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From: SML108@psuvm.psu.edu (Scott the Great)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: INFO: How to join with aliens
Message-ID: <91174.152715SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: 23 Jun 91 19:27:15 GMT
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From: sof3@ztivax.UUCP (Walter Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.space
Subject: Re: Mars Observer Left without me !!
Message-ID: <5662@ztivax.UUCP>
Date: 24 Jun 91 08:10:47 GMT
References: <1991Jun6.181521.18082@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
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carlos@beowulf.JPL.NASA.GOV (Carlos Carrion) writes:
} jenkins@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (Steve Jenkins) writes:
} >dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
} >>...taken by Viking 1 in 1976. Hoagland believes the Mars observer
} >>spacecraft was deployed by the Space Shuttle "Atlantis" on
} >>mission STS-38.
} >
} >Wow! I guess we better get busy with the Mars Observer telemetry
} >system. It's not scheduled for ground testing until later this year.
} >
} Wait Up!! I've only just released the Mars Orbit Insertion
} Sequence to the Flight Team, and MO has been launched already (and
} by the Shuttle!) ??
Carlos! Steve! Like dudes, get it together! Don Allen is an obvious
genius who REALLY knows these things. I mean, we must have been out
to lunch regarding Phobos, right!?!
So, maybe JPL could save a whole lot of money by hiring Don Allen to
contact the aliens and just TELL us all about the other planets. Then
we could just go to the beach...
I was thinking about hacking TASS to support author kill like RN, but
on second thought, with dona in this group I don't need the NatEnq
for comedy!
David Smyth
Object X Guru
Reliable email address coming soon!
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From: mcripps@sodium.att.com (16AW20000[ehs]-Mike Cripps(HO0000)T100)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mars face.
Message-ID: <1991Jun24.023114.8269@sodium.att.com>
Date: 24 Jun 91 02:31:14 GMT
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In article <Hguu41w164w@themax.bison.mb.ca>, system@themax.bison.mb.ca (Max Vernon) writes:
> >
> Either way, this is all speculation, and I believe
> if an extraterrestrial race of even mild intelligence wanted to leave us a
> message of ANY sort, I believe they would do it in a way that would leave no
> doubt about their existence.
I agree. Why do a face, when you could have put 40 foot high letters of
fire ( :-) ) on Mars saying "Kilroy was here" (so to speak). This assumes
that the aliens had writing, but that's probably not that great of an
assumption. Even if we couldn't read the writing, It ought to be obvious.
Or why not a bunch of prime numbers? Maybe boulders or pits or something
arranged in groups of prime numbers.
Seems to me a stylized face is a pretty vague way to communicate...
BTW--I must say that the .gif I have of the Mars face doesn't look very
much like a face to me at all. Quite honestly, I think one of us here
is hallucinating, and it's not me :-)
Mike Cripps
AT&T or NCR, take your pick...
mcripps@sodium.att.com
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From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mars face.
Message-ID: <1991Jun24.184204.16366@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
Date: 24 Jun 91 18:42:04 GMT
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Bias Alert: I'd be very surprised if the Mars face is a
product of intelligence, aside from that of the viewers.
If *I* were going to build a durable passive structure to
indicate my passing by, and I had spaceflight, I'd put the sucker
on the Moon, not Mars. Erosion is lots slower on the Moon. If I wanted
to make seeing it a bit harder, I'd put it on farside, or in a medium
requiring high tech to see (A portrait in magnetic anomolies or long-half
life radioactives, perhaps).
James Nicoll
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From: wt0b+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Henry Timmins)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mars face.
Message-ID: <UcNZAEi00WAx0dkUVI@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 24 Jun 91 20:16:16 GMT
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Well, if the aliens were here as little as 3000 years ago, they could
have learned one of the major languages and written a message in big
letters (hieroglyphics?) on the surface...
Sure, we might not be able to read it right away, but it would
DEFINATELY be a message...
First sentence should be "We aren't Egyptians" just to clear up confusion...
-Me
[Pooh Bear incarnate.]
