Psychiatrists and psychologists with advanced degrees are investigating the mysterious realm of kundalini, UFOs and ghosts

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 _Dark Side of the Unknown_ by Patrick Huyghe.  (OMNI, ISSN 0149-8711,

 Copyright 1993 by Omni Publications International Ltd., 1965 Broadway,

 New York, NY 10023-5965.  Published monthly with a subscription rate of

 $24/yr.)

 

                        Psychiatrists and psychologists

            with advanced degrees are investigating the mysterious

                      realm of kundalini, UFOs and ghosts.

 

  Tell us about it. Terrorized by little gray creatures with large black

 eyes who whisk you away from your bedroom at night?  Plagued by

 poltergeists rattling the bookshelf and hurling pictures from the wall?

 Haunted by the ghost of a loved one, say, or precognitive dreams that

 turn suddenly real?  Whatever the nature of your encounter with the

 unknown, you may have been left physically drained or emotionally

 scarred.  Chances are, you've confided in no one, fearful friends and

 relatives would consider you insane.  So where do you turn?

 

  Actually, you have some options. You might, for instance, place your

 trust in someone who makes a business out of the unknown.  you saw the

 movie; you know the tune. Who you gonna call?  Ghostbusters!  If it's

 psychic troubles you've had, you call a parapsychologist.  And when it

 comes to possessions and visions and such, there's always the minister,

 rabbi, or parish priest.  On the plus side, you can be fairly confident

 these people will believe you.  On the other hand, if your trouble is

 even partially psychological, how much help would they be?

 

  That's where mainstream psychologists and psychiatrists come in. If

 you're hallucinating, they might have a treatment or cure.  But don't

 expect them to believe you.  They'll dismiss your story as a raving

 fantasy, and if you can't shake the episode, you may end up diagnosed

 with schizophrenia and on antipsychotic drugs.

 

  Not what you had in mind?  Then consider your third option: the new

 breed of mental-health professional now contending that such other

 worldly experiences are legitimate and commonplace among the sane.

 That's not to say they accept the reality of alien abductors or

 precognition or ghosts - though much to the horror of their colleagues,

 a few of them have.  But what many of these therapists have come to

 believe over the past five years is that such experiences - regardless

 of their cause - are common among normal, healthy people, and that those

 who find themselves traumatized by such episodes are just as deserving

 of psychological ministrations as those who suffer anxiety, depression,

 or the trauma that follows a plane crash or a rape.

 

  To signal the birth of this new discipline, some dedicated

 professionals have even formed a group known as TREAT, for clinicians

 and physical and behavioral scientists interested in the Treatment and

 Research of Expe ienced Anomalous Trauma.  TREAT, which holds a

 conference each spring, deals with everything from reports of UFO

 abduction and precognition to near-death episodes, satanic possession,

 and alleged contact with the dead.   Another favorite TREAT area is

 kundalini - often perceived as a burning. vibrating, or electrifying

 sensation associated with meditation or any other heavy duty spiritual

 chore.

 

  By all indicators, TREAT is a movement whose time has come.  Indeed,

 every national poll on the paranormal confirms just how widespread such

 experiences are.  A 1992 survey by the Roper Organization, for instance,

 suggests that 2 percent of the population, or 1 of every 50 adult

 Americans, exhibits the symptoms that sometimes mask a UFO abduction

 experience.  A 1987 study conducted by Andrew Greeley and colleagues at

 the University of Chicago showed that 42 percent of American adults

 reported contact with the dead, 67 percent claimed ESP experiences, and

 31 percent reported clairvoyance.  And a 1981 Gallup poll showed that an

 extraordinary 15 percent of all people revived from the cusp of death

 reported the spectacle of the near-death experience in which they

 glimpsed such generic signposts as beckoning loved ones or a tunnel of

 light.

 

  One must not, of course, mistake these experiences for proof of their

 reality.  "Truth should not be defined by what people believe," warns

 Harold Goldstein, a psychologist in the division of epidemiology and

 services research branch of the National Institutes of Mental Health.

 "Facts are facts.   Now it may turn out that there are aliens and such

 things, but there needs to be evidence for it, and belief is not

 evidence."

