3D Realtime Message Board Archive
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Archive of messages posted in the Macintosh Graphic Arts Forum's 3D SIG's 3D Realtime message board.
All Posts prior to 5/97
1:25:37 PM
3D Interest Group /3D Modelers Real time
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Subj: Caster in the N.Y. area
Date: 6/22/96 6:03:04 AM
From: SPLASH5000
Posted on: America Online
Look to work with a caster have some 3d action fig
and would like to reproduce.
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Subj: Re: Caster in the N.Y. area
Date: 6/22/96 9:02:24 AM
From: ErikTek1
Posted on: America Online
>>>would like to reproduce.<<<
Ah??? Shouldn't you get married first before taking a step like that? Hehehe! Hahaha! I couldn't resist, sorry, had to do it. ;-)
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Erik D.
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Subj: Re: Caster in the N.Y. area
Date: 6/22/96 4:32:01 PM
From: Bugs123456
Posted on: America Online
<<Ah??? Shouldn't you get married first before taking a step like that?>>
ROTFL.....now that I have stopped laughing at "Heat Merchant Eric's" funny joke, what are you looking for, clay, metals, plastic, or rubber reproductions splash? And are they articulated figures?
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Subj: Graphics Accelerator
Date: 7/5/96 3:10:04 PM
From: SamG1
ü Ú …‡ Posted on: America Online
My son found two extensions on a Apple CD called Graphics Accelerator and 7200 graphics accelerator. He installed them on an 8100/110 and it increased the rendering speed in Infini-D (2.6a) by about 4 times. Have you heard of these and do they make one spcifically for the 8100 and 8500?
Thanks,
SamG1
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Subj: Re:Graphics Accelerator
Date: 7/6/96 1:22:36 AM
From: KELTER
Posted on: America Online
>>My son found two extensions on a Apple CD called Graphics Accelerator and 7200 graphics accelerator. He installed them on an 8100/110 and it increased the rendering speed in Infini-D (2.6a) by about 4 times. Have you heard of these and do they make one spcifically for the 8100 and 8500?
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Hmm... I have "graphics accelerator" on my 9500 by default. I understood it to be the driver for the ATI-PCI vidcard. Its odd that it would increase ID's rendering speed...
BTW, did I understand the above post to say that you have BOTH of these items installed? Why?
-Kelter
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Subj: Real Time Walk Thought
Date: 12/16/96 12:36:25 PM
From: RicmaSoft
Posted on: America Online
is there any way to have myst quality games in Marathon format. Like you could move around and walk and look around in real time. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
Date: 12/17/96 1:39:26 AM
From: ErikTek1
Posted on: America Online
Where is the button that turns this RicmaSoft guy off? Dude, why are spamming the forums so bad for?
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
Date: 12/17/96 8:36:42 AM
From: ACrawfish
Posted on: America Online
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Where is the button that turns this RicmaSoft guy off? Dude, why are spamming the forums so bad for?
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If you've actually read or thought about any of the things that RicmaSoft is talking about, they're all related to wanting to make a game and interesting questions. Hardly spam at all. The questions are actually even put in the appropriate folders! Perfect material to spawn meaningful discussions. Are you perhaps offended that his login is appearing more than yours? Where is the button that turns you off, ErikTek?
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
K è î Date: 12/17/96 8:54:37 AM
From: ACrawfish
Posted on: America Online
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is there any way to have myst quality games in Marathon format. Like you could move around and walk and look around in real time. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It's really hard to get Myst quality (in terms of its look) in a realtime game.
First, a lot of rendering time is required to get photorealistic results. Qd3d (or any other graphics library, GL, Hoops, Heidi, etc.) aren't up to it. To get the look, you either have to use tons & tons of little triangles for all the models (sort of the Renderman micropolygon approach) or use computationally expensive rendering (EI, Strata, etc.) which can't currently be performed in realtime without a lot of expensive hardware. Either approach doesn't lend itself to realtime.
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Second, the size of the database for a Myst game can be enormous. This also limits performance and possibly even if the game could run on typical PCs. The complexity of the models is a real bottleneck.
On the other hand, there are things that can be done to improve the interactivity of a Myst-like game. If you use QuicktimeVR (or a Qd3d equivalent) as the viewing mechanism, then at least you can look around the environment in a Marathon fashion. This way you could still render beautiful images but look at them in more interactive way than Myst's "slideshow." You'll still have to jumpe from spot to spot, however.
There are also some tricks you can play by texture mapping simple polygonal models and putting this light weight models into your game (a Nintendo/Sega approach). But these always compromise quality for speed.