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From: IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (The Xanadian)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Lost my password...(IO00671)
Message-ID: <91176.113041IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Date: 25 Jun 91 15:30:41 GMT
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I was talking with someone on another account (this is a friend's
account). I last sent him a letter and have been waiting for a reply.
However, whether or not I received a letter from him or not, I cannot
tell, since I forgot my password (I changed it recently). I will not
be able to find it out until September. My original account # was
IO00671 (The Doctor). I hope that the person I was talking to, if he
is reading this
(I dont remember his address either... boy what a memory!) would forward
all letters to this address until September.
I have proof that I was the same person he sent the first letter to.
Please respond by email. Thank you.
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From: UMASP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mars face.
Message-ID: <91177.011843UMASP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Date: 26 Jun 91 05:18:43 GMT
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In article <1991Jun24.023114.8269@sodium.att.com>, mcripps@sodium.att.com
(16AW20000[ehs]-Mike Cripps(HO0000)T100) says:
>
{Stuff deleted}
>
>BTW--I must say that the .gif I have of the Mars face doesn't look very
>much like a face to me at all. Quite honestly, I think one of us here
>is hallucinating, and it's not me :-)
>
>Mike Cripps
>AT&T or NCR, take your pick...
>mcripps@sodium.att.com
I have the mars face gif also. To me it looks like one of
the Cybermen from the Dr Who series. Am I right, or what?
George Newell
umasp@maine.maine.edu
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From: timpson@shodha.enet.dec.com (Steve Timpson)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mars face.
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Date: 26 Jun 91 13:33:37 GMT
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In article <91177.011843UMASP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, UMASP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes...
>
>I have the mars face gif also. To me it looks like one of
>the Cybermen from the Dr Who series. Am I right, or what?
>
>George Newell
>umasp@maine.maine.edu
OH MY GOD!!!!! Aluminum Foil I need More Aluminum Foil!!!
Steve 8^)
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From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Questions about PROTECTION
Message-ID: <1991Jun22.160815.22137@bilver.uucp>
Date: 22 Jun 91 16:08:15 GMT
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In article <1991Jun20.230539.19833@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> anachem@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (mark s gilstrap) writes:
>In article <1991Jun20.210043.21547@pmafire.inel.gov> jeffl@servprod.inel.gov (Jeff Later) writes:
>>
>>While there is a great deal of information regarding UFO abductions, victims
>>and types of dangers associated with "visitors/intruders",
>>I have not found a single source for information regarding PERSONAL DEFENCE!
>>I have tried contacting a few of the more "knowledgeable" and "serious"
>>members of this group regarding the following questions, to no avail.
>>Perhaps they would feel more inclined to respond in a more "public forum".
>>
Pardon me folks for a "quickie" here:
******************************************************************
It's hard to respond to you Jeff, when I keep getting mail bounces.
Don't automatically assume that you are getting a brush-off; there's
more mundane explanations such as listed above :-)
My mailer (Elm) does NOT recognize --->> jeffl@servprod.inel.gov << ---
as a -valid- address. Perhaps you need to check into that on your end.
*meanwhile back to our normally scheduled follow-up***************
>>1. IS there ANYTHING one can do to protect himself and his family
>> from becoming victims of an "alien" abduction?
>>
> This may be a very unpopular viewpoint.
[ Many lines deleted ]
> If you are trully wanting to overcome the damage and threats
>of these psychic visitations, and if you trully believe the words you
>say, this prayer will be effective. You need no other protection than to
>get yourself out of such deceptions and into the life of grace in the
[ Many more lines deleted ]
>>
> You are totally helpless, yourself. But there is protection
> available.
>
>>5. Is there ANY way or means one can tell if he or his family or friends
>> have been victims, or have "implants"?
>>
> There are many signs and manifestations of the psychic distur-
> bances one may experience. The discernment of an experienced
> monastic or priest are to be preferred over our often deceived
> opinions.
>
I left the relevant quoted sections as I believe they are good advice.
This is also a controversial viewpoint :-) It's my opinion that we are
in the "last days" so we can expect many more visitations from the skies,
some of these "visits" are definately not from beings that have our best
interests at heart (to put it mildly).
