussed in a gentlemanly fashion? 

Jim,

Alas, I have fallen into that trap that we all too often fall into.

That is, the trap of wanting to show how smart we are when a topic

comes up about which we know something.

This is not a debating contest.  (Or, that is not the intent).

I was just seeking to impart information to this net.

Correct me if I am wrong, but, a clarification, (as you have

correctly identified), does not necessitate invalidation.  I hope

that I did not imply that John's remarks are not valid.

I think that points out another danger on the net, and particularly

on Paranet.  That is, people seeking to validate and invalidate.

In my opinion this is the trap that the holier-than-thou pedantic

skeptic continues to fall into (myself included).

All too often we tend for convienience to polarize our data into

``right'' and ``wrong'' when in fact it may be partly right and partly

wrong.  Unlike the hardcore skeptic, I suggest that we suspend judgement

for a while on some of these things that are in a gray area.

And there are so many things on Paranet that are neither black or white.

As for your suggestion to discuss things in a ``gentlemanly fashion''

I agree in principle with your statement, but would perhaps dust

off some of the patriarchal trimmings.  The use of the male gender

in text like this is probably inappropriate nowadays.

-keith

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Keith Fredericks, Cray Research Inc., 655F Lone Oak Dr., Eagan, MN 55121

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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Couldn't resist

Date: 30 Dec 90 03:50:00 GMT

I transferred two pieces of mail that Rick Moen of the Bay 

Area Skeptics uploaded to ParaNet Predictions Registry. I 

found it very interesting and informative.

Thanks Rick.

Mike

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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Bas Predictions Review

Date: 30 Dec 90 03:46:00 GMT

 * Forwarded from "ParaNet International Predictions "

 * Originally from Rick Moen

 * Originally dated 12-29-90 02:45

[part one of two]

Press Release -- December 1990 -- For Immediate Release

Contacts: Yves Barbero    415-285-4358

          Robert Steiner  415-235-5516

          Robert Sheaffer 408-379-2854, 408-492-2000

Bay Area Skeptics, 4030 Moraga, San Francisco, CA 94122 U.S.A.

PSYCHICS' PREDICTIONS FIZZLE FOR 1990

Jackie Onassis did not marry the young rock star Jon Bon Jovi.  A

tidal wave did not flood Manhattan.  A meteorite did not land in

the White House Rose Garden, and a cure was not found for the

common cold.  These are just a few of the many predictions that

had been made for 1990 by famous "psychics", but were dead wrong,

as chronicled by the _Bay Area Skeptics_.

At the end of each year, many well-known "psychics" issue

predictions for the coming year.  Twelve months later, they issue

another set of predictions, conveniently forgetting those they

made the year before, which are always nearly 100% wrong.  Each

year, however, the Bay Area Skeptics dig up the predictions made

the year before, to the embarrassment of those who made them.

Many of the "psychic" predictions made are so vague that it is

impossible to say if they came true or not:  For example, Jeane

Dixon's prediction that "secrets will weigh heavily" on

Vice-President Dan Quayle is not obviously true or false.  Many

other "predictions" involve things that happen every year, or

else are not difficult to guess, such as hurricanes along the

Gulf Coast, marital strife for Charles and Diana, or terrorist

incidents.  Many "predictions" simply state that ongoing events

and trends will continue, such as economic uncertainty, or

conflict in the Middle East.

Other supposed "predictions" are not really predictions at all,

but are actually disclosures of little-known events that are

already under way, such as movie productions, business ventures,

or developing scandals.  Because questionable claims of having

made an amazing prediction frequently are made in the wake of

major news stories, the Bay Area Skeptics only evaluates

predictions that were widely known before the events they claimed

to foretell.  While some predictions did of course come true,

especially those that were unspecific, or not at all difficult to

guess, not _one_ prediction that was both specific _and_

surprision came true.

The famous Washington, D.C. "psychic" Jeane Dixon, who supposedly

has a "gift of prophesy", predicted that George Bush's "greatest

challenge" would come this summer when he would be forced to make

"life-and-death decisions about troubles in Latin America and

China".  While those regions were relatively quiet this summer,

Dixon somehow failed to foresee Bush having any trouble with

Iraq.  "The worst stock market drop of the year will come in

mid-April", she predicted; it actually occurred from August

through mid-October.  She also warned that the West Coast "will

be shaken again by an October earthquake" which will "bring a

volcano to life" [_The Star_, Jan. 16, 1990].

