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15:59:00 edt
From: Nicburnham
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I went to a workshop on this very topic in Dallas - it was called "Down and
Dirty Advice for Selling Your First Novel".
The speaker said that when this happens, if they don't tell you clearly what
the problems are, call the editor. First, ask if it's a good time for her to
talk, and then, BRIEFLY, tell her you received her letter, and would like to
revise. Ask her what SPECIFICALLY she thought was wrong. Do NOT be
defensive, just listen. Then, ask if you can think about her advice, and
call her back to run your ideas for revision past her. Then write like crazy
and resubmit.
This worked for LOTS of people who were in the room for the workshop. Anyone
online had a similar experience? Anyone else should definitely put in their
two cents! In any event, revise and resubmit. It sounds like you've got a
great shot!
Have a celebrat Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-24 22:16:52 edt
From: MaryM18536
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Great news, Tina.
Boy, you're on a roll.
Mary Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-24 23:39:20 edt
From: Gtlhrt
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Hey Denise I got a rejection from the Star this week and so did Amy. The
winners circle!!
Tina Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-25 08:55:55 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Tina - Congratulations!!! Remind us then, so we can pick it up! (We got a
Barnes & Nobles here that picks up Affaire Du Couer!)
Connie Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-25 12:05:42 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Tina,
That's simply terrific!!! They don't publish much fiction so you are some
kinda genius!!
Gail Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-25 20:20:17 edt
From: Asandrin
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Tina:
Congrats! Way to go.
Amy Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-25 20:20:51 edt
From: Asandrin
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Wow Denise:
Star must be on a roll. I got rejected on Friday.
Amy Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-25 22:07:19 edt
From: Luv2rit
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Wonderful news, Tina! Congratulations!
Deb Subj: Star
Date: 96-08-26 09:42:28 edt
From: DCamp76
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What's with the mass rejections? Did someone come back from vacation at the
Star and catch up on their reading or did they hire Barbara readers to catch
up?
=Denise= Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-26 12:32:45 edt
From: Punkybean
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Great news, Tina!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to read it.
Phyllis Subj: Re:Star
Date: 96-08-26 13:35:38 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Denise - No, from what I understand (and Tina & Carole would know this, from
having been published with them), the Star sends out their acceptances
quickly, but the rejections seem to be put aside and are sent out together.
Actually, good way of knowing the status before it happens (I guess!).
Connie Subj: Releases
Date: 96-08-26 15:51:00 edt
From: Luv2rit
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Yippee! I just got a release in the mail for the December TR! It's a story
I wrote about a rookie volunteer firefighter who sets fires just so he can
look like a hero. His girlfriend turns him in after she discovers
incriminating evidence. I am SO excited!
Deb Subj: Re:ReleasesMEtoo
Date: 96-08-26 16:12:03 edt
From: J00DLynn
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I got mine..the one about the sisters who fight, with a chrismas theam! I'm
so excited, who else is in this one??
Jodi Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-26 17:13:28 edt
From: PattyWrite
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Tina, Great news! What's your story about? The really have a long lead
time, don't they?
Patty Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 17:17:07 edt
From: PattyWrite
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Deb, Congrats on your sale. Your story sounds interesting and very
up-to-the-minute.
I was surprised and delighted to get two Dec. contracts from TR. So I've got
2 in Nov. TL & 2 in Dec. TR. I'll be rich around the end of the year? Of
course, with Christmas....maybe I won't be.
Patty Subj: Re:ReleasesMEtoo
Date: 96-08-26 17:18:36 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Hey Jodi, Another December TR. How terrific! I love holiday themes,
especially Christmas. can't wait to read it.
Patty Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 18:04:02 edt
From: Asandrin
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Deb:
Congrats!
Amy Subj: Re:ReleasesMEtoo
Date: 96-08-26 18:04:25 edt
From: Asandrin
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Jodi:
Congrats to you too.
Amy Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 18:05:19 edt
From: Asandrin
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Patty:
Congrats to you too! Man, we're either all getting rejected or we're all
selling.
Amy Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 18:40:30 edt
From: DCamp76
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Deb,
I guess we'll be kissing cousins (along with a bunch of you, it sounds
like)---I'll be in Dec. True Love -I got my release for the Grandma Driving
Story (proposed for the DI 1 issue). The sad thing about after Christmas
Sales are the after Christmas Sales--new meaning to gone in 60 seconds.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 18:41:18 edt
From: DCamp76
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Congrats Patty--I've never made two in one issue. Hmmmm, a new goal.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 18:55:32 edt
From: Gtlhrt
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Congrats to all of you! Nothing in that department for me yet.
My story for next June (yes quite a lead time) is about a man and his very
young son who learn the same "Love Lessons" about the women in their
lives.
Yeah Connie that's my theory on the Star too.
Tina Subj: Re:Star
Date: 96-08-26 19:20:30 edt
From: DCamp76
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Connie,
Don't you reconize a pathetic plea hope?--I'm not hearing from the Star at
all and I'd woven this little fantasy that mine have yet to be discovered.
Now you've made me face reality--they aren't selling. Sigh.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Star
Date: 96-08-26 19:23:49 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Denise - Aw!! <G> That Not Knowing business can be really painful, too!
Connie Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 19:26:36 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Okay, let me get this straight: Congrats to Denise for TL (yay! Granmama
found a home! <G>) and to Jodi, Patty (2 in there - yes, you're rich!!!),
and Miz Debbie!!! I'll be in there with you, too - just got my contract from
TR for that mayor who used to be a male prostitute. Quite a while issue!!!
What? Did everybody at these publishers get back from vacation or
something??
Does anyone know when England finishes THEIR vacations? (My novel is STILL
at Harlequin!)
Connie Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 19:28:00 edt
From: Luv2rit
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Connie,
I think it's a good sign with Harlequin for your book to be there for a
long time. I think it must have made it just a little bit further. This
might be the big one!
Deb Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-26 19:29:00 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Okay, gals! If anyone's up for is, why don't we do the chat on Saturday
night at about 9:00 EST? That's tentative, of course, for Aug. 31. The name
of the room will be e-mailed, but let us know who can make it!!
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-26 19:30:51 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Girls - I have a question about novel #2. Is it highly unusual to have a
hero (in an ethnic romance) who still has to, shall we say, "practice"
speaking English? My hero just came on the boat from Cuba, so it's really
unrealistic to think he'd speak the King's English! <G>
Connie Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-26 21:45:44 edt
From: Punkybean
.
That's fine with me.
Phyllis Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 22:03:24 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Deb,
You are a genuine heroine yourself. Congrats.
I just "sold" a story myself. For two copies--to a magazine named Calliope. I
think there might be two and this is the other one (?) I'm not sure. It's a
"literary" story.
Gail Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-26 22:04:15 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Jodi,
Merry Christmas!!!!!!
Gail Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 22:04:56 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Patty,
You wild woman. Sell, girl, sell.
Gail Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-26 22:05:32 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
I think I can make the chat. That is, if we don't visit the family in
Atlanta for the holiday weekend.
Deb Subj:
Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-26 22:06:55 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Hey, hey, Denise!!!!!
Tina, I like the theme.
In re the Star. I submitted (finally) too recently to be rejected yet. (I
hope.)
Gail Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-26 22:09:03 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Connie,
I like realism in a novel!!! People are logical. I like logic!!! I've had too
many movies spoiled for me because there were a lot of jumps in logic. You're
right. Let the hero practice his English. Women always like to help anyway!
Gail Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-27 06:29:05 edt
From: Gtlhrt
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Congrats to Gail too!
I'll be in Tulsa for the holiday, so e me the minutes. Can I bring anyone
back a cowboy or two?
Tina Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-27 08:49:15 edt
From: CMyersTex
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I'm up for the chat Saturday. I'm still waiting to hear on the story I
submitted for Dec. TR. Maybe today! I swear it takes longer for mail to get
to this little town than anywhere I've ever lived. We call in the black hole
in the mail system.
Cindi Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-27 08:50:47 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
I like the idea of your hero still having to practice English. It could be
very charming. Also some possibilities for humor. I just have this picture
of this gorgeous Cuban guy with this wonderful accent. What woman wouldn't
be swept off her feet.
Cindi Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-27 14:02:03 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Thanks, Deb!! I'm going to check the actual date it was sent off. (Again
with that log!!!)
Connie Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-27 14:02:45 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Gail - Congratulations!!! Boy, the mailboxes have been great lately!!
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-27 14:04:26 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Thanks, Gail!!! It's really funny, too. He talks just like my heroine did
in the story Pat published, about the arranged marriage with the Cuban girl,
so it's "familiar territory!"
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-27 14:04:52 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - Cowboys are always welcomed by Bad Girls!!!
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-27 14:05:50 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Oh, thanks, Cindi! That's what I'm going for, too!
<G>
Connie Subj: Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-27 14:07:37 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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& Gail & (I believe) Larita: how's everybody coming with their novel lately?
I find the hardest thing is working on the confessions & the novel both,
finding the time to squeeze everything in. The "spirit" of each individual
story, if you know what I mean, seems to infringe sometimes on the other
story's "spirit"!
Connie
Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-27 16:22:36 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Connie, you're right about it being hard to work on confessions and a novel
at the same time. I keep trying to go into first person in my novel. Every
now and then, I have to check for any "I"s or "me"s. Does anyone else have
that problem? I find that it's easier to get the emotion in the first person
writing, but the third person story can have more than one POV. That's the
beauty of writing for both markets. It helps us to stretch our skills as
writers.
Deb
Subj: Finding time
Date: 96-08-27 16:25:06 edt
From: Luv2rit
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The way I've been squeezing all my writing in is to ignore all the dust
bunnies and the dishes that pile up in the sink, waiting to be loaded into
the dishwasher. I stick my own in there, and eventually one of my children
or my husband will load it. One of these days, they might get the idea that
if they each put their own dishes in the machine as they go, the task will
run much smoother.
Deb Subj:
Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-27 16:27:34 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
I've already asked Connie this, but I was wondering about everyone else's
experiences. How many stories have you had in one magazine at one time? The
reason I wanted to know is that one of the romance writers I saw on a news
show said that she used to make a living at confessions. I wonder what she
consideres "a living"?
Deb Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-27 18:22:45 edt
From: Asandrin
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Hey everyone:
Lynda says Hi. Larita says Hi. They both miss us bad girls.
Amy Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-27 19:31:10 edt
From: ESCRITORA
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Debbie - Yes!!!! Exactly!!! LOLOL!! I just did that today, too; I kept
thinking, "Well, what if I switch off & come from Maritza's point of view,
let her talk?" That's my main problem; I feel like an observer, and when we
do the confessions, we're actually in there on the action. What I've found
helps is something I read somewhere - an author saying that when she wants
those characters to reveal themselves, she lets them go into dialogue. She's
right: I found that's a good way to get the emotion in there.
Connie Subj: Re:Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-27 19:32:43 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Deb - The most I've ever had is 4 stories in the same month, with 2 in TL and
2 in TR the same month. In one magazine, the biggie was April 95 TL, with 3
stories at once. Yes - it was GREAT fun!!
<G>
Connie (Now if I could only do that AGAIN!!!) Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-27 19:33:30 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - Any news on L & L's end? (Larita the Model Mom & Lynda the Cutie Cop?)
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Finding time
Date: 96-08-27 21:31:55 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Connie,
There's really no way to find the time!!! Especially since I spend a lot of
time writing email and messing around. I'm getting ready to do query letters
on my novel. In the meantime I've come to a dead halt on stories. Once my
queries go out though!!!
Gail Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-27 21:33:10 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
I "reuse" a lot of my characters. But they also change. I'm sure you all know
what I mean!
Gail Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-27 23:21:41 edt
From: Punkybean
.
The POV thing is bugging me right now too! URRRGH!!
Phyllis Subj: Re:Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-27 23:22:54 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Deb,
Wow! She made a living writing for the confessions. Mmmm, if I could do
that, I probably wouldn't bother with this &^%$^#@ book!
Phyllis Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-27 23:23:48 edt
From: Punkybean
.
I called Lynda last night to help her through her AOL withdrawel while her
computer is on the blink. She misses everyone!!!!!
Phyllis Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-28 07:27:22 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Phyl you are so nice!!!
Tina Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-28 09:00:27 edt
From: DCamp76
.
I told a friend about Connie's mayor/male prostitute story and she can't wait
to buy the magazine!
This may out-do Lynda's waking up in bed with another woman story. Any word
on Lynda's computer yet?
=Denise= Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 09:03:48 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Don't forget, a lot of people just off the boat speak English more correctly
than we natives. Just have him with an accent that melts her toenails and
have him stumble over slang and idiocyncracies (sp?) that they don't teach in
language classes.
Don't use a lot of dialect, that is such a turn-off in a book.
That's my 2 cents worth of advice.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 09:05:09 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Tina--Fed ex the cowboy
Connie--I'll try to be there but my mom may be visiting, sooooo
=Denise= Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 09:08:53 edt
From: DCamp76
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Yes, Yes, Yes, I have trouble switching from book to confession.
From some of the complaints I heard via National in Dallas, we'd best not
give up our confession writing careers, some of the already pubbed are
hitting lean times in the industry.
=Denise= Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-28 10:00:07 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Connie:
Lynda knows nothing yet about her computer. I'm going to loan her my lap top
so she can get some writing done and talk to us at the same time.