 

  Then again, say the professionals on the frontier of the new

 psychology, beliefs should not be dismissed.  "Paranormal experiences

 are so common in the general population," psychiatrists Colin Ross of

 Dallas and Shaun Joshi of Winnipeg, Canada, said in a recent issue of

 the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, "that no theory of normal

 psychology or psychopathology which does not take them into account can

 be comprehensive." Such experiences, they say, could be studied

 scientifically, "in the same way as anxiety. depression, or any other

 set of experiences" without making "any decision as to whether some,

 all, or none of them are objectively real."

 

 

 

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Subject: Abduction Article, 2/7

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  That may sound good in theory, but some observers wonder whether it's

 really possible in practice.  Therapists, it turns out, are no more

 immune to the potent lure of the unknown than any one else.  Unwary

 specialists of the human mind may, in fact, be particularly prone to

 accepting the reality of their patient's fascinating tales.   And

 enchantment can lead to obsession.  The psychoanalyst Robert Lindner

 admitted as much in 1955 after coming under the spell of a patient who

 provided detailed accounts of visits into the future reality of another

 planet.  To help the patient, Lindner studied the mass of written

 records Kirk had prepared, noted the inconsistencies, and confronted him

 with the errors.  That effort forced cracks in the fantasy and led,

 eventually, to Kirk's recovery.  But Lindner, meanwhile, become so

 absorbed in the story that he had difficulty extricating himself from

 its grip.  In his classic book, The Fifty-Minute Hour, he admits to

 skirting "the edges of the abyss."  Now, some 35 years later, the latest

 mental-health professionals to flirt with UFO abduction, the near-death

 experience, and psychic phenomena face this danger as well.

 

  One mental-health worker to dive headlong into the dark pit of the

 unknown in recent years is psychiatrist Rima Laibow.  Her sprawling

 office in the upscale Westchester County town of Hastings-on-Hudson, New

 York, is ringed with the big fluffy pillows she uses in holding therapy,

 originally designed to repair early attachment deficits in autistic

 children but now used with other serious chikdhood and adult problems as

 well.  Dressed in blue slacks and a blouse, her frizzy hair tossed to

 one side, Laibow recalls her first professional journey through the

 looking glass.  "lt was 1988," she explains, "and a patient whom I had

 known for many years came to me in a state of anxiety and panic because,

 out of the corner of her eye, she had caught sight of the cover of

 Communion."

 

  The patient, a 43-year-old cardiologist, had never read this 1987

 best-seller by horror novelist Whitley Strieber, didn't know that it

 concerned alleged encounters with UFO entities, and had never been

 interested in the subject of alien abduction at all.  Despite all this,

 after glimpsing the cover of Communion, she claimed terrifying memory

 fragments of encounters with creatures like those on the book's cover.

 

  "Such notions had always struck me as psychotic," Laibow explains,

 "but this patient taught me otherwise." Convinced that her patient

 showed no sign of major psychopathology, in fact, Laibow came up with a

 different diagnosis for the sudden breakdown the cardiologist

 experienced following recall of an alleged alien encounter:

 posttraumatic stress disorder, or PTSD.

 

  According to the most recent Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of

 Mental Disorders, PTSD is a stress reaction triggered by various

 external events "outside the range of usual human experience."

 Triggering events, the American Psychiatric Association's manual goes on

 to say, include such atrocities as rape, war, and natural disasters like

 earthquakes or floods, which are "usually experienced with intense fear,

 terror, and helplessness."  In fact, Laibow's patient met all the

 criteria for PTSD but one.  "There had been no known trauma," recalls

 Laibow, "so I thought, how could she have PTSD when we all know there

 couldn't possibly be an external event like an alien abduction could

 there?"

 

  Over the  weeks that followed, Laibow worked to quell her patient's

 anxiety and panic.  But the doctor herself remained genuinely puzzled.

 In search of answers, she read all the literature she could find on

 reported alien abductions and spoke to the primary investigators in the

 field: New York artist Budd Hopkins, who had written two books on the

 topic, and Temple University historian David Jacobs, who, like Hopkins,

 had become a kind of folk guru and de-facto therapist for UFO abduction

 victims.

 

  "What I found," Laibow states, "left me both impressed and appalled."