It's also my opinion that these "watchers"/Nephilim/Greys are indeed
physical manifestations of the "fallen" angels. If you will note, when
reading materials pertaining to cattle mutilations,human abductions,
that these "beings" do not seem to exhibit any emotion towards our species
which is beneficial. To the contrary, we are like lab rats to them (apparently)
and they do not seem to understand that it is NOT "alright" to terrorize
human beings by their abductions and "examinations".
This subject is both a delicate and complex at the same time. Most people
haven't been properly made aware that EBE (Extra-terrestrial Biological
Entities..ie.."aliens") have been visiting our shining orb and our
wonderfully paranoid and (sometimes) overly protective,secretive GOVT
hasn't been ANY help at all. Contrast *our* GOVT's clammed-up attitude
about UFO's in general with that of Belgium, or the Soviet Union.
I'll believe that "swamp gas" are UFO's the day I believe that Meaden's
"plasma vortex theory" or other meteorological nonsense creates the
wonderfully intelligent crop circle patterns, which is to say, that
*those* (IMHO) "explanations" are absolute rubbish.
I am not exactly what you would call a rank and file "religious" person.
I DO, however have strong beliefs in GOD and in the LIGHT in general.
I see nothing at all wrong with developing such attitudes as a form of
protective armor which can be utilized against any lower-vibrational
creatures such as the greys,etc..I am aware of some cases where others
who were being terrorized by the greys/watchers *did* utilize such means
and the EBE's actually FLED the scene.
Conventional means of protection (guns,etc) would be rendered useless by
an alien technology. In "Communion", Whitley Strieber had an elaborate
alarm setup in his upstate NY residence. It *didn't* prevent nor go off
when the aliens came to get him.
I will scout my files for so more info on this topic.
Don
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From: ul'v@near.mars.edu (ul'v armaaten)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Time for another dinner at Ken's
Message-ID: <1991Jun26.192359.18757@near.mars.edu>
Date: 26 Jun 91 19:30:39 GMT
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Boy was Mom pissed at me last year. She yanked my computer access
for a whole orbit of the planet you call Jupiter. Grounded! Bummer!
Just cuz I ran fifteen peoples Marshall Fields cards up to the max.
Made me give it all back and do that peace march in Hungary too.
Anyway, now I'm off to college, and I've got access to this awesome
17 TeraMIP computer that makes my old 6 GigaMIP computer at home seem
like a snail. Mom can't yank my electricity-credits here. NYAH NYAH.
Anyway, the reason I'm writing is to tell you all that it's bis'n t'
zng, which, loosely translated, means, Spring Break. Totally Awesome!
Anyway, so, like, I plan to hit Ken's Pancake House again, cuz it was
such a great success last time. The one on El Camino Real, in Silicon
Valley. You know the one I'm talking about. The same one as last year.
Yeah, well, you'll figure it out. I'll be wearing dark glasses, with
a neon orange T-shirt, black spandex biking shorts, brown hair (this week),
and a diamond stud in my ear. On the hetero side (this week).
If you're interested, drop on by and we'll party, and you can let me know,
you know, how my valley dude accent is, like ya know. And then we can
bop out to Santa Cruz and do sumpin like surf or ride the roller coaster.
Okay?
Later daze.
BTW guys, you know, the face on Mars, it's like a, what you would call
a Senior prank, ya know. Class of (your year) 1932 did it. Cool, huh?
Hieroglyphics? Stacking rocks in prime numbered piles? Nah! Too easy.
Then there'd be no doubt. It's more fun to keep you wondering. If you'd
get rid of that War Weenie Wimp you have for a President, and devote your
energy to getting your butts up here, then you'd know for sure.
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From: BUSBH@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: CONFESS NOW!!
Message-ID: <91177.161717BUSBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: 26 Jun 91 20:17:17 GMT
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How can anyone be afraid of little aliens anyway. Yeesh! They're like
roaches, just step on them, for gosh sake. And this 666 stuff, simply
alien propaganda. Who's Bob, another alien in disguise? You folks are
very creative, yuck. I will have to send you back to universe grade
school to re-learn your space ABC's.