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
Date: 12/17/96 9:18:38 PM
From: ErikTek1
Posted on: America Online
>>> Are you perhaps offended that his login is appearing more than yours? Where is the button that turns you off, ErikTek?<<<
Cheap shot Crawfish, cheap shot. If you want to bring up the past, fine by me, but don't fool this forum with your "psuedo saint" intentions. My statement was in reference to the abudance of posts throughout the various categories, not the content. Normally things can be summed up in one general post.
G È |Ý If I really wanted to bash I would've used more extreme wording. I used the words, "Dude" & "Spamming", hardly a serious insult, but now we get you and your twists again.
Back to you,,, regardless of how much time has passed, I still think you have a very big and very crass mouth! Normally the only time I speak is when I have something to contribute. I could give two hoots about my name showing up or not, contrary to your whimsical effort of trying to make it appear as such. As a matter of fact things have been quite peaceful around here and I can only predict who will jump on this bandwagon next. Go ahead, blab on, this is a public forum, but I request that you keep your personal feelings towards me in an E-Mail type fashion. If you can somehow fathom the depths of this skill, I will practice the same.
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Dawning my protective suit,,, Flame on!
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
Date: 12/18/96 10:09:28 AM
From: ACrawfish
Posted on: America Online
How can you possibly be offended when I simply used your own words to Ricsmasoft back to you? If I'm taking a cheap shot, then doesn't that mean you took a cheap shot?? Two sentences and I have a "very big and very crass mouth"?? I certainly don't care AT ALL personally about you. I just don't want your negative sarcastic comments to discourage somebody like Ricsmasoft from asking questions in whatever manner he feels like.
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
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From: ErikTek1
Posted on: America Online
>>>How can you possibly be offended when I simply used your own words to Ricsmasoft back to you?<<<
Thats just part of it, you took an oppurtunity to insult me directly. Your motives are of a personal nature that go way back. The quote I made has been made by many in this forum, why don't you go at the others as well? You once again twist things around to make it appear as something else. Why don't you let Ricma Soft speak for himself. I never tried to discourage him from making posts, I was putting humour into the situation about posting in every topic folder. You are the one who amplified this situation so ask yourself who the instigator is here.
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The more I think about what you're saying and doing, the more pissed off I'm getting here. You are a blatent trouble maker, this thing is getting bigger than it should be. Yes Crawfish,,, you have a very big and very crass mouth!
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Subj: Re:Real Time Walk Thought
Date: 12/18/96 1:38:40 PM
From: SWells
Posted on: America Online
Erikte1k's first post read:
>>Where is the button that turns this RicmaSoft guy off? Dude, why are spamming the forums so bad for?<<
Then, later responded:
>> was putting humour into the situation about posting in every topic folder.<<
I dont want to get caught up in the flame war here, just want to voice my opinion. Erik, you may want to add the customary smileys (( ; ) =) 8 ) )) to your coments if your being funny. Humor doesnt translate well in this medium & I missread your original post as being hostile as well.
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Please, not trying to start a fight!!!!!
Scott Wells
Animax Design
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Subj: Tis the season ...........
Date: 12/18/96 6:45:09 PM
From: RandyWyan
Posted on: America Online
to be jolly .........
fa-la-la-la-lah
RandyWyan
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Subj: Re:Tis the season ...........
Date: 12/18/96 9:07:06 PM
From: Sweaz
Posted on: America Online
Ah-h-h-h...a note of sanity!
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Subj: Re:Tis the season ...........
à , ˆ Date: 12/18/96 9:46:00 PM
From: Bugs123456
Posted on: America Online
<<to be jolly .........
fa-la-la-la-lah>>
bullseye.
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Subj: 3D app needed
Date: 1/22/97 11:44:49 AM
From: WLOAERO
Posted on: America Online
Hi! Can you help me in developing a 3D app that I can put wireframe models in(dxf) and rotate these models with key strokes or mouse. I make 3D models and would like to sell the models along with an app that can rotate and then make a picture as GIF, JPEG, and PICT. My site is http://users.aol.com/wloaero It is Aeronautica 3D. Who can help or where can I get help. Is it easy enough to make an app and what language would I use. Thanks Wendell. Please respond to WLOAERO
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Subj: 3D
Date: 1/22/97 2:45:40 PM
From: Chosen95
Posted on: America Online
CAN ANYONE OUT THERE TELL ME HOW TO MAKE THOSE IMAGES THAT YOU USE THE 3d GLASSES TO VIEW?
5/10/97 1:26:33 PM Closing "3dRealtime"
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