 She was impressed, she says, because "there's a substantial body of data

 suggesting that under some circumstances, at some times, for some

 reason, there are things in the atmosphere we call UFOs that appear to

 have external physical reality."  But she was appalled because from her

 "sad and shocking experience, UFOlogy as it exists today is little more

 than a collection of belief systems vying for dominance. The field is

 plagued by the notion that just collecting neat stuff is the same as

 doing research.  If I were the National Science Foundation, I wouldn't

 fund this research, either."

 

  Hoping to change all that, Laibow began by giving UFO abduction and

 the whole gamut of experience with unexplained phenomena a new, more

 respectable name.  "Experienced anomalous trauma," she called it, so

 that "professionals, who would otherwise stop listening because you've

 mentioned UFOs, parapsychology, and other weird things would now stop

 and process those three words in relation to each other and ask, 'Like

 what?' "

 

  The strategy worked.  In fact, with the name experienced anomalous

 trauma as a draw, Laibow found dozens of psychiatrists and Ph.D.

 psychologists intrigued by her ideas.  To take advantage of the

 momentum, she formed an umbrella organization for the Treatment and

 Research of Experienced Anomalous Trauma, or TREAT, and held the group's

 first meeting in May 1989.

 

 

 

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Subject: Abduction Article, 3/7

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  TREAT quickly attracted some big guns in the mental-health community.

 One was John Wilson.  A professor of psychology at Cleveland State

 University, Wilson is one of the pioneers in the field of posttraumatic

 stress disorder. He helped both to coin the term and to formulate a

 definition of the disorder as far back as 1980.  In the past two

 decades, Wilson has listened patiently to more than 10,000 people

 traumatized by somc major life event and has conducted major studies of

 PTSD in Vietnam combat veterans and victims of toxic exposure.

 

  Wilson's own curiosity with the unknown dates back to childhood, when

 a neighbor of his worked for Project Blue Book, the notorious Air Force

 effort responsible for investigating UFOs.  When the abduction

 phenomenon emerged, he began to wonder what symptoms the alleged victims

 would report.  "The most obvious answer," he says, "is that they would

 have PTSD."

 

  According to Wilson, in fact, those who report memories of UFO

 abduction find themselves in the same sort of psychologically stressful

 dilemma as those who have been exposed to invisible toxic contaminants

 such as hydrogen sulfide.  "They aren't sure about it," he explains,

 "not sure anybody is going to believe them, don't know how to stop it,

 and don't know how long it has gone on.  But the big difference is that

 those claiming a UFO abduction don't even know if it occurred for sure.

 If you've been exposed to a toxic chemical, you can usually have a

 toxicologist come and study your house, and they'll say, yeah, it's

 there, or it's not.  But someone who's had a UFO abduction experience

 can't point to the flying saucer or the little gray guy with the

 almond-shaped eyes.  That puts them in a really psychologically

 ensnaring position."  In fact, Wilson places UFO abductions and exposure

 to invisible toxic contaminants in the same general category of

 traumatic experiences as childhood sexual abuse and psychological

 torture, calling them examples of "hidden events" that may lead to PTSD

 but which often can't be proven real.

 

  Wilson isn't surprised by his colleagues' slow reception to anomalous

 trauma.  "Fifty years ago, mental-health professionals didn't believe in

 childhood abuse," Wilson notes.  "When kids or adults would report

 incest experiences, sexual molestation, or rape and went to see a

 mental-health professional, they were told, 'That's a fantasy; that

 doesn't happen; it can't be real.'  It wasn't until the Sixties that the

 American College of Pediatrics even did a study to find out what was

 going on.  And then, voila, it was out of the closet, and today we have

 hard data on childhood sexual abuse.  There is a parallel here to

 anomalous experience; whether it's UFO abduction or demon possession,

 our culture says no."

 

  But as far as Wilson is concerned, the cultural disbelief system will

 change as anomalous trauma becomes a diagnostic subcategory of PTSD.

 "American culture is on the leading edge of this material," he says,

 "and my prediction is that within five to ten years, the idea of

 experienced anomalous trauma will get the serious consideration it

 deserves."

 

  Indeed, with Wilson's stamp of approval and Laibow's promotional

 drive, other psychiatrists and psychologists have begun to come around.