Amy Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 10:50:52 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
1st to 3rd person switching is hard,and going between works like that is
difficult- but I also get so into the characters that it's hard to write both
in the same day....the novel I'm working on has children in it...but my confs
are more 'adult' .
Jodi Subj: Hellos
Date: 96-08-28 10:52:53 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Well I'm so busy here working...not only is it the BIG back to school season,
but the store only has 6 workers including managers. They keep asking me to
come in...so my writing is getting ignored, I'm concerdering gettting up in
the morning to write, anyone do this? How do you find the time?
Jodi (Waiting for Oct..when the Big season is OVER) Subj: Re:Hellos
Date: 96-08-28 13:11:46 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Well gang, I've been quering like crazy. Just got a great response from
Dutton. They sent me a form letter stating that thanks, but they weren't
hiring freelance readers at this time. Huh? I got a chuckle out of that
one. Had to send them a second letter requesting that they respond to my
first letter. Somewhere out there, there is a freelance reader shaking
his/her head and wondering whey they want to see a manuscript that he/she as
never written.
Amy Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 13:52:52 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - Oh, so I'm not the only one who "re-casts" characters they like!! I
do that especially when a story or novel gets rejected, and that character
"worked really hard" & deserves another chance!!!
Funny how we get attached to these fictional guys & gals!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-28 13:53:34 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Phyllis - You're not alone!!! The 1st person POV rules!
Connie Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-28 13:54:12 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
I second that, Phyllis!! You ARE a sweetie!
Connie Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-28 13:55:14 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Denise - I hope she likes the mayor with the jaded past! (Let me know!)
That one gave me trouble!
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 13:57:21 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Denise - Thanks for the advice!! Actually, he has trouble with tenses (past,
present, future) and mispronouncing a little, some problems with
contractions, which would come out something like, "I thinking maybe we go
today to the park!" <G> That part about American slang ALWAYS is so funny!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:MIA's
Date: 96-08-28 13:58:20 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - What a good friend you are!! Like that she can pop in!!
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 13:59:55 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jodi - Yes, that's an interesting point, too. Your novel has kids, and mine
is Christian/inspirational, so the confessions tend to be more - is this a
good term? - cutting edge.
Connie Subj: Re:Hellos
Date: 96-08-28 14:01:19 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jodi - I don't know about the girls, but I write mostly at night. Also at
lunchtime at work (and sometimes in between work, but that's harder for you).
Find an island. Skip the TV. Have more coffee to stay awake. Whatever
works!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Hellos
Date: 96-08-28 14:03:28 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - LOLOLOL!!! That's not all that unusual, though, you know? I once sent
off a query to a book packager for my middle grade series, listing my
experience, and the letter that came back said, "Your idea for `True
Confessions' sounds very intriguing, however, it does not meet our list."
I almost wrote back to that editor, saying, "Lady, what do you want, to end
up in a lawsuit here???" LOLOL!!!
Connie Subj: English
Date: 96-08-28 15:40:26 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Connie,
I read a Harlequin Temptation a while back, where a hero (Russian I think)
learned textbook English from an outdated book. So he kept using slang from
the 70's and getting it all wrong.
It was really good!
Phyllis Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-28 15:43:54 edt
From: Punkybean
.
The line I'm targeting (Arabesque) put out a first person book this
month!!!!!! I'm seriously thinking of making some changes in my MIP.
Phyllis Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-28 17:43:27 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Connie, Yes, I can make it Saturday. Please let me know.
Patty Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-28 17:45:46 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Gail, Don't put the sale in quotes. That's definitely a sale. Even if my
confesiionals are selling well, I can't seem too give away my literary
stories, and I'd love to. Congrats
Patty Subj: Re:Oklahoma
Date: 96-08-28 17:47:29 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Tina, Say hi to Oklahoma for me. I went to school there (OU) and I haven't
been back for a while.
Patty Subj: Re:Oklahoma, PS
Date: 96-08-28 17:48:59 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Tina, P.S. A cowboy with a heart of gold would always be appeciated!.
Patty Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-28 17:53:12 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Deb, I chuckled when I read your comment about slipping into the first person
when working on your novel. I'm working on a romantic suspense novel that I
started in the first person because I'm more comfortable with it due probably
to confes writing. I changed it to the third person because it really wasn't
working, but yesterday I was proofreading the first draft of the third
chapter and one scene myseriously got written in the first person anyway. It
seemed to want to be told that way.
Patty Subj: Re:Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-28 17:57:36 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Deb, In answer to your question about having more than one story in one
magazine, I have two in Nov. TL & two in Dec. TR so I know it's possible,
although I never had more than one in an issue before. As to the question of
making a living from confes writing alone, I'm not sure it's possible any
longer, though it probably was at one time. I'm not sure of my facts, but I
believe that years ago the confes paid close to what they pay now and fifteen
years ago you might have been able to support yourself on $250.00 a story.
Wish it could still be done.
Patty Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-28 18:10:56 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Re: working on the novel and confessions at the same time. I think it helps
that I write historicals. They're -so- different there's not as much
overlap. I just have trouble finding time to write much on either one these
days -- too much work, but I won't complain. It's money for taxes and
Christmas and.....
Cindi Subj: Re:Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-28 18:12:24 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
I wonder how long ago that romance author made a living writing confessions.
Sad to say, the magazines pay the same per word amounts now they did back in
the 1950s. Three cents and five cents went a lot further back then.
Cindi Subj: Re:English
Date: 96-08-28 18:16:18 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Phyllis, what was the name of that Harlequin with the Russian? Sounds so
cute!
Cindi
Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-28 18:17:43 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Sometimes when I'm having trouble with a scene in my book, I'll go ahead and
write it in first person. Then I'll change it to third later. I suggested
this to a critique partner who was having trouble staying in one character's
point of view and she said it really helped.
Cindi Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-28 18:32:53 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Yeeeeaaaahhhhh! Yiiiipppppeee! Yahooooooooo! I finished my dang-blasted
story for DI-3. 24 pages long. Thought I'd never get there. I was gonna
send in two, but I guess that's a matter of my eyes being bigger than my
stomach. Now I can work on my novel again. Lynda and I both want to enter
the Golden Heart this time and they are moving the date up.
I can see it now, long nights. No sleep. No sex.....wait, that's research,
gotta have it!
Amy Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 19:03:29 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
I do love my characters. I can't understand it if the rest of the world
doesn't. They must be crazy!!!!
Patty, Thanks. Sometimes I can't give 'em away, either.
Gail Subj: Re:English
Date: 96-08-28 19:11:15 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Phyllis - I agree with Cindi! What was the title of that book? Sounds like
fun!!
Groovy, like outta site!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-28 19:13:19 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Patty - That's interesting, because a suspense novel, hmmm...yeah, that's a
tough one, because you like to get "behind the scenes" without your narrator,
so you can cause trouble. But it can be done - my thriller confession was
originally a YA novel I never sold in 3rd person, and it was tricky, but you
can switch off to 1st. Advantages, disadvantages - like Debbie says,
sharpens us even more!
Connie Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-28 19:14:30 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - What date is the Golden Heart moving up to? I'd like to give it a
whirl, too, this time! (I was late last time, and I hear they have a section
for inspirational...that true, Denise?)
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 19:15:26 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - I'm with Patty. I'm willing to give away free M&M's with my lit
story, which is going for free as it is. Has that ever been done?
<VBG>
Connie Subj: Re:English
Date: 96-08-28 20:56:56 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Cindi - I can't remember the name of the Temptation I read, but I think it
came out this year.
Phyllis Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-28 22:23:32 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
When I was a kid my sister and I used to sell comic books we had read and we
gave away bubble gum with them as an incentive. That's sort of like giving
away m&ms with with stories.
What you have to do is keep mailing--as with everything else. Just buy
stamps!
Gail Subj: Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-28 23:57:30 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Hi Strangers!
Forgive any typos, please. Amy was a goddess of astronomical proportions to
lend me her laptop, but typing on this tiny keyboard is like trying to
squeeze my 31 year old rump into 18 year old's jeans!!! I don't have the
energy to respond to everyone personally-----it has taken (oops---laptop
demons just did something weird. If it comes out, sorry). me nearly an hour
to catch up with everyone's posts. Bad news from this front: Bantam
rejected Luck of the Draw.
:-(
Truly, the news didn't bum me out. We're writers, right????? We have to
expect rejection. Right before my computer became Satanic, I queried ten
other agents. TEN!!!! Hopefully I'll have some luck. Besides that, I'm
dreadfully behind on everything computer-related, but I just decided to go
with the flow. News on my spawn-from-hell computer: the motherboard decided
it didn't want to be a parent anymore. The nerve. Should be fixed anytime
between two weeks and eternity.
Please feel free to fill my mailbox!!! I'm in serious AOL withdrawal!!
Your wayward pal, Lynda C. Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-29 00:07:14 edt
From: IRWriter
.
All right Gail! You just keep adding to those clips! Congratulations, you
"literary" snob you! ;-)
Sherril Subj: Re:Hellos
Date: 96-08-29 00:13:19 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Hi Jodi! I used to get up early and try to write. I just have to face the
fact that I'm not a morning person. Now, I come home, change my clothes, and
go straight to the computer room. (I should work out first, but oh well.)
My husband doesn't get home from work until about 2 or 3 hours after I get
home, so I have time to work, and still have time to throw something together
for dinner. (thank god for microwaves, frozen instant meals, and rice
cookers!) It works for me, but I realize I'm really lucky, because most
people can't work at that schedule. Often after we eat, we're both back on
our computers until we go to bed. But then, a lot of times we turn on the TV
and veg, too!
Sherril Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 00:16:50 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Don't you just HATE motherboards! They should have named them fatherboards!
Well, anyway, glad to have you back, we missed you!
Sherril, who wishes she had your 30-something rump, instead of the one she's
got! Subj: Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 00:18:48 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Well, I just got a contract for the DEC TL in the mail, a story I sent about
6 months ago called "My Christmas Gifts are Driving me Crazy!" I kind of
based it on the gifts from hell my mother used to send me from QVC. Bless
her heart, I'm sure she never thought she'd me the inspiration for a story.
Thanks Mom!
Sherril Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-29 00:50:15 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
Gail-
Congrats on selling your story to Calliope. When will it be coming out? Can
you get that mag at B&N? I haven't read anything literary for awhile, except
Jane Austen. It'd be cool to read a story from a highbrow author like
yourself.
Susan
Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-29 00:52:50 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
We've got some family thing going Saturday, so I'm not sure I can make the
chat. But I will definitely try.
Thanks- Susan Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-29 00:56:49 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
Connie-
I sometimes think dialect in a novel is disruptive, but you did a great job
of handling it in the story with the Cuban girl. I think it would definitely
give you some possibilities for humor, as long as it's coupled with
understanding. (Remember Lucy & Ricky?)
Susan Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 01:04:19 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
Congratulations on your sale, Sherril. The story sounds like a cute one, and
the story behind it is especially touching. I'm looking forward to reading
it.
Susan Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 09:45:26 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Sherril-
Should've named them fatherboards?!?!? LOLOLOLOL!!! How true it is! Then
again, they are the lifeblood of the computer, so motherboard DOES fit!!!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 09:46:09 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Yay Sherril! Congrats!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-08-29 10:29:23 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
Good for you! There are so many markets if we just keep our eyes open.
...and if we have stories written to submit. Can't add to the posts about
rejections. I have to get more stuff in the mail first.
Hope you celebrated! Jan Boies
Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-29 10:34:37 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
Connie,
The only thing to careful about is using too much dialect. It can get
distracting. Yes, it can be charming and humorous. My advice...
I aim to make my writing flow -- not to have places where a reader stops to
re-read a sentence to wonder what it meant, or go back three lines to figure
out who is speaking, or flip back a few pages to remind themself who the
secondary character is supposed to be. See what I mean? As authors we draw
our readers into a fantasy world. They become part of it and if we lose
them, it is hard to draw them back.
I gave up reading one historical romance that had so much dialect that I
couldn't follow the dialogue. I doubt you would do this, but just a
suggestion. Ethnic is great. A hero who is struggling with English is very
timely. I'm sure you can achieve the right balance. Jan
Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-29 10:37:44 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
I'm putting it on my calendar. That's the first step for me. Then I have to
make sure everyone else stays off the phone! Subj: Everything else
Date: 96-08-29 10:47:54 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
I'm logging these new posts as I go along. Finally, I decided I have to post
my replies online or I never remember to post my comments when I get back
here. Just want to apologize for not responding to all the good news
individually. You are an inspiring group!
Jodi -- know what you mean about getting more hours at the store than you
want. The Petsmart where I work is new and now many of the kids are going
back to school. We have two daytime cashiers (I'm one of them) and two night
ones. Very short staffed. And standing several hours and being friendly for
several hours is very tiring for me. I can scribble a few paragraphs during
my break, but I have little energy to come home, make dinner, and then sit
down at the computer. I have today off and I'm catching up on all the online
news. One other thought about sore feet -- if you have to wear nice shoes
like I did when I worked at a department store -- Dr. Scholl's makes an
insert for dress shoes. They really help cushion your feet. But nothing
helped me yesterday when I sprained my toe before work and then had to go
stand on it for 6 1/2 hours.