The Guardian of the Universe
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From: BUSBH@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: MARS FACE
Message-ID: <91177.162511BUSBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: 26 Jun 91 20:25:11 GMT
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They are not extinct, you are the aliens from Mars. Evolution and the
stronger gravity of earth has changed your race to its present form.
The face is a reminder of what your race once looked like.
Th Guardian of the Universe
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From: ma903475@levels.sait.edu.au
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Subject: alt.alien.visitors
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Date: 27 Jun 91 06:17:53 GMT
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Z
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From: ma903475@levels.sait.edu.au
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Subject: alt.alien.visitors
Message-ID: <16502.286a0c0a@levels.sait.edu.au>
Date: 27 Jun 91 06:32:18 GMT
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Merda!!!
e que ninguen fala galego ou castelan?
please, say something in castillian or galician!
for my sake, otherwise I miss a lot, and I am very
interested in the subject.
saludos from quique, presently living down under,
el culo del mundo!!!!!!
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From: kim@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Mingoo Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Area 51?
Keywords: What is Area 51?
Message-ID: <Jun.27.10.27.49.1991.7091@galaxy.rutgers.edu>
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Did anyone happened to see "Current Affair" on Fox, a few days ago? There was
a report about military base named Area 51, located in Arizona, that was
secretly holding a UFO.
It's not a secret anymore because a physicist working there told couple of his
friends that there were conducting experiments on the UFO, and the word spred,
according Current Affair. The physicist no longer works there anymore, of
course. According to him, the military was actually flying (?) the UFO.
Does anyone any info of this military base? Is this valid or is this just one
of those reports just to get more viewers for Fox? I saw people actually
sitting around the base just to get a glimpse of the UFO. Where exactly is
this military base?
mingoo k
rutgers university
kim@andromeda.rutgers.edu
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From: dfs30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Denise Solis)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: The Book to Read!
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Date: 27 Jun 91 16:14:19 GMT
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I just bought the book "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley.
All I can say is if you want to blow your mind away buy this book.
He talks about alien visitations throughout history and how he
believes they misrepresented themselves as gods and angels to exert
control over humankind.
The real thought provoking concept is that he believes that we were
created by these beings for a purpose. He relates various creation
legends and uses excerpts from the Bible and ancient scrolls of
various people.
I find it really intresting reading. Anyone else out there read this?
--
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All poetry posted is Copyright protected.
Denise Solis - Amdahl Corp. dfs30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
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From: ul'v@near.mars.edu (ul'v armaaten)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Time for another dinner at Ken's
Message-ID: <1991Jun27.192359.18758@near.mars.edu>
Date: 28 Jun 91 00:49:52 GMT
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Boy did I drop the ball. Got all excited about this awesome babe walkin'
by and forgot to tell you when I'd be at Ken's.
Okay? So I'll be there tomorrow, that's Friday, be there about 5:00 pm.
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From: jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu (James Roger Black)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Review: UFO Crash at Roswell
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Date: 28 Jun 91 03:33:34 GMT
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Book Review: "UFO Crash at Roswell" by Kevin D. Randle and Donald
R. Schmitt (Avon Books, 1991), 327 pages.
(Reviewed by Michael Corbin and James R. Black, ParaNet
Information Service. Copyright 1991 by Michael Corbin and James
R. Black. All Rights Reserved.)
There are some books that everyone with an interest in UFOs
should own. "UFO Crash at Roswell" is one of them. Here, for the
first time, is a definitive answer to the long-standing question,
"Has the U.S. government ever recovered a crashed flying saucer?"
The answer is a resounding "Yes!"
The Story and the Evidence
--------------------------
In brief, "UFO Crash at Roswell" tells how an unidentified flying
object struck the earth on July 2, 1947 near Corona, New Mexico
during a violent thunderstorm; how the wreckage was found by a
local rancher and reported to the 509th Bomb Group at Roswell
Army Air Field; how the soldiers of the 509th gathered the
wreckage, discovered a second (and possibly a third) associated
crash site, took possession of four alien bodies, and transported
their finds to Los Alamos and Wright Field for analysis; and how
the military brass in the Eighth Air Force and the Pentagon
squelched the facts, disinformed the public, and suppressed
almost all discussion of the events for decades afterwards.