 One already going that route is kundalini expert Bonnie Greenwell, a

 California-based psychotherapist and author of Energies of

 Transformation.  This "energy phenomenon," as Greenwell calls it, has

 been described by Hindu mystics and practitioners of Yoga as an

 "awakening" of spiritual energy that supposedly "sleeps" at the base of

 the spine.  But kundalini awakenings, considered the beginning of the

 process of enlightment by masters of the technique, can result in

 serious psychological disturbance as well.

 

  And that's where Creenwell comes in.  Even those seeking the kundalini

 experience can find it painful, she explains, and for those not

 expecting it, the experience can be a nightmare.  Indeed, those

 undergoing the kundalini experience don't seem to know what hit them

 because they are unaware that it might be triggered by anything from a

 physical trauma or emotional shock to a long-term spiritual practice or

 dose of LSD.  What's more, says Greenwell, the experience may be

 accompanied by visions and trances, the sensation of leaving the body,

 and alternating periods of ecstasy and despair, symptoms that could lead

 to pathological diagnoses by conventional shrinks.

 

  But Western medicine is not alone in its ignorance of kundalini,

 according to Greenwell.  Many spiritual teachers don't have a clue what

 to do with it, either. "Some teachers will tell them it can't be

 kundalini or it would feel good," she says.  "Others tell these people

 they're having a breakdown.  There are even cases in Buddhist retreats

 where people have been taken to psychiatric hospitals when they had a

 kundalini opening.  Many people who teach yoga or meditation are not

 developed to the extent that they have gone through this process

 themselves.  It's very unfortunate, and it's one of the major reasons I

 started doing what I do."

 

  Greenwell's craft includes helping those troubled by kundalini tap the

 positive aspects of the phenomenon while discarding the negative as

 quickly as they can.  "Once they understand the process as essentially

 positive in the long run," Greenwell says, "they are no longer afraid of

 it and can often work it out quite effectively on their own."

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Abduction Article, 4/7

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  One person Greenwell saw over come the problems of kundalini was

 Sarah, born after her father's death in 1918.  During childhood, Sarah

 spent numerous hours communing with her deceased father and as an adult

 used that same impulse to meditate.  Listening to high-frequency sound

 and visualizing the inside of her body, Sarah began feeling waves of

 kundalini along with terrifying visions:  In one, she was cut up piece

 by piece, and in another, her body was invaded by swords.  In the end,

 Sarah managed to control her terrors by expressing the creative energy

 of kundalini in the form of dreams, dance, movement, and art.

 

  Other clients, Greenwell adds, have been far more distressed by

 kundalini energy than Sarah.  In these severe cases, she notes, "the

 person struggles to get control of a body which involuntarily forces

 them into motions or freezes them in action, locks pain into the back

 and shoulders or into the site of any preexisting injury, and flushes

 them with intense heat and cold.  Such subjects occasionally fall into

 trance or report that they are leaving their body.  They may be blinded

 by lights upon entering a dark room or feel they're being electrocuted

 in bed."

 

  Depending upon who these people consult, says Greenwell, they may be

 diagnosed with any number of disturbances from schizophrenia to grand

 mal epilepsy.  That's just what happened to Cathy, who experienced

 periods of intense, trancelike states, extreme sensations of cold, and

 "unusual energy flows" moving upward from her feet to her hands.  Given

 medication for everything from psychosis to seizures, Cathy finally

 decided to abandon all conventional treatment and accept her symptoms as

 "spiritual" in nature, coming from energies beyond.  It was this

 acceptance, Greenwell claims, that resulted in an immediate improvement

 in Cathy's health and enabled her to give up antiseizure drugs and

 integrate her experiences in a positive way into her life.

 

  Greenwell probably sees more patients with kundalini problems than

 therapists on the East coast, perhaps because kundalini is largely a

 California phenomenon.  The high percentage of meditators out West, she

 concedes, means "you have a lot of people primed for the experiences."

 

  Those who suffer from spiritual traumas, kundalini or otherwise, can

 also access another West Coast resource the Soquel, California-based

 Spiritual Emergence Network, or SEN, a telephone referral service

 (408-464-8261) founded by Christina Grof, who with her husband,

 Stanislav, pioneered research on the altered state.  "We get about 150

 calls a month" says Deane Brown, a therapist and the Network's program

 director.  "People call us when something is happening that they don't

 understand.  The volunteers who answer the phone come from a variety of

 backgrounds and many of them have experienced some critical or

 frightening period of spiritual emergence of their own.  So they can

 truthfully say to the caller, 'I know what you're going through; I've

 been there.'  What we do, essentially, is listen.  That's the greatest

 gift that we can give to a caller.  We don't judge the content of what

 they say.  We respond to the feeling rather than the content. We never

 diagnose."