First person: I have written a couple first person YA books. I love it. I
remember a writing teacher who said it was hard to maintain first person in a
story. Not for me. I love being right inside my character's head, sharing
her thoughts. On the other hand, my critique group had suggested a change a
short story from first person to third. In that case, it improved the story
and it sold to 'Teen. I'm beginning to think the choice of person depends on
the story. I want to write a novel about a teenage girl who is sexually
harrassed. And it seems that story is begging me to write it in first person
to really capture her inner feelings.
I'm with all of you who can't find enough time. My head is full of
characters demanding their turn. Have a question? Probably it is the ton
of stress in my life but I can't find the passion for writing that I used to
have. I've heard several authors say if they talk about a story in progress
that they lose the energy from it. If keeping my mouth shut (very hard for
me) would help my harness the energy, I'm going to have to try it. Any
thoughts?
Online addiction. It's hard, but I try to limit my message boards visits to
once or twice a week. I have to do it during the day, because my dh hates
when I'm online. But he hates everything else I do, too, so I don't take it
too seriously. But my hard drive is full of logs that I need to read! I
can only conclude that days are too short!
Jan
Subj: Re:Phyllis, Lynda, Patty
Date: 96-08-29 11:19:36 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Phyllis,
Who wrote the 1st person Arabesque?
=Denise= Subj: Re:Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-29 11:21:22 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Confessions definitely paid the same 15 years ago. My first sale was $200
(95 cents a word True Story) and it went a lot farther.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Multiple stories
Date: 96-08-29 11:21:41 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Make tht 5 cents a word. So I can't type either.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-29 11:23:24 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Connie.
They definitely have an inspirational category and ENTER the Golden Heart
because numbers are low and if there aren't enough entries, the category is
dropped. If you entered last year, read the rules, they've changed this
year.
=Denise Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 11:24:49 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Lynda,
Welcome back and BTW I've seen your rump--it would fit into size 18 month
old jeans, dear.
=Denise= Subj: Re:Novels & Stories
Date: 96-08-29 11:56:11 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Connie:
Dates for Golden Heart will hopefully be posted in the next RWR. The lastest
one just mentioned that it was moved up. Deadlines, deadlines, deadlines.
Guess we gotta get used to them...they're not going away.
Amy Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 11:59:57 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Sherril:
Cyber confetti: * ' * ~ ` *
~ ` * ~
* ` ~
Congrats,
Amy Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 12:29:01 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Thanks for the vote of butt confidence, Denise! When's your article coming
out? The RWR, eh? That's so exciting!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 14:05:45 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Now my computer is acting satanic!!! I keep getting shut off on AOL, so I
hope this goes through!!!
WELCOME BACK, LYNDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (You were missed. Can you tell? <G>) I
feel sorry for Bantam - "Luck of the Draw" is one to wait for, so one of
those 10 agents will have a brain in their head!!!
Connie (who also believes, from the picture in TL, that you could fit into an
18-year-old's jeans - or even Susan Lucci's, for that matter!!!)
Subj: Susan & Jan
Date: 96-08-29 14:07:51 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gals - thanks for your advice with my struggling-with-English-hero! Jan,
your advice is very, very helpful! I've been trying to keep that in mind.
And thanks, Susan - I tend to be relying on Pat's lead, since she let
"Calida" stumble over her words a little & still understood her. (Hope the
other editors are as smart!)
<G>
Connie Subj: Golden Heart
Date: 96-08-29 14:08:32 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Denise - Let's keep that category A L I V E then, gal!!! I'll be looking for
RWR, then. Debbie - let's do it!!!!
Connie
Subj: Re:M&Ms
Date: 96-08-29 14:10:56 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - Wonder if the book editors would go for that deal? Should we
experiment with Pat, Kristina, Rose, Lisa, Eileen & Pat B.? (Example:
"Please find enclosed my story...also enclosed is a bag of Hershey
miniatures, to enjoy while you're reading. Of course, you needn't feel
obliged...!"
Only teasing! <G>
Connie Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-08-29 14:36:28 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Okay, Connie, I'll start working on it right away.
Deb Subj: Re:M&Ms
Date: 96-08-29 14:39:25 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Hey, Pat,
If you still read this board, let us know if a delicious chunk of
chocolate would help us any. If so -- Godiva, Here I come! I'll resort to
bribery if that's what it takes.
Deb Subj: Wow
Date: 96-08-29 15:26:20 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
did this board explode or what? I don't even have time to read it all!
I'm still working long hours...I closed last night. And now we're going to
look into buying a mobile home.(just what I need...to pack and move!- oh
boy!) Here On the Navy lot, that's a very smart thing to do, we get all the
money back in the end.
go to go!
Jodi Subj: Re:Message from Pat V.
Date: 96-08-29 17:14:41 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Just got a message from Pat to pass along. Even though the deadline is
getting close, she said not to rush and definitely plot your story out before
writing. It sounds like she'd rather have our stories well done but late
than rushed and not our best efforts.Better in a later issue than not at all.
Patty Subj: Re:M&m's
Date: 96-08-29 17:18:06 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Connie, Don't know if M&M's have ever been used as a bribe to get a lit
story published, but it might work. Just make sure to target a chocaholic
editor!
Patty Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 17:22:09 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Welcome back Lynda. Good luck with the agent search. Sept. Writer's Digest
has a wonderful article on "The Great Agent Dilema." P.S.: they also have
one on "10 Secrets of Sensational Sex Scenes." Check it out, although you
probably could have written it!
Patty
Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 17:24:04 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Sherril, That's wonderful news and it's a Christmas story, too. It sounds
like it's a funny one. Can't wait to read it!
Patty Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-29 17:28:41 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Not to be pushy, but what's with not raising the pay of us writers for 20
years (or more.)? At my real job, our pay rates have been frozen for two
years and you should hear the complaints! The cost of living had never
frozen and the price of the magazines can't have stayed the same for 20
years.
Patty Subj: Re:M&Ms
Date: 96-08-29 17:54:39 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
You're teasing, but I'd do it!!! I'd take them out to lunch, too. Bribery
should work. If someone bribes me, I'm nice to them.
Gail Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-29 17:56:45 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Patty,
I've thought about it, but I wonder if the circulation of the mags hasn't
dropped over the years. I don't know, of course. Plus their cover price is
not that high. What do the rest of you think?
Gail Subj: Re:Sort of Back!!
Date: 96-08-29 17:58:13 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
It's sort of good to have you sort of back. Sorry the eds at Bantam are so
stupid. Your agent will make them sorry they turned down this bestseller.
Gail Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 18:00:02 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
I may be a snob--or anyway a slob--but you are getting rich. You are doing
it! BTW, what did your mom send you???? I guess I have to read the December
issue to find out!`
Gail Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-08-29 18:02:25 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Susan,
Jane Austin and I are very similiar in many ways although they have not yet
made any movies from my novels. Notice I said "yet." I am not ruling anything
out. Noticealso that I am not mentioning any ways in which JA and I are
similar, but I'll think of them.
Gail Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-29 18:04:11 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Jan,
I am mostly waiting on stuff. I have several confessions out there, but I
know sometimes it takes time. And I have a bunch of other material. Maybe
after Labor Day...
Gail Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 18:06:32 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Amy,
I like the cyberconfetti.
^^ That's sort of a Japanese smile. Gail
--- Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 19:06:49 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Sherrill I love it! You are the first person to ever mention that
topic....my mother too sends me gifts from QVC and they are incredibly
unreal! Last year it was an orange(ugh!) cashmere 100 dollar(I cringe when I
open my closet and think of what I could have used that money for!) sweater
that was way too small. I also got a bright yellow fleece jacket from
Victoria's secret that was way too big. I would have looked like a yield
sign in it. I really think she is trying to tell me something, but I just
can't figure out what because she has great taste except for MY gifts. And
she always leaves the price tags on??!!
Tina Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-29 19:07:20 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Gail that is exceptional news! Congrats!
Tina Subj: Golden Heart
Date: 96-08-29 19:11:07 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
The date on the Golden Heart is Dec 10 I do believe, and then the follow up
date to have your entire msc complete is Jan 10. Call the hotline they have
it there. And each category needs 25 entries to stay viable.
Tina Subj: Re:M&Ms
Date: 96-08-29 20:35:01 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Now, of course, Deb, Gail & Patty, you all understand that it could backfire,
too (say, dentist bills, the editor blames you for ruining her diet, etc..!)
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Sherril
Date: 96-08-29 20:36:47 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Hey, Sherril!!! Meant to post this earlier - many congratulations on your
Christmas story to TL!! It does sound like a funny one. That made for
interesting conversation at work, too - a friend of mine bought one of those
cubic zirconia jobs. The thing is HUGE. I said, "Edie, isn't a
bit...um...you know..." She said, "Gaudy? Yeah - I love it!!!"
Connie Subj: Re:Novel #2
Date: 96-08-29 20:38:24 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jan & Gail - Yeah, I'm in the same boat! My submissions have dropped in
number, though I do have a couple of things floating around. That's okay,
girls - the weekend's coming up!
Connie Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 20:40:07 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - I got a marquesite watch from them that was really pretty, but the
thing died after a month. When I took it to the jeweler to fix it, he told
me the cost to fix the watch would be more than how much I paid for it, so I
NEVER bought another thing from them again! (That orange sweater sounds a
lot like Edie's ring! <G>)
Connie Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-08-29 20:40:45 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - The whole thing has to be ready??? But they don't read the whole
thing, do they?
Connie Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-29 21:01:24 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Gail, I think you're right, the circulation may have dropped, but from what I
understand, there aren't as many mags as there were a few years ago, either.
I don't know if that matters. I think they make most of their money from
advertising, so I think the real question is whether their advertising rates
have dropped because their circulation has dropped. Even more than a raise,
I wish they'd pay us on publication, instead of having to wait so long after
publication.
Sherril Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 21:04:41 edt
From: IRWriter
.
RICH!!! ha ha Gail, you card! My mom used to send me stuff like plastic
needlepointed purses, the ugliest silver jewelry I've ever seen, and cheap
knick knacks. She finally stopped sending me clothes, because she knew that
we just didn't have the same taste. Of course, once in a while, she really
came through with some great gifts, too. She had a really big heart, she
just didn't have great taste!
Sherril Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 21:05:44 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Amy, I loved the cyber confetti! Thanks so much for all of your kind words,
everybody! It's amazing what a little contract can do for the old morale.
Sherril Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 21:09:29 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Tina, I'm LOL!!! My mother was addicted to QVC, because she couldn't get out
of the house and go shopping, due to arthritis. I swear, the UPS truck wore
a path to their house. They knew the driver on a first-name basis. My poor
dad, he'd come home from grocery shopping or something, and find more QVC
boxes on the front porch. Drove him crazy. Mom bought more absolute junk
from there! I found a lot of it when she passed away, and then it was very
melancoly. (sp?) She just loved jewelry, and she sent quite a bit of it to
me, mostly trinket stuff. Most of it was very UGLY!
Sherril Subj: Re:M&Ms
Date: 96-08-29 22:26:22 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Nah! The editor'll be so spaced out from the chocolate that she'll be signing
contracts right and left.
Tina, Thanks. What I want is a sale to the Star!!!! See if you can arrange
that, please.
Gail Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 22:28:37 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Tina, Connie,
That orange sweater sounds GREAT!!!! Cashmere!! If it's soft, wear it under
stuff as an undershirt during the winter. I do that with cashmere with holes.
I recommend it.
Gail Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 22:29:19 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
BTW, girls, lest you misunderstand, the only cashmere I do own has holes in
it.
Gail Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-29 22:30:04 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
They don't have a lot of advertising though!
Gail Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-29 22:32:21 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
Hah! I remember one time I was visiting my mom and she said she was going to
give me some towels. I said great! And she started giving me towels that were
unraveled at the end. I said, thanks anyway, but I already have a bunch of
towels like that. (Now that you know about my sweaters with holes and ratty
towels...)
Gail Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-30 15:13:13 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Connie:
You may not have to send in the complete manuscript for the Golden Heart, but
they are going to randomly ask for them. If you are the lucky one chosen and
yours isn't finished, I don't think you're invited to enter again. Not that
any of us bad girls would ever attempt to do anything like that!
Amy Subj: Re:3 day weekend
Date: 96-08-30 15:14:51 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Gang:
Since I gave Lynda my lap top, I won't be able to sign on until after the 3 -
day weekend. Everyone have a great time -- drive safe --- get a lot of
writing done. (Especially you, Lynda!)
Amy Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-30 21:36:13 edt
From: IRWriter
.
No, but what they do have is pretty big accounts, like the cigarette ads that
are always on the back covers. They also have a lot of little display ads in
the back, for fortune tellers, and home schooling, and things like that, and
they are in there every month, so they must have pretty good contracts with
all of them.
Sherril Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-30 21:37:31 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Gail, that sounds just like my mother, they must learn it in "mom school"
somewhere!
Sherril Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-30 21:40:32 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Connie, I"m going to try to make it, and let William worry about dinner! Let
me know the name of the room, OK? Thank you, looking forward to it!
Sherril Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-30 23:09:47 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
When and where? I'll be there.
Jodi Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 00:03:03 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Ditto on Jodi's question. If it's Saturday night, I can't make it--sorry!!