Such a story could easily be dismissed as the rankest sort of
sci-fi nonsense, and in its previous incarnations it has been so
dismissed by UFO believers and debunkers alike. When Charles
Berlitz and William L. Moore's "The Roswell Incident" made the
first tentative steps to cover this ground in 1980, it was
mercilessly derided and picked to pieces for its intrinsic
unbelievability and its lapses of both fact and logic. But Randle
and Schmitt know their history, and they were determined not to
repeat the mistakes of the past. Randle is a former helicopter
pilot and Air Force intelligence officer; Schmitt is Director of
Special Investigations for the Center for UFO Studies, one of the
oldest and most respectable of today's UFO organizations.
Together, over the course of almost three years, they interviewed
more than 200 witnesses, reviewed hundreds of documents, and
conducted the first scientific site visit by private citizens to
the crash site itself. The result is a mountain of proof which
will delight the true believer, astound the open-minded, and
hopefully give the debunkers a real run for their money.
Inevitably, much of the book is concerned with sometimes confused
tales of unearthly materials and alien bodies. But in our
estimation this is not the most important and convincing
evidence; much more telling is the downright strange behavior of
the government itself, both then and now. Witnesses can easily be
mistaken about esoteric technical issues outside their everyday
experience; it's much harder to misinterpret being threatened by
uniformed men carrying guns. The U.S. military has buried the
Roswell event under all the trappings of a full-blown government
coverup: the intimidation of witnesses, the destruction or
suppression of evidence, and a systematic campaign of lies and
disinformation to prevent the truth from becoming widely known.
The indisputable fact of the coverup itself is enough to
establish that Roswell is truly the tip of the "Cosmic Watergate"
iceberg.
The authors have anticipated the inevitable assault by debunkers
who "know" that the Roswell event cannot have happened as
described. They consider whether the Roswell crash can be
explained as nothing more than a downed weather balloon, or a
stray V-2 rocket nose cone, or a late-breaking Japanese balloon
bomb--and then firmly reject them all. In the end, only one
explanation remains: that in 1947 the New Mexico countryside
witnessed the crash of a vehicle that was "not of this world".
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
-------------------------------
"UFO Crash at Roswell" is not without its flaws. It was published
as a paperback original rather than in hardcover, which almost
inevitably means it will appear in few libraries and will garner
few serious reviews. The cover art (against the authors' wishes)
is a classic "daylight disk" photo which has been widely
denounced as a hoax and has nothing whatever to do with the
Roswell crash. The text is replete with typographical errors and
grammatical slips that even casual editing should have caught and
corrected. There are mangled and self-contradictory quotations
(some of which can be repaired by reference to repetitions of the
same material elsewhere in the book), and there are "backward
glances" to facts that have not yet been discussed. But these
represent a failure by the publisher to take the book seriously,
rather than a failure by the authors to write a book worth
reading.
Perhaps more disconcerting is the authors' decision to cover the
same ground four times from different perspectives: once in a
brief historical overview, once in a "just the facts" account of
the event itself, once in a blow-by-blow description of their
investigation, and finally once more in a day-by-day time line.
This occasionally gives the reader an annoying sense of "deja
vu", as well as making it difficult to know which part of the
book to search through for any particular detail.
On the positive side, the authors have taken a very professional
and forthright approach to their work. The contributions of
previous researchers are acknowleged (and, where necessary,
gently corrected); shortcomings in the evidence are freely
admitted; witnesses are named, and sources are documented. There
are detailed lists of interviewees and participants, a glossary,
a bibliography, extensive footnotes, and an index--all of which
will greatly assist anyone who wishes to verify their information
or to build on their efforts. One senses no "proprietary
interests" at work here, which is a welcome relief in a field
where information is often jealously guarded and cooperation
among researchers is all too rare.
Where Do We Go From Here?