 

  After talking to the caller for a while, SEN volunteers provide the

 name and number of one of the 500 people in the SEN database.  These

 people range from psychiatrists and psychologists who are familiar with

 the SEN philosophy of "spiritual emergence" to shamans, psychics,

 healers, or clergy in the troubled caller's area.

 

  "The types of calls seem to go in cycles," notes Brown.  "We will

 often get a lot of the same calls at about the same time from all over.

 For a while we may get a lot of kundalini calls.  Then we may get a lot

 of psychic opening, including out-of-body experiences, telepathy, and

 uncanny coincidences.  Other callers report possession, psychic attack

 by demons, and the like."

 

  Despite the common goals of workers like Greenwell and Laibow,

 however, the TREAT movement has run into some trouble of its own.  The

 reason: Laibow's strong resistance to the pioneering group of workers

 without professional credentials who aided the spiritually traumatized

 in the first place, years before it became fashionable for those with

 degrees.  The biggest rift was caused by her refusal to accept artist

 Budd Hopkins, author of the classic volumes Missing Time and Intruders,

 and the individual who brought the plight of UFO abductees to the

 attention of physicians and the general public when everyone else was

 ignoring them or calling them insane.  Laibow's beef: Hopkins and others

 had been hypnotizing the alleged abductees to elicit their tales, and

 they had no business doing so "since their formal training amounted to

 just about nil." Such "wannabe clinicians," she believes, can be very

 dangerous, indeed.

 

  Says Laibow, "There's a huge difference in being able to induce a

 hypnotic trance and being a clinician who knows what to do when you've

 got a trance, who knows how to not contaminate the material, and who

 knows how to facilitate recovery rather than cause retraumatization

 because people can be retraumatized by the unconscious repetition of

 their material.  And what do you do if a UFO investigator does you

 clinical harm by taking on clinical responsibilities?  Where is his

 malpractice liability, and how are you going to be protected?  People

 who are not willing to take the time and the effort to become clinicians

 should not be stomping around in the unconscious."

 

 

 

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Subject: Abduction Article, 5/7

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  Though many professionals agreed with Laibow's argument, others felt

 it was unjust to throw out those who had brought the phenomenon to their

 attention in the first place.  As Hopkins himself said, "Where have all

 the mental-health professionals been all these years while these people

 were clamoring for help."  In fact, the dispute has done little to

 diminish Hopkins' influence, who continues to bring mental-health

 professionals into the fold.

 

  One of Hopkins' recruits is Harvard Medical School psychiatrist John

 Mack, author of the 1977 Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Lawrence of

 Arabia.  Though he is the most prominent and respected member of the

 mental-health profession to take an interest in anomalous experiences in

 recent years, Mack is not a pretentious man.  The photo from a Boston

 Globe profile shows him standing in a field wearing corduroy slacks and

 a plaid shirt, his soft gray-green eyes staring calmly at the camera.

 Unlike most therapists who take an interest in these matters, Mack makes

 no attempt to hide the fact that he is "open to what these people are

 telling us."

 

  Mack met Budd Hopkins in January 1990, and was impressed both by the

 man and the case histories of alleged UFO abductions he had collected

 over the years.  "The stories didn't sound at all like dreams or

 fantasies to me," says Mack, his voice resonant with authority.  "It

 sounded like something real was happening.  And I thought, well, if this

 is real, what is it?  Then Budd asked if I wanted to see some of these

 people, and I realized I was crossing some kind of line, but I said

 yes."

 

  Since then, Mack has heard abduction stories from people of all walks

 of life.  "Forty years of psychiatry," he says, "has given me no way to

 explain what I'm encountering in my interviews and hypnosis sessions of

 these individuals.  Something is going on; something is happening to

 these people.  I'm convinced of it."