I'm working a liquour sting.
Hope all is well with everyone. Seems like we're all writing away like
crazy!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 00:03:56 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Hey Jodi-
I think I missed it. Are you in DI2, too? Quite a roll you're on! <g>
Lynda C. Subj: QVC
Date: 96-08-31 00:17:50 edt
From: Punkybean
.
MMMmmm, I'm just the opposite. I LOVE QVC, and I order things for my mom.
You ungrateful brats! <vbg>
Phyllis (who's wearing her genuine Jackie Kennedy pearls and Diamonique
earrings) Subj: Re:QVC, etc.
Date: 96-08-31 08:41:00 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
Have to admit I have a few good things from QVC, too. Always wear their
diamonique studs in my second holes in my ears. Have gotten some nice
necklaces, too. They used to sell Swaworski (sp?) crystal. I collect little
crystal animals and S's are the best -- and QVC had great prices. I had to
sit on my hands during one amethyst show -- I wanted some dangling earrings
so bad it hurt. But much of the time, you can find the same items at Target
for less money and save the shipping!
The etc: Have any of you read I DO, I DO...FOR NOW by JoAnn Ross. It was
one of the launch Love & Laughter books from Harlequin this summer. Her
heroine is Russian and has an accent. I really enjoyed that book.
Hope to make it to the chat tonight. Jan
Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 08:57:02 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Lynda,
Yes! I'm in DI 2, my story....Our Sisterly Bickering almost Kill our mom, Or
something like that. they stayed close to the title I gave it, I bet that's a
first. Usally I name them something funny just so they read it and understand
the content of the story.
Jodi Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 08:57:39 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
I know I just asked this, but when is CHAT? This is the 1st wkend I have off
and I can make it!
Jodi Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-08-31 08:59:57 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - Wow, that's good to know! I kind of agree with that rule, too - if
after all that time, the writer hasn't tended to her novel, it's almost as if
she's not attached to it. (And with our projects, whether they're short or
long, we can't stay away from our characters too long!) I think it would be
nice if all the Bad Girls currently working on our novels would go for it,
only because I really think it would inspire us - the ones who aren't writing
a novel will say, "Hey, I'm going to try!" and we can urge them on including
each other. The outcome wouldn't matter, either, but as many of us that can
make Orlando this year would add to the excitement - as well as show that
writers who write for the confessions not only strive for excellence in their
long projects, but in our shorter works, as well! Straight up: BGORs are
the most versatile writers going. Just look at our work for the confessions.
We've got training in nearly every area, and if you look at Gail, who does
sci-fi & literary works, we ain't no chopped liver! <G> Whether we win or
lose GH makes no difference, because contests are subjective, but having a
whole family of sister writers makes it much more fun!
Only a suggestion. If anyone deserves a try with Golden Heart, it's
definitely all of us. I was telling Debbie this week & she had the same
thought that our little gang is a group of winners. I think in years to
come, other people will lurk in her and say "SHE'S on this folder?" and "SHE
is, too?? WOW!!" You watch!
Connie Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-08-31 09:00:06 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Ok, OK-- me too! I like some of the stuff, but you do have to be careful and
know whats out there first. And some of the jewerly prices can't be beat! I
have some nice stuff that I could never buy in a store. I think its bacause
they sell 100's of one ring so they can mark it down where in a store, they
may only have that one ring and they 'need' to sell it.
Jodi Subj: Re:3 day weekend
Date: 96-08-31 09:00:35 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - We'll be waiting for you, girl!
<G>
Connie Subj: LAbor day
Date: 96-08-31 09:01:22 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Anyone doing anything fun? Not me....I wanted to work (time and a half)
but someone beat me to the manager and got the hours.
SO i'll just be sitting here, maybe do a yard sale.
Jodi
Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-31 09:02:35 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Sherril - I was wondering about that. Did that cross anybody's mind, too?
What if the President does go through that legislation & the cigarette
companies can't buy those big, sprawling ads? What effect will that have on
the confessions, which, like most magazines, make their big money in
advertising?
Connie Subj: Moble home
Date: 96-08-31 09:03:38 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Did I tell?
we're thinking about buy a used one. Did I ask if anyone else lives in one
and if you have any suggestions? I'm thinking we're going to buy
anyway....What AM i going to do with all this STUFF i have? I guess it just
sits around and never gets used anyway, like the rider exerciser that I got
:>
SELL IT ALL, is what I think!
Jodi Subj: Re:Moms & Shopping
Date: 96-08-31 09:07:04 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Sherril & Gail - You know what's funny? Speaking of mom's taste & ours?
When I was younger, I always loved these little itty purses, the kind with
the long strap, and my mother used to lug this much bigger bag you could fit
the kitchen sink into! She was fanatic about her purse, too - it was a big
deal, oh, I have to get something really pretty & different from last time!
I used to think, "Why does she carry that giant thing around?"
Well, today, I look for BIG purses. <G> Ironic, huh! I find I can fit a
small notebook or paperback in one of these - or BOTH!!! And I like lots of
compartments, like she did, for makeup, wallet, papers, etc. If I use a
smaller purse, I get a little totebag. Funny how they rub off on you
sometimes - mothers!
Connie Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 09:08:31 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Lynda - You're working on a liquor sting? Hmm. Sounds like a whiskey sour!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-08-31 09:09:10 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Phyllis - those diamonique earrings sound pretty cute!!!!
Connie Subj: Re:QVC, etc.
Date: 96-08-31 09:11:25 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jan - JoAnn Ross is really nice, too! On the Writing Series Romance folder,
she mentioned making brownies & we all asked & asked her for it - and she
posted the recipe!! What a sweet lady!
Connie Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-08-31 09:25:22 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Jodi,
My dad was in the service, and my parents lived in a mobile home for about
8 months. Because they were just a couple, it was a very small one, but the
larger families got double-wides. They were more like a house. Isn't it
amazing how many choices of places to live we have to live in this country?
We're thinking about selling our house and buying a cluster home. I'm tired
of the maintenance. The only thing that's stopping us is that our kids are
worried about the animals not having the "freedom." What about mom's
freedom? Oh, well. The things we do for our children.
Deb Subj: Re:QVC, etc.
Date: 96-08-31 09:28:19 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Connie,
You mentioned how nice Jo Ann Ross was on the Series Romance board. One
thing I've noticed about nice people is that if they're nice before they
become successful, they're generally nice afterwards. When people change, I
think sometimes it's only temporary until someone knocks them to their knees.
Then they're nice again. However, I suspect that Jo Ann has always been a
very nice person. Most romance writers are.
Deb Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 11:32:12 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Connie-
LOLOL. No whiskey sour, sorry! :-D
Trying to find out which liquor stores are selling to minors. Should be a
kick in the butt, especially since I get to wear "Party On Saturday Night"
clothes instead of men's Dacrom polyester!!
I'll miss you guys!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-08-31 11:35:20 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Deb-
We live in a cluster home community, and I love it. There is a huge
greenbelt area winding through all the clusters (which I don't have to mow or
maintain----there is a God) and the house is bigger than our single family
home we sold. 3 BR, 3 BR, 2600 sq feet total. It's awesome. But, yes, you
do have to walk the dogs! Luckily, ours is on the far end of the community
which backs up to a great little park!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-08-31 11:37:07 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
FYI:
Cluster homes are like town homes, except they aren't in a row and seem much
more "house-like." They come in a bunch of different layouts and aren't
narrow like standard townhomes.
Just in case anyone was wondering.
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 11:38:54 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
(message before last should've read "Dacron," and I don't think I spelled
polyester right, either!
Damn tiny keyboard. :-)
Lynda C. Subj: QVC
Date: 96-08-31 11:40:18 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Okay, okay, I plead ignorance.
What the heck is QVC????????
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Out of the Doldrums!
Date: 96-08-31 13:39:26 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
I'd call it disfunctional mom school. They have a school for that, too, you
know.
Gail Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 13:40:42 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Ladies,
I think I'm going out to dinner tonight with my friend. If I get back in
time, I'll join in, but I have my doubts. I'll send my vibes. (lucky you.)
Gail Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-08-31 13:42:47 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Phyllis,
I wonder what your mom has to say ("you should see the stuff my daughter
orders for me")? Don't worry, I wear diamondlike earrings, too.
Gail Subj: Re:QVC, etc.
Date: 96-08-31 13:44:45 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Jan,
I have a friend who collects those crystals. They're expensive!!!! He must
have several thousand dollars worth! I collect all kinds of little animals,
too, in different kinds of minerals, like malachite, etc. There, now all my
secrets have been spilled.
Gail Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-08-31 13:48:13 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
I agree. It's amazing how much we manage to accomplish and still post! I'm
sending eight queries out today on an offbeat, 50,000 word project of mine.
We're definitely upandcoming STARS* * * * * * * * * +++++
Gail Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-31 13:49:41 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
I didn't think that legislation dealt with magazine ads--does it? Mostly
vending machines and no billboards near schools(?)
Gail Subj: Re:Moms & Shopping
Date: 96-08-31 13:52:16 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Are we our mothers? A guy friend I write to online, divorced and living
alone, swears by his mother's domestic advice. She always "bought" linen with
green stamps. He claims he buys linen with pepsi bottle caps. Is he kidding?
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 13:54:39 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
You made me laugh out loud, you sneak, and I was trying to think of something
funny to say to the lady cop. Hey, Lynda, did you watch High Incident the
other night? It centered on a multi-multi car accident due to a fog. I love
these characters.
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 13:56:17 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
You're playing the part of the minor?????? Wow! I'm impressed.
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 13:57:36 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
Sure, blame the keyboard. This keyboard doesn't spell that great, either.
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 13:59:53 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
QVC is one of those home shopping channels. I always think, "wow, I'd like to
order that." But I have great self-control.
Gail Subj: Chat
Date: 96-08-31 14:06:46 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Hey, gang!
Connie isn't sure if she's going to make it tonight, so she asked me to
set up the chat room. I'm not sure how, so someone please help. How's the
original name "TruelyBad"? If that's okay, then we'll meet there at 8:00 est
tonight. See you all there!
Deb Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 14:08:43 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Did I spell that correctly? It doesn't look right to me. TruelyBad?
HELP!
Deb Subj: I Do, I Do. . .
Date: 96-08-31 16:16:06 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Jan,
I read I Do, I Do. . . For Now. It was one of the free books at National
Conference. I really enjoyed it. Made me want to read more of Jo Ann's
books and more Love & Laughter.
Cindi Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-08-31 16:19:59 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Jodi,
My hubby and I lived in a mobile home -- a 14X70 for the first 12 years of
our marriage. Frankly, by the time we moved out, I was absolutely sick of
the thing. My brother and his wife have a really nice one now. He's built
on porches and decks and everything.
You don't have any storage space in a mobile home, but I learned to be
clever. I had stuff under the beds, we put shelves in the closets and
everywhere else we could think of. When we moved into our house, we couldn't
believe all the junk we'd managed to cram into that place.
Cindi Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 16:26:26 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gail-
Dang--missed High Incident again. I liked it the one time I saw it!!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 16:28:20 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gail--
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! :-D
No, I'm not playing the part of a minor. LOL! They have to actually sell to
a minor, so our police cadets are making the buys. BUT.....there has to be a
police officer in the store observing a buy, and no one would make me for a
cop! Nah----I look old in the face. Even my mother told me I was starting
to look my age!!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 18:38:27 edt
From: Dr meow1
.
How about TrulyBad? Is that it?
Julia Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-08-31 18:38:29 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Gail,
When presented with her QVC gift's, my mom ALWAYS says, "I'd rather have the
money you spent."
Phyllis Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-08-31 20:00:47 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
I think our first chat was in the private room entitled TRUElyBad, a takeoff
from the Trues. Let's stay with that one.
Deb Subj: Chat
Date: 96-08-31 20:11:15 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
I think the chat fizzled out, but I think everyone was busy, and that's okay.
My family went to see the movie Jack, and I'll never stop being amazed at
Robin Williams' acting ability. He makes a great kid (and a convincing
woman, I might add). As usual, I cried in the movie.
Deb Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-08-31 20:54:59 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Phyllis,
That's funny!!!! Don't you just hate it when people do that. My friend at
work gets beautiful flowers from her boyfriend. She tells him he's wasting
money, that she'd rather get jewelry. I guess she's waiting for the ring.
(He's going to get it for her, too.)
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 20:57:27 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
How about a story about a teenage boy buying alcohol in a liquor store and
some woman buying some wine and she feels worried about the kid and tries to
help him not get involved in drinking?
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 21:04:59 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gail-
You idea genius! Write it up---I'll Subj: oops--here's the end
Date: 96-08-31 21:05:51 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
(continued from last post)
I'll consult.
Lynda C. :-) Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-08-31 21:12:48 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - Oh, yes! At least what I heard is that cigarette companies can't take
out those full-page cover ads - only little ones, no pics. It's going to
have a big impact on advertising in general, I think.