-------------------------
"UFO Crash at Roswell" does not mark the end of crashed-disk
research; indeed, it is only the beginning. A moment's
consideration yields any number of avenues for further research,
some of which Randle and Schmitt are no doubt already pursuing:
(1) The material relating to the second and third crash sites,
the discovery of the alien bodies, and their final disposition at
the hands of the military is still sketchy and full of holes;
further research is definitely needed here, both to find more
witnesses and to establish precisely what happened and how it is
related to the primary site.
(2) Roswell is not the only rumored UFO crash; Randle and Schmitt
list a number of them in an appendix. These other alleged
incidents need to be investigated with the same vigor as the
Roswell crash, and conclusively verified or disproved.
(3) The role of Kirtland Air Force Base, not only in the Roswell
recovery and its coverup but in other landmark UFO events, needs
to be thoroughly investigated and documented. Kirtland crops up
over and over again in Randle and Schmitt's story--as a source of
orders and machinations outside the normal military chain of
command, as a transshipment point for material destined for the
labs at Los Alamos, as the place where secret scientific reports
on the crash were filed, and as the possible source of a military
mapping expedition near the crash site years afterwards. Given
the prominence of Kirtland in the infamous Bennewitz affair and
other disinformation operations which are known to have been
carried out by personnel of the Air Force Office of Special
Investigations, it seems highly significant that Kirtland appears
so early and so prominently in the Roswell case.
(4) As far as we know now, Roswell was the first recovery of a
crashed UFO; but there is reason to believe that the U.S.
government had, to say the least, already given the matter some
thought. The speed with which the military responded to the
initial report, the forethought shown by the arrangements for
transporting the wreckage, and the thoroughness with which the
witnesses were hushed up and the evidence eliminated, indicate
that the Roswell coverup was not an ad-hoc response to an
unexpected event but rather the outworking of a pre-arranged
plan. It remains to be seen whether this plan was formulated as
the result of prior experience in crashed-saucer retrievals or
was merely a contingency plan provoked by earlier encounters with
"foo fighters", "ghost rockets", and "green fireballs" in the
postwar years.
(5) The revelation by General Arthur Exon of the existence of a
UFO control group outside official channels once again raises the
spectre of MJ-12. Exon referred to the group as "the Unholy
Thirteen" for lack of a better name, but of course this could
easily mean nothing more than the twelve principals of MJ-12 plus
the President himself, to whom the control group undoubtedly
reported. While the controversy surrounding the MJ-12 briefing
paper should not be allowed to sully the Roswell event itself,
the semi-official acknowledgment that such a group once existed
(and presumably still exists) should add new fuel to the MJ-12
fire.
(6) There is a crying need to re-evaluate postwar history in
light of the now-established fact of the Roswell crash and
retrieval. If the U.S. government successfully recovered an alien
spacecraft, alien technology, and alien corpses in 1947, it
should have had a profound impact on high-tech research (several
witnesses described a material similar to modern fiber optics),
on foreign policy, and on the aerospace industry and the space
program--not to mention its effect on the government's attitude
toward the UFO problem itself. Just as the revelation of the
ultra-secret Enigma machine and the allies' successful cracking
of Axis codes has required a complete rethinking of the
historiography of World War II, so the Roswell event necessitates
a reinvestigation of almost everything that has happened in the
last 44 years.
(7) Finally, a host of questions remain unanswered about the
relationship between the Roswell crash and the "other half" of
the UFO equation: abductions, occult phenomena, cattle
mutilations, and all the rest. Roswell *looks* like the crash of
an extraterrestrial spacecraft; but that could be because the
event has been shaped to look that way, either by the government,
by the researchers, or by the forces behind the event itself. It
would be a grave error to conclude at this point that Roswell
establishes the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis as the only solution
to the UFO mystery. That something extraordinary happened at
Roswell is astonishingly clear. Its ultimate explanation and
significance are yet to be determined.
Conclusion
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If you have any interest in UFOs, go out and get a copy of this
book. Better yet, get two copies--one for yourself, and one to
loan out to your friends. You'll be glad you did.
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