 

  In fact, Mack has done as much as TREAT to bring anomalous trauma to

 center stage in the professional domain.  He has spoken freely with the

 media about his interest and has given talks and participated in private

 conferences on the subject.  Colleagues who hear him speak often raise

 the issue of whether UFO abduction stories might not be covers for

 episodes of sexual abuse and incest in childhood.  But according to

 Mack, the reverse has been the case.  "There is not a single known case

 of the thousands that have been investigated where exploring or looking

 into the abduction story revealed behind it an incest or sexual-abuse

 history," he says, "but therapists looking for incest stories have come

 up with UFO abduction memories instead."

 

  Mack understands his colleagues' reluctance to delve into the subject.

 "It's so shocking to the paradigm of psychology and psychiatry, which

 tend to look for the source of the experience in the psyches of the

 people who are affected rather than to acknowledge that something

 mysterious is happening to these people.  The phenomenon is not simply a

 product of their mental condition but has some kind of objective

 reality.  Whether you call it extraterrestrial or other-dimensional,

 what it really means is that we may live in a rather different universe

 from the one Western science has told us we live in.

 

  Mack speaks of vast philosophical implications for this phenomenon and

 human identity in the cosmos.  "There's really a great fear of opening

 up our world beyond what we know," he says. "But we need to get out of

 the box we're in and see ourselves in relationship to the universe, and

 I think this phenomenon could be very important in expanding our sense

 of ourselves."

 

  Mack's daring views are not shared by all therapists involved in the

 dark side of the unknown.  "If aliens are coming and invading us and

 abusing us in a very literal sense," argues Toronto psychotherapist

 David Gotlib, "then it's difficult for me to understand how a

 significant portion of those who are taken could find it curious or

 enlightening.  If you compare it to the Holocaust or the Vietnam War or

 any kind of traumatic event, then sure you can learn to grow through it,

 but only after a lot of pain and soul searching, and not right away. So

 it discourages me from subscribing to a literal explanation.  It also

 suggests to me that the phenomenon may be dependent on who's

 experiencing it as well as on what's happening.

 

  Gotlib has thought a lot about UFOs since 1988 when he began treating

 a woman who had been turned down by other therapists because she claimed

 her anxiety was due to an alien abduction.  He has now seen 40 such

 patients and publishes the Bulletin of Anomalous Experience so that his

 150 subscribers in the mental-health professions can network and

 exchange ideas on UFO abduction reports and related phenomena.  "I don't

 expect to solve the puzzle or have the puzzle solved in my lifetime,"

 notes Gotlib. "These kinds of things have been going on for hundreds of

 years.  I think if we start trying to solve the question definitively,

 then we're chasing our tail.  What I'm most concerned about is, how can

 we help these people?"

 

 

 

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  Gotlib sees his next patient and 50 minutes later calls back to answer

 his own questions.  "Basically, what we have to do is listen to them

 without judgement.  You let them know that there are a lot of other

 people who have had these kinds of experiences, that they are not crazy,

 they are not psychotic, they are not mentally ill, they aren't losing

 their minds, and this has the effect of empowering them.  You talk about

 the different ways that people understand this experience, and you

 explore it with them.  One patient left saying that his fear had been

 transformed into curiosity.  If I can do that, then I think I've met my

 therapeutic objective."

 

  It's not a surprise, of course, that Mack, Laibow, and other

 mental-health professionals championing the anomalous have faced a

 growing barrage of criticism both from colleagues and outsiders.  Are

 these therapists, critics wonder, clinging to the myth of their own

 mental impregnability and being drawn into the abyss by the magnetic

 pull of their patients' experiences?

 

  "One needs to monitor one's own reaction to what it is that goes on,"

 cautions NIMH psychologist Harold Goldstein.  "You can be sympathetic,

 you can be empathic, you can be understanding, but your goal as a

 therapist is not to leap into the same pit as the patient, but to be

 there to help pull someone out.  I think that when physicians or

 psychologists endorse these things, or appear to endorse them, we do

 real damage to issues of rationality and realistic evidence.  When we

 reach a point that what's true is what people believe, then we've sunk

 to a very dangerous situation.  "

 

  Bill Ellis, a researcher in contemporary legends at Pennsylvania State

 University in Hazleton applauds mental-health professionals for coming

 to grips with anomalous experiences, but, like Goldstein, thinks a

 little more objectivity is in order.  "I think we forget therapists can

 communicate through body language what they want from their patients,"

 he says.  "It's the clever Hans phenomenon.  It's like the horse that

 could come up with the square root of 360, but what it had really

 learned to do was keep pawing the ground until its trainer relaxed.  The

 trainer was not doing it deliberately.  The trainer was convinced that

 the horse could add and subtract and do square roots. But eventually,

 somebody who was smart enough to figure out what was going on stopped

 watching the horse and started watching the trainer. I think we should

 have more people watching the therapists."