Connie Subj: Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-08-31 21:14:02 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
When I read the idea of putting M&M's with a manuscript to an editor. My
favorite book editor once sent back an entire manuscript for a lot of
revisions near Halloween time. She enclosed a little pin that said "Your
Plot or Mine?" and a bag of candy corn!!! How could I be mad about the
revisions when she did all that? Just had to tell you all. Jan
Think I might have missed the chat since I didn't realize it was Eastern
time. But I'm going to try to get there now and see what's happening. Jan
Subj: Re:Moms & Shopping
Date: 96-08-31 21:14:17 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - I remember green stamps!!! That was before the days of QVC (& credit
cards, come to think of it!). In my house, it was green stamps but
ESPECIALLY Montgomery Ward!!! (Remember them? LOL!)
Connie
Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-08-31 21:18:05 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Lynda - That sounds like one of those fun busts! (If there IS such a thing!)
We had one in the neighborhood recently, with undercover cops running around
with cell phones and everything. Thank God they did a great job because
there's a school right up the block, and the guys who got busted weren't
selling school supplies, if you know what I mean.
Connie Subj: I missed chat
Date: 96-08-31 21:39:00 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
sorry, and I was home! I just didn't check the board in time to find out the
time.
I'm finishing up my story (DI-3) tonight to send out Mon or should I say tues
since there's no mail on Mon. I just hope Pat gets it in time.
Loved the Moble home we saw. It's older, but the guy (Her X) was a
construction worker and fix t up perfectly! it looks better then some of the
new ones! I think we'll buy! I'm so excited.
Jodi Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-01 10:09:28 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jan - That is so adorable!!! I think that was one very "sweet", loveable
editor!
Along the same lines, from what Sherril & others have said, some writers get
really bent out of shape over revisions. Obviously, everybody's different;
some people will take offense ("why should I change my baby for you?") and
others will have a more professional approach, taking whatever the editor
says into consideration & seeing if they can make it work. Do you (Sherril,
anyone else that has an opinion on this) think that sometimes editors may be
a little careful, not knowing what the author's reaction will be? I know on
our side, we sometimes let experiences with other editors color our
perception and are careful (afraid we're bothering them with questions, how
approachable they are, etc.).
One thing that I found really eye-opening and that I enjoyed very much was
discussing 2 stories' revisions with Pat (Patti, you, too know this part!
<G>). I found that we could talk about the plots & characters with only the
story in mind, going back and forth with, "I think I need to keep this so
that she'll have some depth" for example, while Pat brought other levels into
it which I hadn't seen and found challenging. I think when that happens,
it's beneficial and in fact, the revisions aren't seen as "what I did wrong"
but "what I can do better."
Those were my observations, and in the end, it was LIKE getting candy corn!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-01 11:50:37 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Jan,
That is so funny--"Your plot or mine." I love it.
Gail Subj: Re:I missed chat
Date: 96-09-01 11:52:21 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Jodi,
Go for it. Enjoy! Take your shoes off and relax in your new home!!!! Good
that the guy fixed it up for you!
Gail Subj: Lynda's story
Date: 96-09-01 11:54:03 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
I defer to you. I'm waiting to hear about three confessions. I want a
contract before I write another one. I know you all would just keep sending,
but I have other stuff to do in the meantime.
gail Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-01 11:55:31 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Yes, some editors are good and have exactly the right suggestions for
improvement and others seem not to have actually read the story.
Gail Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-09-01 12:56:27 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Connie-
Yes, it WOULD'VE been a fun bunch of busts, but here's the good news: not
ONE liquor store in our whole city would sell to a minor, and we rotated and
hit them several times. I think that's great.
Lynda C. Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-09-01 14:44:42 edt
From: IRWriter
.
HAHA phyllis. Actually, even though most of the stuff mom sent was icky, I'm
sitting here wearing two rings that were hers, that I've actually come to
really love. One is like a mother's ring, only with all Dimonique, and one
is Black Hills gold with a turquoise stone in it. I never take them off.
Sherril Subj: Re:Raises
Date: 96-09-01 14:46:28 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Well, they'll probably raise their subscription rates for one, and then we'll
NEVER get a raise!
Sherril Subj: Re:Moms & Shopping
Date: 96-09-01 14:48:16 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Connie, it's scary, the older you get, the more you seem to turn into your
mother...at least that's what's happening in my case. I have to stop now,
before I become addicted to QVC! (they did have the John Denver Wildlife CD
before anyone else, so I watched, and I bought!)
Sherril Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-09-01 14:54:06 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Jodi, my mom and dad sold their home in 1979, and moved into a mobile home.
It was an older one, and when I came back home after 2 years in Arizona, I
swore they'd moved and left me no forwarding address! '-). I never really
got used to it, or liked it, but I know they are built better now. Back then
the walls were just made out of that 1/4 inch phoney wood paneling, and no
insulation, and you could hear everything, the TV, the kitchen noise,
everything. It was a double-wide, and they had 2 of those metal storage
buildings for all their "overflow." I think that's a necessity, although the
builders were pretty ingenious with putting storage everywhere they could.
Since my dad passed away, I've been trying to sell it, and it's been nearly 2
years, and still not sold, a perfect nightmare. They depreciate in value, so
be careful there.
Sherril Subj: Re:Chat
Date: 96-09-01 14:55:33 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Deb, I'm so sorry! I planned to be there, and TOTALLY forgot! My husband
was barbecuing, and I was doing the other stuff in the kitchen, and the next
time I looked at the clock, it was 7 pm. oops!
Sherril Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-09-01 14:56:36 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Not me, I'd rather have flowers any day! I never got flowers at work until I
turned 31, and I swore to my boss I was going to marry the first man who ever
sent me flowers at the office. Turns out, I did!
Sherril Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-09-01 15:09:44 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Lynda, that's great. I saw a clerk the other day sell cigarettes (3
different packs of 3 different brands) to a girl who said, "Oh gee, my id's
in the car, I'm in a terrible rush, I've bought them here before." I wanted
to say to that woman, "you should be ashamed," but of course, I didn't.
Sherril Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-01 15:13:28 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Connie, yes, I think the editors sometimes are more careful, trying to gauge
the response of the writer, and really, that's something they shouldn't have
to worry about! They are just trying to do their job. I'm reading a new
book "How to Write a Romance and Get it Published," and that is waht the
first chapter is all about, that this is a business, and we have to act
professional. I'm still amazed at how many people choose to ignore that.
Personally, if I was an editor, and I had an especially hard time with an
author, I'd be much less enclined to buy their next book, and I'm sure that
happens a lot, too.
Sherril Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-01 20:07:49 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Sherril - I wonder sometimes how many of OUR chances are spoiled by
uncooperative, unprofessional writers who see their writing as "oh, so
perfect the way it is." Sometimes I want to add to the end of the cover
letter, "Hey, if you want rewrites, I won't be a dweeb & say no!"
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-09-01 20:41:52 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Sherril-
Next time, feel free to tell her she should be ashamed! ;-)
Lynda C. Subj: Broncos kick butt
Date: 96-09-01 20:44:22 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Hi all-
Just got back from watching the Broncos smear the NY Jets all over the field
at Mile High Stadium. Ahhhhhh, humiliation is so sweet when it's not your
own! Big, drunk obnoxious idiot behind us. Great fodder for
characterization. Too bad someone didn't sell him a brain to go with that
mouth!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-09-01 21:05:46 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
I know, I hate that fake wook panels, but they took them out and painted the
walls so it looks nice. On and She's only asking $5,000 for it...so there's
no way we could lose much money. On the Navy lots, people are always buying
and selling...it's just the way of the Navy.
Jodi Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-09-01 23:53:57 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Okay, maybe I wasn't completely honest. I keep all the good QVC things for
myself. And I send me mom the impulse buys that make you ask, "What in the
heck was I thinking of when I bought this??!!!"
Phyllis Subj: Re:Broncos kick butt
Date: 96-09-02 11:57:32 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
Oh-oh. I picked the Jets (regional loyalty). Glad the stores weren't selling
to kids. I guess I got drunk a few times at 16. Now if I have one drink a
year it's a lot.
Gail
Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-09-02 11:59:06 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Phyllis,
Well, now we know. Don't tell mom though. My friend in the Virgin Islands
just bought a thick irish sweater on QVC. She's tuned to that channel.
Gail Subj: Labor Day
Date: 96-09-02 11:59:46 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Have a fun Day, buddies.
Gail Subj: Rest, relax, and party!
Date: 96-09-02 12:13:18 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Hope you have a nice day!
we're going to start cleaning and packing, I think we're going to make an
offer today on the M home.
Jodi Subj: Re:Guess what?
Date: 96-09-02 15:40:29 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Tina --
Congratulations!! I've never tried them before...although I LOVE their
title!!
Larita Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-02 16:08:29 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Congrats Deb, Jodi, Patty, Denise, Connie, Gail,and Sherril, on your recent
sales!!!!! I got a contract for my prenuptial story for Dec. TR....also a
rejection from TL ... :(
Larita
Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-02 16:20:33 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
All right, Larita!!!! Dec. TR is amazingly, almost entirely Bad Girls of
Romance!!! It's interesting how it's gone, from the first DI to the one
coming up - the stories still en route to Pat!
I think Patty deserves to take a bow for the magnifique job as coordinator of
DI 3! And Larita - how does it feel to see the "fruits of your labor"? <G>
Connie (Don't worry about the rejection from TL - I got one from TR for one
that was there for a while! The ladies over there must be cleaning house!
<G>) Subj: Vacation
Date: 96-09-02 16:21:00 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Hey, girls!!
I missed you all terribly...(Thanks, Amy, for passing on my "hello"!)
I got some excellent stuff for my book...Went on a tour of the Okaloosa
Correctional Institute, got lots of info there....Talked to people at a
museum, the newspaper, etc...But the best (and WORST) thing was the
coincidence that I just happened to run into this guy who overheard me
talking to someone else about the research I was doing, and he began talking
and didn't shut up for over an hour....The good thing was, he was very
informative and his opinions and attitudes will fit right in and give me the
background I need for my book...and they only enforce what I had been told by
my uncle were the attitudes of this town. The bad thing was, he was
incredibly racist; yes, KKK, and it scared, and angered, the everliving sh**
out of me. By the end of our "interview", I had a migraine from clenching my
teeth so hard in order to keep from spitting in his face. I was shaking,
literally, with disgust, anger, you name it...He was so self-righteous, too,
which, (yes, this is a generalization, but I'm going to make it anyway...) I
think, is SOOO typical for people who are SOOOOO stupid and wrong....This guy
actually has a brother whose initials are KKK; is that sick or what?? The
other thing that was amazing to me is all the confederate flag stuff
everywhere, just sold at the t-shirt shops like it's okay...lighters,
tshirts, bumper stickers, hats....
I mean, I'm not naive enough to think that this type of attitude doesn't
exist, but to such a great and obvious extent?????? (Oh, jeez, there goes my
blood pressure.....) How can anyone be PROUD to be so ignorant and hateful?
:(
Larita Subj: Re:Broncos kick butt
Date: 96-09-02 19:40:40 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gail!!!
You picked the Jets?!
God, they played so poorly I actually felt sorry for them. They looked so
downtrodden. Trent told me to stop acting like a touchy-feely wuss----they
get big bucks to play so they shouldn't suck, and if they do they don't
deserve sympathy.
That's a man for ya.
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-03 16:01:13 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Great news about your sale Larita! We'll be roomates!
Patty Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-03 16:06:03 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Larita, Did you go on vacation with the intent of doing research for a
novel? That's such a cool way to spend your vacation time. Too bad you ran
head on into such disgusting racism, but, you're right. Some people do seem
proud of having such backward ideas. It's difficult to reconcile with a
civilized society, but it's more prevelant than we like to think. Where's
your novel set?
Patty Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-03 16:35:15 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Well today I'm one for one...rejection from TR (D2) but sold another story to
Affaire de Coeur!
Tulsa was great and I had a nice time visiting friends!! Good to be back
tothe old computer though, my fingers were itchy the whole time!!
Tina Subj: Pix
Date: 96-09-03 18:11:32 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Hey gals check out your new RWR on page 13 is a picture of me and Lynda with
two pals in between. Laura( who Amy and Lynda frequently mention on board)
is sitting next to Lynda.
Lynda is sitting right behind Laura DeVries( who is sitting second from right
on front row). Then next to Lynda is Laura then next going left is another
friend Maggie, then me in light colors.
Tina Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-03 18:18:37 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Patty --
Yes, I did go (mostly) for the reason of researching...The novel is set half
in Crestview, FL, which is where I was, and half in St. Louis, which is, of
course, where I live.
Larita Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-03 18:59:27 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Larita,
You good bad girl, you.
Gail Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-03 19:02:16 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Larita,
Ya reap what ya sow, ya know what I mean? That guy's gonna step in a big pile
o' somethin nasty.
Gail Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-03 19:03:43 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Tina,
You are cool. Affaire d' cour double bingo.
Gail Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-03 19:06:21 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
TiIna,
I'm looking at you right now--I think.
Gail Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-03 21:33:01 edt
From: IRWriter
.
I wonder the same thing, Connie! It would be nice if we could let the editor
know somehow that we are willing to rewrite, if necessary. maybe something
like, "I'm always happy to work with you," or something that sounds
professional in the cover letter. Of course, then there's always the danger
of sounding as if you EXPECT you'll have to rewrite it...and sending a
negative message to the editor. It's so hard to know just what each editor
wants until you work with them, but we have to get used to that, right?