St. Louis "psychic" Beverly Jaegers, who claims to be able to

make accurate stock market predictions, predicted that defrocked

evangelist Jimmy Bakker would become a "hunted fugitive" after an

escape from prison, and that Madonna would get pregnant from an

affair with Pee-Wee Herman [_National Enquirer_, July 3, 1990].

In Chicago, "psychic" Irene Hughes predicted that Jacqueline

Onassis would tie the knot with rock star Jon Bon Jovi, that

Bryant Gumbel would be fired from the "Today" show after an ugly

bar-room brawl, and that Chuck Norris would lead a group of

mercenaries in a successful attack on a Colombian drug field

[_National Enquirer_, Jan. 2, 1990].

[continued to part two...]

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Regards,                Speaking for Bay Area Skeptics?  Aye.

Rick Moen, Secretary    Anyone else?  Nay.

Bay Area Skeptics

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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Part 2 Bas Predictions Review

Date: 30 Dec 90 03:46:00 GMT

 * Forwarded from "ParaNet International Predictions "

 * Originally from Michael Corbin

 * Originally dated 12-29-90 16:37

The second part of Rick Moen's posting got mangled.  Here it is:

Rick Moen

All

Bas Predictions review

29 Dec 90 02:45:20

[part two of two]

Los Angeles "psychic" Marie Graciette predicted that the largest

earthquake ever recorded would strike the sea bed near New York

City, sending in a tidal wave that would flood Manhattan

[_National Enquirer_, July 3, 1990].  A meteorite would land in

the White House Rose Garden, endangering the First Family by the

levels of radiation it emits.  (Meteorites are primarily made of

iron and nickel, which are not radioactive.)  She also predicted

that Japanese scientists would discover a cure for the common

cold while investigating the ink spewed out by squid [_National

Enquirer_, Jan. 2, 1990].

Southern Californian Clarisa Bernhardt, who claims to make

"incredibly accurate" earthquake predictions, foresaw that Barbra

Streisand would go to Cuba and wind up in a "sizzling" romance

with Fidel Castro [_National Enquirer_, July 3, 1990].  She also

predicted that the Major Leagues would have their first female

baseball player, whose skill would make her a superstar

[_National Enquirer_, Jan. 2, 1990].

Here in Northern California, "Psychic Astrologer" Terrie Brill of

Redwood City predicted five years ago [_San Francisco Examiner_,

Dec. 16, 1985] that 1990 would absolutely be the year that a

massive earthquake would reshape the California coastline.  "If

there was doubt [about this prediction], I'd say there was

doubt", she reaffirmed to the reporter.  This past December, she

predicted that Oprah Winfrey would marry, that Manuel Noriega

(who was then holed up in the Vatican Embassy in Panama) would be

released, but not to the United States, and would be killed by a

Panamanian before six months had passed [_San Francisco

Examiner_, Dec. 28, 1990].  Brill charges her clients $195 an

hour for predictions such as these.  Twelve months ago, Brill went

on record predicting an earthquake that would make the Bay Area

"fall into the ocean" during 1991 [_San Jose Mercury-News_, Jan.

1, 1990], but in view of her previous dismal track record, the

Bay Area Skeptics see no cause for alarm.

Based on the continuing failure of the "psychics" to make

accurate predictions over the years, the Bay Area Skeptics urge

everyone -- including the press -- to exercise some healthy

skepticism when "psychics" and other purveyors of the paranormal

make extraordinary claims or predictions.  Anyone who swallows

the "psychics'" claims year after year, without checking the

record, is setting a bad example for students and for the public.

It is important to note that no "psychic" succeeded in predicting

the genuinely _surprising_ news stories of 1990:  the invasion

and occupation of Kuwait by Iraq; Hussein's holding of thousands

of foreign hostages as "human shields"; George Bush saying yes to

"new taxes"; and the stunning electoral defeat of the Sandinistas

in Nicaragua.  These major news stories were so unanticipated

that someone would have had to be truly "psychic" to have

predicted them.  Given the number of so-called "psychics" out

there, one would expect that at least a few of them would have

correctly predicted these -- unless, of course, all such claims

of "psychic powers" are without foundation.