 

  Doing just that is Robert Baker, a retired professor of psychology who

 taught at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the University

 of Kentucky.  And Baker doesn't like what he sees.  "I hope we can do

 something about this nonsense, because it's getting to the point where

 it's almost a national panic disorder," he says.  "We have to do

 something about therapists who really don't know what they're doing. The

 therapists who commit themselves to this nonsense are not aware of major

 areas of human behavior and just do not understand the way the human

 nervous system works."

 

  One thing that fools therapists, says Baker, is cryptoamnesia, a

 series of false memories that form a fantasy with a few minor elements

 of truth thrown in.  "The fact is, we do not remember things exactly,"

 he explains.  "We change, arrange, and distort the memories we have

 stored to better serve our needs and desires.  We fill the gaps in

 memory with events that never happened or with events that did not

 happen the way we imagine, and the results can be bizarre."

 

  The other major cause of the wild stories people tell, according to

 Baker, is sleep paralysis, a sleep disorder accompanied by

 hallucinations that affects about 5 percent of the population.  In sleep

 paralysis, Baker explains, "people wake up in the middle of the night

 and can't move.  They feel like they're wide awake, but they continue

 dreaming and in the dreams often see such things as demons, aliens, or

 ghosts.  Since they're partly awake, however, they may think the dream

 really happened when, in fact, it didn't.  It's no wonder that people

 find this terrifying, and that's what's responsible for the

 posttraumatic stress disorder that therapists are talking about."

 

  But Baker has no explanation for the wild stories told by the

 therapists themselves, unless, he notes, they're "simply seeking

 attention."  Laibow, for instance, claims to have personally experienced

 anomalous "healing," an event she says cannot be explained by

 conventional medical science.  As Laibow recalls, it was a muggy day in

 August 1991 when she "trucked on down to Brooklyn to an unairconditioned

 high-school auditorium filled with lots of Polish and Russian emigres.

 "She sat for three hours, she says, watching Kiev-based psychiatrist and

 self-proclaimed healer Anatoly Kashperovsky dance to New Age Gypsy music

 and thought, "What's a nice girl like me doing in a place like this?"

 

  Anyway, there was Laibow, watching Kashperovsky's performance,

 impatient and skeptical and thinking, "This wouldn't work well at the

 AMA," when suddenly," she says, "this Caesarean scar that I had, which

 was thick and ropey and very prominent because I'd gotten an infection

 immediately after the delivery of my son, began to tingle." As soon as

 she could decorously take a peek, she hiked up her skirt and found to

 her surprise that the scar was gone.

 

 

 

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Subject: Abduction Article, 7/7

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  She immediately made an appointment with her gynecologist, "the head

 of reproductive medicine at a major university," who, Laibow claims, was

 shocked when all he could find was a very fine hairline scar.  The

 gynecologist, whom she will not name, was excited by her story. "Imagine

 if we could do that," Laibow says he exclaimed.  Laibow adds that the

 gynecologist may be interested in collaborating on a future study of

 healing.  One possible subject: a Japanese healer who Laibow says "seems

 to have some very substantial powers."

 

  As founder of TREAT and raconteur of stories both marvelous and

 strange, Laibow is controversial to say the least.  But are the doctor

 and her colleagues merely misguided, marrying their fortunes to the

 winds of culture, much like those who touted fairies and dragons in eras

 past?  Or are they onto something new?  Will their quest lead more

 people to come forward with anomalous experiences and encounters,

 providing the data necessary for proper scrutiny - perhaps even

 authentication - by the scientific and medical communities at large?  In

 short, are these mental-health professionals fooling themselves, or are

 they forging extraordinary paths through the byways of consciousness and

 the murky outback of the unknown?  To answer these questions, of course,

 is to know the nature of the unknown, and that is something we humans

 have ceaselessly attempted for thousands of years - so far, with out

 much success.

 

 

 

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