Sherril Subj: Re:Lynda
Date: 96-09-03 21:33:46 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Yeah, you know, I really felt bad that I didn't say something to that clerk,
it really made me uncomfortable, because it was so clear what the girl was
doing.
Sherril Subj: Re:Moble home
Date: 96-09-03 21:34:23 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Whoa, Jodi, what a deal! Go for it! ;-)
Sherril Subj: Re:QVC
Date: 96-09-03 21:34:57 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Ah Phyllis, now I get it! That must be what my mom did, too! ;-)
Sherril Subj: Re:Pix
Date: 96-09-03 21:37:08 edt
From: IRWriter
.
So Cool! I haven't gotten my RWR yet, I can't wait to see the pictures
!
Sherril Subj: Re:Tina
Date: 96-09-03 21:37:46 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Yo, Tina!!! #2 for you on Affaire du couer! (I took French for 4 years in
high school; you'd think I'd remember how to spell "affair of the heart!"
<G>) Double congratulations!!
Connie Subj: Re:RWR
Date: 96-09-03 21:38:16 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Oh, I didn't get mine in the mail yet!!! Can't wait to see all you Bad Girls
together!!
Connie Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-03 21:46:14 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Larita & Sherril - I knew someone like that, a co-worker who used to come up
to me even before I had my coffee and start talking in a way that really
ruins the rest of the morning. He knows I'm Hispanic, so he didn't go there,
but he hit just about everyone else. The worst thing he said was, "They
should have all been destroyed during World War II." After that, I just
avoided him altogether, because who wants to hear that garbage? I can't see
anyone justifying the suffering that went on in Germany in World War II, a
time that showed the darkest side of humanity.
Connie
Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-03 21:56:08 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Anyone who wrote stories for August issues - I think those are on their way!
I got mine today & a good thing, too, 'cause I was broke! <G> Also, I've
got the October issues of True Romance, True Love and True Experience, so
please let me know if anyone's in there! Cindi, I keep thinking your town
bad boy story is in this batch - is it?
My mafioso story made it into Oct. TR, but it's at work! (My manager was
reading it when I left! <G> The master mechanic, who fixes our machines,
read it, too! He said, "The girl looks hot!") It's called "Married to a
Mobster", and he's a cute mafioso! Also, I thought it was so nice - someone
wrote into TL who liked my large-size model story! So I had a good day!
(Almost as good as my kids, who got goodies for school with the check!!!)
Connie
Subj: Re:Vacation
Date: 96-09-04 09:14:35 edt
From: DCamp76
.
Gee Tina, I buy enough magazines as it is--now I've got to buy Affaire
deCoure, too. You BAAAAd girl! Congratulations!
=Denise= Subj: Re:I missed chat
Date: 96-09-04 10:06:25 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
I missed the chat too. Guess it just wasn't meant to be. My hubby was
installing a tape drive on my computer. Now I can back up the -whole thing-
on tape.
Cindi Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-04 10:11:25 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Got word today that Pat wants my story for the January TR. I've never heard
anything on the story I submitted for December, so I'm thinking it's a no go
-- or at least on hold for a while.
I got my copy of TE in the mail, too, and the story I was supposed to have in
there got bumped. Maybe next month. But I'm supposed to have one in the
October TR, too, so somebody let me know. It's about the woman with
Muchausen's Syndrome by Proxy.
Cindi
Subj: sinus surgery
Date: 96-09-04 10:15:56 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Just checking in. I had surgery on my sinuses yesterday and I'm still a
little groggy. Trying to take it easy, but that's hard for me to do. I
really need a lap top, then I could do this in bed.
Cindi Subj: Re:Pix
Date: 96-09-04 10:48:18 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Tina:
Look closer....that's me, not Lynda! :-)
Amy Subj: Re:Sale
Date: 96-09-04 10:51:21 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Tina:
Congrats! Way to go. Subj: Re:Pix
Date: 96-09-04 11:35:41 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Amy-
i'm on the other end, but heck, it's so small and blurry, I could hardly
recognize myself. Except for the schnaz!
Lynda C. Subj: Congrats all around
Date: 96-09-04 11:40:24 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Cindi-
Sorry about your sinuses, but congrats on your story for January!
Tina-
Story #2!!!!! Congrats!
Connie-
Can't wait to read your story about the mafioso! You do wise guys SOOOO
well!
Anyone else I missed: congrats.
Welllllll, I've gotten two rejections from TR this week. :-(
The one I got yesterday had a really nice note attached, though, so it wasn't
so bad. Plus, I got my August check. Hard cold cash always dampens the
blow.
I did get another bite from an agent (did I already tell you guys this)???
Pesha Rubenstein. What the heck, not all ups, but not all downs, either!
Talk to you all soon.
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Congrats
Date: 96-09-04 12:10:19 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Congrats Tina!!!!!!!
Cindi, how are you feeling today????
Phyllis Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-04 13:11:21 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Sherril, I do say in my cover letter that I'm happy to rewrite. Sometimes
I worry that it sounds negative, too, but mostly I hope it shows a
willingness to act on suggestions. I once read an article by ByLine's editor
Kathyrn Fanning where she talked about how she likes to give suggestions but
has gotten gun shy after some writers took them the wrong way. She suggested
that if you value an editor's advice just say so, tell her that you'll take
it in the spirit intended. So far, I've had great luck doing that and have
learned more than I probably could have in dozens of classes. Patty
Subj: Re:Tina
Date: 96-09-04 13:13:00 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Tina, Great news. SOmeone at Affaire De Couer must love your work!
Patty Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-04 13:14:50 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Connie, Could you please check Oct TR for my visiting nurse story? It was
supposed to be in in AUg but got bumped.
Thanks, PAtty Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-04 13:16:32 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Connie, IT must have been such a boost to read a reader's lettter
complimenting one of your stories. I agree. That story was uplifting and
very well done.
Patty Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-04 13:18:12 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Cindi, Wow, you got a Jan. acceptance already. That's great! Hope you're
recovering fast from your surgery.
Patty Subj: Re:New Avenue
Date: 96-09-04 13:32:02 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Hey everyone, just read this in a chapter newsletter and thought I'd share:
Good Housekeeping magazine is accepting short stories (1,000-5,000
words)--contemporary women's fiction in all genres (except sci-fi). Send
completed ms with cover letter to: Anne Quarfoot, Fiction Editor, 9598th
Ave., NY, NY 10019.
Sorry, it didn't say how much they paid.
Amy Subj: Re:sinus surgery
Date: 96-09-04 14:18:36 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Cindi,
You, poor baby. Congrats on the sale though.
Gail Subj: Re:New Avenue
Date: 96-09-04 14:21:18 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Amy,
Thanks! I had sent for GH guidelines about a month ago--never got them. But
I'm happy to hear that fiction is in! I'm sure the pay is good, too.
Gail Subj: Re:New Avenue
Date: 96-09-04 14:22:42 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Some people are just sick. We will never be able to understand.
Gail Subj: Amy
Date: 96-09-04 16:21:39 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
By golly that is you Amy...well you and Lynda are so tight you too are even
starting to look alike!
UGH Cindy poor baby, I've taken care of some of you poor sinus surgery
patients. Just makes you wanna blow your nose! Take two percodan and call
me in the morning! I'll be praying for your swift
recovery!
Tina Amy thanks for the info-I just entered a short in a contest that she
was judging (Lee Quarfoot from GH) Subj: Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-04 18:27:53 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
My sinuses are killing me, and I just found out that one of our area
hospitals is starting to offer accupuncture. Does anyone know about this?
I'm willing to try anything. Medicine makes me feel so spaced that I
hesitate to take anything unless it's right before bedtime. And the thought
of surgery scares me half to death.
Deb Subj:
Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-04 20:35:04 edt
From: EdnaCK
.
Deb,
I don't know about sinus problems, but I have a friend who has acupuncture
and acupressure treatments for her arthritis and she swears it helps. It
can't hurt to try. - Susan Subj: Re:Amy
Date: 96-09-04 20:58:33 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Can you guys steer me? I got the new RWR & looked through it frantically,
but I'm not sure which picture it is y'all are in. Is it one of the ones
that shows a lot of people at the Heart of Texas? Which one? What's
everybody wearing in it?
I tried so hard, since I know what Tina and Lynda look like - I figured Amy
wasn't far!!!
Connie Subj: Re:New Avenue
Date: 96-09-04 21:00:01 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - I agree with Gail - the pay probably IS good! I'll wait to see what
they publish first to get an idea, but that 5,000 sounds easier!! (Wish I
was like Gail & Tina - those guys can do wonders with few words!!! <G>)
Connie Subj: Patty - TR
Date: 96-09-04 21:09:07 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Patty - I double-checked, but the nursing home is still bumped (and I knew
because I actually looked for it as soon as it came! <G> I'm still waiting
to read that one, too!). You know what I bet's going to happen? It's going
to hit the month you have 2 in there already - and your check is gonna be B i
g!!!
Connie Subj: Re:Bumped
Date: 96-09-04 21:10:32 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
By the way, I'm bumped again, too! My minister story didn't make it into TL.
Next month TL has the story about the naval officer sooooooo...who knows?
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Enclosing gifts...
Date: 96-09-04 21:16:58 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Patty - I agree 100%! I write that, too, just very simply with, "if have
any questions or need changes, please feel free hesitate to call me."
Sometimes I leave out "need changes", hoping the editor STILL knows she can
give me a buzz if she wants something changed! Hey, better a changed story &
a sale - and a good relationship with that editor, who'll remember you took
her suggestions cheerfully, than a story that lays around unsold, but
hey...it's exactly the way you want it!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:sinus surgery
Date: 96-09-04 21:20:14 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Cindi - Hope you're feeling better, girl! And congratulations on the Jan.
sale (advance notice!). If I can suggest - get that laptop when you can. It
really does come in handy, and you can relax with it, and when we're relaxed,
it shows in our writing. I got mine right after my upper respiratory
infection, which lasted for 3 weeks.
All this talk about allergies - girls, my son's 8 and he's going through it.
His allergy affects his eyes. Does it get better once the cold weather comes
in? I feel so sorry for him. It's an everyday thing. Is that the way it's
been for all of you?
(I feel for you, too! <G>)
Connie Subj: Re:Oct. TR
Date: 96-09-04 21:24:24 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Cindi - Give me a little more info on your story, the Mauchasuan (spelling's
wrong, I'm sure). The only thing I see is "I Found My Son Hanging From the
End of a Rope." Is that it?
Connie
Subj: WORK!
Date: 96-09-04 23:02:46 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Will it ever end? My feet are killing me! But atleast my back stop hurting
after I bought a Good bra.
Now, I have to finish on my packing....I just hope things wind down by Oct.
Jodi Subj: dinner talk
Date: 96-09-04 23:13:55 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
I went to a Mystery Writers dinner tonight and some of the people were
talking about the old McFadden. They also put out True Detective or
something. I also found out my friend wrote seven McFadden (full-length)
romances--she then nmoved to Dell with her editor and wrote five.
Lucky woman. Interesting, huh. I didn't know Mcfadden had published BOOKs.
Gail Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-04 23:16:21 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
BTW, I have had accupuncture and accupressure. Find out about insurance
coverage. In some states the insurer has to cover it, so they will. I
actually preferred accupressure, but accunpuncture is okay (so is
chirorpractic--in fact my current chiro said that it helped his allergies a
lot).
Gail Subj: Re:Rest, relax, and party!
Date: 96-09-05 00:48:23 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
Jodi-
Hope your offer on the mobile home will be accepted. It's nice to have space
that belongs just to you. Of course, then you also get the headaches of home
ownership too, but it's worth it.
We're getting a new roof on our house and they're starting the work tomorrow.
I don't think I'm going to be able to get anything done for a week.
Susan Subj: Re:sinus surgery
Date: 96-09-05 00:53:03 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
Cindi-
Hope you're feeling better. My dad had the same surgery and it really did
help him.
Susan Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-05 00:54:41 edt
From: Magicwrd
.
Connie-
That's so neat that someone wrote in about one of you stories. It really
brings home that fact that your writing is out there touching people's lives
and making them think.
Susan Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-05 02:19:02 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Okay Connie now turn to page 13. Top picture.Row one has 9 people showing.
With your finger on the first person on right in row one...count and move to
the left...1,2,3,4,5. Look back to row 2... ME! See I did shed some ugly
fat! Okay so you need a magnifying glass!!!!
Tina Subj: Girls in RWR
Date: 96-09-05 15:05:44 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - LOLOL!!! Okay, I see you - boy, but you do look different! (From the
picture you sent me, I mean!) Now where's Lynda there & which one's Amy? Is
Phyllis somewhere in that shot, too?
Connie Subj: Re:Girls in RWR
Date: 96-09-05 16:16:12 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Connie,
I don't have my RWR yet, but Phyllis tried to keep her fat behind out of
photos. <g>
Phyllis Subj: Re:Girls in RWR
Date: 96-09-05 19:10:34 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Girls,
We need to see you in person!
Gail Subj: Re:Girls in RWR
Date: 96-09-05 19:13:04 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Phyllis - Not fair! I wanted to see you!!! (And besides - the gals all
verified, you're a cutie!)