The _Bay Area Skeptics_ is a group of people from all walks of

life who support the critical examination of paranormal claims,

such as psychic powers, UFOs, astrology, Bigfoot, biorhythms,

etc.  Similar skeptics' organizations are active in many other

areas of the country, including Southern California, New York,

Colorado, Illinois, Arizona, Texas, and Ohio.  The Committee for

the Scientific Examination of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP)

is an international skeptics' organization, made up of many

famous writers, scientists, and investigators, such as Martin

Gardner, Stephen Jay Gould, James "The Amazing" Randi, Isaac

Asimov, and many others.  Similar skeptics' groups have also been

formed in many foreign countries, including Australia, Canada,

France, the United Kingdom, Mexico, and India.  These groups

cooperate in making their findings available to other

researchers, and to the public.

For more information about the activities of the Bay Area

Skeptics, you can call their recorded message line at

415-LA-TRUTH.

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Regards,                Speaking for Bay Area Skeptics?  Aye.

Rick Moen, Secretary    Anyone else?  Nay.

Bay Area Skeptics

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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 341

Date: 30 Dec 90 03:47:00 GMT

 > From: cwns2.ins.cwru.edu!xx044@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM

 > Date: 29 Dec 90 03:07:48 GMT

 > Message-ID: <9350@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>

 > Newsgroups: info.paranet

 >

 > From: xx044@cleveland.freenet.edu (UFOlogy SIG)

Welcome back, Rick!  Glad to see you in here finally.

Hope to see lots of participation from you and your group in 

Cleveland.

Mike

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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)

Subject: Belgian Ufo/hard Copy Segment

Date: 27 Dec 90 15:21:00 GMT

 * Replying to a message originally to Don Ecker

 MC>  > Clark, a very interesting idea. If you are serious

 MC>  > let's see what kind of response we get to that idea.

 MC>  >

 MC>  > The address to Hard Copy is;

 MC>  >

 MC>  > Hard Copy

 MC>  > 5555 Melrose Ave.

 MC>  > Los Angeles, CA 90038.

 MC>  >

 MC>  > The producer of that segment was a guy named Dean

 MC>  > Vallas. So what does everyone else think?

 MC> 

 MC> Let's get this rolling, gang.

 MC> 

 MC> Mike

 MC> 

 MC> --- FD 1.99c

 MC>  * Origin: ParaNet Information Service -- Leading UFO

 MC> Research Network (9:1010/

Mike, I think thats a excellent ideal but it would be better if we 

could all write the major networks like 20/20 that has a vast 

veiwing audience. These are the shows that won't show this type of 

material because of reasons that are unknown to us. Hard Copy was 

taken off the air at prime time in this area and is now shown at 

6:00 am in the morning. It has very little audience at this time.

         73's      ---Jim---

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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)

Subject: FYI

Date: 27 Dec 90 15:26:01 GMT

 * Replying to a message originally to All

 DE> From the "I'm Not Sure It's Real, But If So...........

 DE> Dept."

 DE> 

 DE> I have just been informed by Mr. Dave Aaron, Video Dave of

 DE> the UFO Clearinghouse of the following.

 DE> 

 DE> If you have read Vol. 5 No. 6 of UFO Magazine, and have

 DE> been following the B-2 Bomber vis a vis UFO technology....

 DE> well it looks like the good folks at Rockwell, builders of

 DE> the American B-2 Bomber may SUE the good folks at "STEALTH

 DE> CONDOM." Yep, that is right, Stealth Condom. . . not

 DE> Condominium! as in housing, but condom as in a rubber

 DE> product. It would appear that the folks at Rockwell are

 DE> taking a proprietary interest in the name of Stealth! As

 DE> the story is unfolding, a leading Condom manufacturer was

 DE> going to market a "Stealth Condom" and Rockwell felt the

 DE> URGE  to stop it at  the court level!  Guess you can't tell

 DE> where that sneaky little ol' Stealth will turn up.

 DE> 

 DE> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 DE> 

 DE> Don

 DE> 

 DE> --- FD 1.99c

 DE>  * Origin: ParaNet Alpha-Delta < sm > The Data Base

 DE> (1:30163/22)

Don, was the purpose of these new condoms for guys that don't want 

their you no what to be seen? Or for the boys in MJ--.

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