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-05 21:33:21 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Well, the surgery really wasn't that bad. I'm just tired, mainly, and that
should go away soon. i talked to a lot of people before I decided to go this
route, but everyone I spoke with said it was the right decision for them. I
am just tired of spending half my life on antibiotics for one sinus infection
after another.
Thanks for all the nice notes and prayers.
Cindi Subj: Re:Oct. TR
Date: 96-09-05 21:35:51 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Oh my goodness! no -- that story is not mine -- shocking title, though. My
story is told from the husband's pov. He talks about how perfect he thought
his wife was, then he finds out she was starving their little girl. My title
was "I had to betray my wife to save my child."
Cindi Subj: Re:Girls in RWR
Date: 96-09-05 22:10:25 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Phyllis-
If you are fat, I'm tall, blonde, and demure.
:-D Lynda C. Subj: More agent bites
Date: 96-09-05 22:13:38 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Okay Gals-
I'm batting .500 with these agents now. I just got another positive response
from my batch of ten queries. That makes two yes's, one no, and one fix
this, this, this, and then maybe. (Would that mean I'm batting .750)?
Wish me luck! (Preferably "Luck of the Draw")! ;-)
Lynda C. Subj: Re:More agent bites
Date: 96-09-05 23:27:00 edt
From: Punkybean
.
Way to go on your positive response. I've got all my fingers crossed for
you.
Phyllis Subj: Re:Girls in RWR
Date: 96-09-06 00:12:47 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
Well, we're definite that you're not demure.
But you sure must be
talented!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you realize how hard it is to get an agent to respond to anything less
than a rewrite of the Bible, girl? We'll keep all hundred or so of our
fingers crossed for you.
Gail Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-06 00:13:41 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Cindi,
Glad it's getting better. I'm sure you'll be happy you did it when you can
breathe again.
Gail Subj: Re:Oct. TR
Date: 96-09-06 00:15:03 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Cindi,
Terrible subject. I'm sure it's a good story. I guess you heard about the
woman in NY.......
Gail Subj: Re:More agent bites
Date: 96-09-06 08:33:41 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Lynda --
Fantastic!!!!!...but not surprising in the least!! They recognize talent
when they see it!
Larita Subj: Re:More agent bites
Date: 96-09-06 15:37:02 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
YEAH on the agents.... sounds great for you!
Jodi Subj: Busy
Date: 96-09-06 15:38:14 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
DOES IT EVER END??
I've got to quit my day job.... ;0 :) but really this move is stressing me
out!
Jodi Subj: Re:Busy
Date: 96-09-06 15:39:26 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Jodi,
It's like my friend says: It's Friday. Only two more work days until Monday!
Gail Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-06 16:02:04 edt
From: Asandrin
.
How many of us are going to enter the Golden Heart this year? If I'm
dedicated and write 2 pages each and every day I will be done with my book
right on time. (the dedicated part is what's worrying me!) Lynda wants me
to enter three books. For such a short poop, she sure is a slave driver. I
agree with whoever said we should try and get as many people from this folder
to enter (was that you, Connie?)
Amy Subj: Re:Lunar Phases
Date: 96-09-06 16:04:17 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Okay, I've had enough of this Lunar cycle rejection phase karma do do stuff.
Someone come and get me when it's over. I'll be out back in the hamock with
a Mai Tai!
Amy Subj: Re:Patty - TR
Date: 96-09-06 17:32:11 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Connie, Thanks for checking. I don't suppose anyone likes to be dumped, but
this one just seems to be taking a long time. Maybe you're right and I'll
have three in one issue. That would be so cool!
Patty Subj: Re:sinus surgery
Date: 96-09-06 17:35:54 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Connie, If your son has fall allergies that effect his eyes, it probably
will get better after the first frost. My eyes are irriating me, too, from
allegies. When I opened my eyes this morning I had to remind myself I wasn't
losing my sight, that the blurriness would clear up after a steamy shower.
Patty Subj: Re:More agent bites
Date: 96-09-06 17:39:31 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Great news Lynda! Everytime you open your mailbox must seem like the "Luck
of the Draw."
Patty Subj: rejection blues
Date: 96-09-06 18:46:30 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Amy why is it when I get a rejection and a acceptance in the mail the same
day I still moan about the rejection? And lately my rejections are nicer
than my acceptance letters??!!
Tina Subj: Re:More agent bites
Date: 96-09-06 19:10:17 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Congratulaltions, Lynda. You're on a roll!
Cindi Subj: Re:Agents
Date: 96-09-06 20:53:10 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Lynda - Let us know as soon as you hear something!!! That's great - you're
one of the best examples of keeping the avenues open, and something's gonna
hit!
Connie Subj: Re:Busy
Date: 96-09-06 20:54:25 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - Here, here! It doesn't end, Jodi! :-D And lest we forget:
tomorrow, I have to clean the house, too, before anything else. Then watch
an Armand Assante movie, and then...work, work, work!!
Connie Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-06 20:56:39 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - Yes, I think as many of us as are able should try! Don't even worry
about winning or losing - we'll just be in it & cheer each other on! It'll
be just another mile along the journey - but what fun to walk it together!!
(Also: that 2 page a day rule sounds excellent. I think of it as 1,000
words per day that I have to accomplish, which is around the same amount!)
Connie Subj: Re:sinus surgery
Date: 96-09-06 20:58:07 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Patty - That's exactly what Brandon has, the same way you describe it!! I
had to put a warm compress on his eyes just to get everything off them & get
them to open this morning!
Connie Subj: worse than rejection
Date: 96-09-06 21:24:13 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Fellow Sufferers,
Here's my worse-than-rejection story.
I got my mail this evening and with it a magazine with a story of mine in it.
Good? Well, I never got an acceptance letter. I never signed a contract. And
I withdrew the story and sold it to someone else.
It's like once something leaves your hands, anything can happen. So now I
have to go to this other woman and tell her about this. Plus I couldn't call
these people (they apologized in a note) because they are unlisted and didn't
give me a phone number. So darn unprofessional!!!! It's nice to be wanted,
but could they not have mentioned it first?
Gail Subj: Re:Busy
Date: 96-09-06 21:25:48 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Which Armand Assante movie? I love that movie Bellazaire the Cajun. Did we
discuss this? My memory is on the downswing.
Gail Subj: Re:Busy
Date: 96-09-06 22:02:05 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Oh my gosh Gail...that is incredible??!!! Do they at least pay well????
Tina
Lynda I forgot to congragulate you..CONGRATS SWEETIE! Please e me and let
me know what you want to put in the newsletter. I swear you are the only one
in a 70+ organisation who has something sold or pending every single month.
You ARE on a roll!! Subj: Re:Busy
Date: 96-09-06 23:20:48 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Gail,
I love that! I know that's how it feels
Jodi Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-06 23:21:25 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
I don't know what "golden heart' is...a Romance book comp? Right?
Jodi Subj: Settings
Date: 96-09-06 23:26:58 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
I'm still fighting with the setting in my book. I want to use real Lakes and
Rivers....but then I'd need to use the city names...then if I do, i just know
how much I can make fictional... Like I may want to move the real indian
reservaion about 60miles North and people who live there(Where I grew up) and
anyone with a map would know that's wrong..I just don't know what to do. I
guess use real names and hope no one cares about the changes I make. Anyone
have this problem?
Jodi Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-07 00:03:27 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Jodi --
I'm using a real town and taking some real places from it, but many of the
places (churches, etc.) are fictional, esp. since they won't be portrayed in
a very nice way...
Larita Subj: More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-07 11:51:06 edt
From: JWBOIES
.
Have to tell you about a few Saturdays ago at the pet store. A couple came
in with their parrots, macaws and cockatoos for entertainment. The one
parrot sang a song, said several things that escape me, but my favorite was
when he said, "I'm a BAAAAAAAD bird!"
Jodi -- hasn't anyone told you about the holiday season in retail? You keep
saying it will get better in October, and I hate to be the one to tell you
that by the end of December, you will want to sleep for a month! But I love
it. Guess I'm a junky for the holiday spirit when you work retail.
And isn't it the truth that we think more about a rejection than an
acceptance? Anyone have hints on the attitude shift we need to make to
celebrate our successes? How many people wish they could write and sell?
When we do succeed it is a wondrous thing -- this should be the event that
sticks in our mind. Not the other stuff.
Lynda -- My son was so proud of the day he turned 18 and could legally buy
cigarettes in Minnesota. Not that I'm happy that he smokes, but I would have
like to have seen it when he proudly showed the clerk his drivers license and
she wished him, "Happy Birthday."
I always enjoy my visit here, but it's time for me to get on with the
Saturday errands. Jan
Subj: Re:worse than rejection
Date: 96-09-07 12:29:48 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Gail, What a nightmare! And you're right, it is unprofessional. Too bad you
did all the right things, withdrawing the story before submitting it
elsewhere, and still got burned.
Patty Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-07 12:34:13 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Jodi, I'm doing the same as Larita. My book is set in Boston, in fact in a
actual Boston neighborhood, but I've renamed the street to one that doesn't
actually exist so I can add my own elements. I'm blending a lot of real
features of the city and of the real hospital the story is set in with
ficional elements. I think it gives you the best of both approaches; being
able to use your creativity to invent realities and being able to borrow from
real life.
Patty Subj: Re:worse than rejection
Date: 96-09-07 13:21:48 edt
From: Sem Duvida
.
Gail-
If it's not one thing it's another. We writers can never catch a break, even
when we're getting published. Maybe somebody didn't get God's story right in
the Bible and he's been publishing writers ever since. (I meant to say,
punishing, but maybe getting published is punishment. At least in this
case.)
Susan Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-07 13:28:28 edt
From: Sem Duvida
.
Jodi-
Have you ever read Jenni Cruisie's books? I'm sure lots of authors do this,
but she's who I'm thinking of off the top of my head. She made up a city and
I think she's used it in all her books. I'm sure she bases the descriptions
on a real city, but she just made up another name for it. You could do that
so if you make some stuff up, no one will ever know.
My novel is set San Francisco and I have to keep going around checking to
make sure I'm describing the places I talk about accurately. I just
discovered that one of the character's apartments isn't quite like I
remembered, but hopefully no one will be pulling over to the side of the Bay
Bridge to check it out. Next time I'm definitely making up a city.
Susan Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-07 13:30:33 edt
From: Sem Duvida
.
Jan-
Cute story about the bird. He'd be great for a secondary character in a
story.
Susan Subj: Denise
Date: 96-09-07 14:15:01 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
BTW I was wondering what happened to Denise...her modem got fried. So she
and Lynda are in the shop together I guess!
Tina Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-07 15:27:43 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jodi - Interesting topic! My novel is set in Miami, Florida, where there's a
large concentration of Cubans. Like Patty, I'm staying away from being too
specific with streetnames, but staying true to the area itself, to give it
that flavor.
Connie Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-07 15:30:56 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Susan - that's neat, that she made up a city & uses it in her books! Have
you ever noticed, too, that the setting really adds flavor to the story? The
city I've used the most for the characters to be "on location" <G> is New
York City. I've used Miami a few times, but the Big Apple never seems to be
at a loss for sparking the imagination!
Connie
Subj: Re:Denise
Date: 96-09-07 15:31:38 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - I was wondering, too! Hope you come back soon, Denise!
Connie Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-07 15:36:20 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jan - Yeah, I like that story, too!! By the way, the movie I watched
yesterday with Armand (sigh!) was "Fatal Instinct" (did you see that one,
Gail?). It was hilarious! There was a part where he goes to the pet shop
after having an affair; he feels guilty and wants to get his wife (who's
plotting to murder him) a gift. Rosie O'Donnell has a cameo as the pet shop
lady, and she's screaming over all these chattering birds, "Most men get
their wives flowers when they cheat. You get her a live animal!!!"
I thought you'd enjoy that, working in a pet shop!
<G>
Connie (who thinks that whole line is filled with one crazy idea for a
confession!! Remember the Flintstones, with the dodo bird who told on Fred
by screeching, "Frantic City! Frantic City!" instead of ATLANTIC City!
LOLOL!)
Subj: news
Date: 96-09-07 16:08:43 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Guess what? Mail just arrived. I won the Writers' Journal Contest I entered.
I get published in the Jan/Feb issue and get a free copy of the 1997 issue of
Writer's Market. I'm thrilled as I can't afford a WM and have to keep goin to
the library!!
And I was just sitting heregetting a major headache trying to work on my
novel entry for the Silouhette contest...who's deadline is the 15th. I don't
know what it is but if I just say the word novel I get a stress headache. So
I have to psych myself out and pretend I'm writing a short story!
Tina Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-07 18:58:24 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Tina,
You're a winner, baby doll. And we know you. We can even ask you to look up
listings for us in your prize. Sensational.
Gail Subj: Getting punished
Date: 96-09-07 19:00:53 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Guys,
And the much worse news is that there's a whole long editorial in this
iditoic magazine that is rampant anti-Semitism. Can you believe that?
I must be in the Twilight Zone. If God wanted to publish me, couldn't he have
published me in the Atlantic Monthly?
Gail Subj: Locales
Date: 96-09-07 19:04:04 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
I use some real locales as story settings, which is why I have good maps
nowadays and other research material.
I think it's fine to make up street names in real towns.
I set a novel in Michigan--have never been there, but I can imagine what's
it's like, can't I?
Connie, I've used South Florida, too, but I know the geography a bit. I guess
you do, too.It's certainly an interesting setting.
Gail Subj: DI4
Date: 96-09-07 20:15:28 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
So are we DI4 ing???? I may not ever get in but I am determined! It's a good
excersize in patience longsuffering and it helps my writing skills! What's
up this month Connie?
Tina Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-07 22:43:26 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - That's the worst!!! That editor actually has time for that? That
editorial doesn't sound worth the paper it's printed on.
Connie Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-07 22:44:08 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - It's a banner year for you!!! Congratulations! (Imagine what NEXT
year's going to bring??)
Connie Subj: Re:Locales
Date: 96-09-07 22:45:24 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - LOLOL!!! You've used Michigan & haven't been there? Hey - for my
first novel, I used Vermont, and I've NEVER been there! (But movies do help,
don't they?)
<G>
Connie
Subj: Re:DI4
Date: 96-09-07 22:47:48 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Is everyone game for DI4? (Tina - I didn't get into DI3, either! I ran my
storyline past Pat, but she passed on "Love Bites When Your Boyfriend's a
Vampire", so I sent it to one of the other gals!) I'll join in for DI4, and
hey - any takers for the coordinator? Here's your predecessors: Larita,
Patty & me!
Connie Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-07 22:50:41 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Does anyone know how much of the novel gets sent it originally for GH? I
didn't see anything in the new RWR about it (but I thought there was supposed
to be something in there). All I saw was that blue slip to become a judge,
which I think would be kinda interesting, but don't know what would be
expected.
Connie Subj: Re:Rewrite
Date: 96-09-07 22:53:49 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
I have a rewrite to do for Pat (which got sidetracked by about 18,000 words
of novel!! Isn't it maddening how you get focused in on one thing?) which I
want to complete this weekend. It's a whole new ending and - get this - my
hero's Puerto Rican!
With a Puerto Rican confession hero & a Cuban novel hero, I'm having a ball
with these ethic characters!
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-07 22:58:27 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
It was unbelievable stuff. The rest of the magazine was normal. Why in the
world????
Gail Subj: Re:Locales
Date: 96-09-07 22:59:19 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
For instance, I know what a small town is like. I know what weather is like.
Ya know?
Apparently you do know.
Gail Subj: ethnic
Date: 96-09-07 23:01:36 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Go with ethnic. It's in. Big market there, girl. Did I mention there is a
whole section of black romance at the B&N at 53rd and Lex? Well, there is.
Gail Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 00:45:48 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Jan-
That's funny about your son! :-)
Now let's just hope he kicks the habit, right?
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-08 00:48:18 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Jodi et al....
Luck of the Draw is set in a fictional west suburb of Denver which, gosh
golly, seems to resemble the city I work for. Coincidence??? ;-)
Lynda C.
(The names have been changed to protect the idiotic, irritating, and those
who sign my paychecks)! Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-08 00:49:38 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Tina!!!
That's fabulous!
You are just hitting big lately. Have you bought a lottery ticket yet??
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 00:50:40 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gail-
I haven't been able to comment yet.....
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!
Tell me more.
Lynda C. Subj: good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 00:57:35 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Hi Gals!
Gosh I'm so excited about this........
I'm attending the Rocky Mountain Fiction Writers conference this weekend (it
ends tomorrow), and I was fortunate enough to get an agent appointment with
an agent I desperately wanted to meet. Anyway, to make a long story short,
she wants me to send Luck of the Draw----THE WHOLE THING----and all that I
have done of Unguarded Hearts, and the best part is, she told me she would've
taken it RIGHT THERE had I brought it with me (which they always tell you is
a big no-no)! Isn't that totally cool??? Of course, I know now that a
request for a full ms doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I'm still
hangin' out up here on cloud nine for a few anyway!
Lynda C.
P.S. Actually, I had two agent appointments. The other one went
exceptionally well, too. He requested partials on both AND copies of all my
confession stories. :-D See, they do come in handy!! Subj: Re:good
news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 00:59:00 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Sorry about all my pathetically bad grammar in the last post. It's late, and
the thin air on cloud nine is affecting my brain.
Lynda C. Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 01:01:06 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
LYNDA!!!! That's sooo great. WOW! You have this great personality though
that really helps you connect with people. That really is powerful, then
they read your stuff and zap you are signing autographs for me!
;)
Tina Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-08 02:16:03 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Jodi,
I usually use real lakes, rivers, mountains, etc, but make up the name of the
town. If you're going to move a real place, then why not just include one of
those 'note to the reader' at the end of the book. I've seen historical
authors do that if they're changing something in history in order to make
their story work. I'm willing to forgive a change if the author explains it.
If she doesn't say anything, I'm inclined to think she's just dumb!
Cindi Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-08 02:19:34 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Congratulations, TIna.
That's wonderful!
Cindi. Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-08 02:26:11 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
As a past Golden Heart entrant, I can give you the scoop, girls. You enter a
synopsis of the book and the beginning pages, up to a total of 55 pages. So
if you have a 5-page synopsis, you can enter 50 pages of the manuscript. Make
that the first 50.
I judged last year and it was a lot of fun. Frustrating, though, because all
you get to do is give one numerical score per entry. No comments or
anything. And that's a frustrating thing about entering the contest, too.
When it's over, all you have are these numbers that don't tell you much. Of
course, if you're the winner, or even a finalist, it's a big deal, Soooo
I'm planning on entering two manuscripts -- one of which is only up to
Chapter 6, so I'd better get cracking!
(Of course, I always hope that some time before December, I'll get a call
from my agent on the two manuscripts I have out there and I won't be eligible
to enter. Wouldn't that be a kick! I remember talking to Arnette Lamb once
and she said when she sold her first book, one of her first thoughts was "I
don't have to enter the Golden Heart this year.")
Cindi Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 02:27:05 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
OK Gail, the suspense is killing me. What magazine was this?
Cindi Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 02:28:48 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Oh, Lynda, can I touch you? This is so great. Good luck!
Cindi Subj: Re:Locales
Date: 96-09-08 10:21:53 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - Exactly!!! You know, there was a movie a while back about a
businesswoman who left the fast lane in the city to raise a child in Vermont.
I remember it looked so beautiful, lots of snow, small-town kind of folk, and
said, "no problem!"
<G>
Connie
Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 10:25:37 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jan - I agree with Lynda. I don't know if he realizes it yet, but he CAN'T
quit when he wants to. It's not that easy (I know - I average at least a
pack a day!). I'm watching the effects of smoking long-term destroy my
husband's aunt, and still, it's hard to turn away from them.
I hope he stops now, because the longer it's in your system, the harder it is
to get rid of.
Connie Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-08 10:26:12 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Lynda - LOLOL!!! Great postscript!!!
Connie Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 10:28:50 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Lynda - Excellent!!! The whole manuscript is good, too, because it saves on
sending the rest of it and keeping you going nuts waiting twice!! Lynda,
that's not unusual about the copies of the confessions: an agent once asked
me to do the same thing. It gives them an idea of your style & what you're
capable of, plus it's your PUBLISHED WORK!!! Let us know as soon as you hear
anything!
Connie Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-08 10:31:53 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Cindi - Thanks for the info! I think I'll do it! It should be fun, but I'll
probably find the rating system frustrating, too. It's unthinkable to reduce
someone's "baby" to numbers, but it'll be nice to be a part of reading up and
coming stars' work!!
Connie Subj: Guess what I found?
Date: 96-09-08 10:34:21 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Hey - I don't know how many of y'all (got that from Debby!) will be
interested, but in RWR, page 8, there's 2 contests coming up for publishing
contracts for middle-grade and YA novels. I am definitely going to enter 1
of my babies in each, stories I've had up in my closet for a while.
If anyone's interested by doesn't get RWR, e-mail me & I'll send you a copy
of the info!
Connie Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 11:05:24 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
Actually, these people are in Denver/Lakewood. The editor's name is John
Moravec--unlisted number, with an address on Colfax. Maybe you can arrest
them for stupidity.
Gail Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 11:07:28 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Lynda,
You are really there. You are just about in the bookstores. I am so excited
for you.
Gail Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 11:09:59 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Cindi,
Sorry--thought I said. I submitted to Pleiades and was published by Epic
Journal--sounds innocent enough, right? The listing was in Short Story and
Novel Markets--you know, the Writers' Digest book.
Gail Subj: Re:Locales
Date: 96-09-08 11:10:51 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
Baby Boom with Diane Keaton. Cute movie--cute Sam Shepherd.
Gail Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-08 12:09:52 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Congratulations Tina. What was your entry?
Patty Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 12:13:47 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Lynda, The agent wanted to see your confessional stories? Wow, that's
encouraging news.
Patty Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-08 14:50:00 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Cindi-
That's so funny! Amy and I were talking last night about "hoping" we weren't
eligible to enter the Golden Heart this year because of a sale! I'm glad
other think that way, too!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 14:51:16 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Connie-
AAAAAACK!!! I would've never pegged you as a smoker!!! Quit, honey,
please?!?! We want you around forever!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 14:52:52 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gail-
Please e-mail me with details about these guys. I would LOVE to do a little
private sleuthing into their practices!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 14:53:38 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
BTW, Gail----Colfax is Denver's red light district. That ought to tell you
something. <sigh>
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-08 16:14:52 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Connie- I love Baby Boom ...own the movie. Now since Lynda said it first I
must tell you, I quit smoking 8 years ago as I watched a wonderful patient of
mine die of cancer. I spent 10 years giving chemo and finally realized that
is not how I want to die!! I keep a large jar of hard candy and I fight the
battle of the bulge but I have more choices this way.
Tina Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-08 16:18:24 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Did I ask this, what is Golden Heart? I forget-
Jodi Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 16:19:22 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
Lynda-
WOW, may I have some of you're good luck- or should I say talent, cause I'm
sure that's what it is! Way to go!
Jodi Subj: Re:good news, take 2
Date: 96-09-08 16:48:47 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Thanks Jodi! (Blush)
Lynda C. Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 17:20:43 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Connie --
I second Lynda's words...I about fell off my chair when I read your post!! I
just never pictured you as a smoker, either!!! <G>
Larita Subj: Re:Locales
Date: 96-09-08 19:41:53 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - That was it!!! I was trying to remember the name & saying "Diane - oh
- Diane - I love that actress - what's her name???" And lovely Sam
Shephard!!
<G>
Connie (Gail - you know what's sneaky & works, too? Travel brochures - I
actually England once!!)
Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 19:44:57 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Lynda - I know! <G> You get to remind me from Carolina (I got the sweetest
reminder to stop, too, on the east with Gail!)
Here's the funny part: I NEVER smoked as a teenager. I swiped a couple from
a friend, but I didn't inhale. After living with my husband over a year (his
whole family smokes & is prone to emphysema. Lovely, huh? My dad also has a
touch of it!), I said, "What does he see in this?" I hope to stop again
soon - but last time I did, I ate those Werther butter candies by the
bagful!!!
Connie Subj: Re:Smoking
Date: 96-09-08 19:48:13 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Tina - What a hard (and painful) way to learn! My uncle had a tumor in his
throat after smoking for many years and radiation treatments that actually
burned all his salivary glands. To counter having his mouth feel too dry, he
has to have more fluids during the day. He gets upset with me & my cousin
(his son) and tells us, "I really hope neither of you have to go through
what I did."
Connie Subj: Re:Golden Heart
Date: 96-09-08 19:50:30 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Jodi - I think you did! Sorry about that!! Golden Heart is, from my
understanding (Cindi, correct me if I'm wrong) one of the most prestigious
awards given to the unpublished writer of booklength romance. It's sponsored
by the Romance Writers of America. Back up a few posts, because Cindi gave
excellent prerequisites on it.
If you're interested, let us know if you needs RWA's address!
Connie Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 21:23:35 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Connie,
If you were here in Tennessee, I'd tie you down and tear up every little
cigarette in sight to get you to quit smoking. I told you about my mother
being nearly 100% paralyzed for over 7 years before dying three years ago.
Yes, it was the result of a bad medical procedure, but cigarettes got her
there in the first place. When my mother was in her twenties, she was told
that she looked like a cross between Natalie Wood and Liz Taylor. When she
was in her thirties, she looked more like she was in her sixties because of
the toxins she inhaled, robbing her once-beautiful skin of oxygen. You may
consider this a lecture about the dangers of smoking, but you're a friend,
and I want you to love a long, happy life. Just think, if you quit now, your
lungs should be clear and the effects the cigarettes have already had on your
heart should be gone within just a few years. Please!
Deb Subj: Re:More
than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 22:57:58 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Connie,
That's funny. I just bought two bags of that candy to take to work. We are
all eating a ton of junk there now.
I bought a U.S. travel book and sometimes use my CD encyclopedia for
research, Connie. I wasn't going to jump on you right here about smoking, but
now that you brought it up...
Gail Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-08 23:00:00 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Deb,
My mom died of emphysema. Not much fun watching someone struggling just to
take a breath.
Gail Subj: GH
Date: 96-09-08 23:28:58 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Jodi- We were really impressed in Dallas this year to note that the majority
of Golden Heart finalists-all unpublished at entry time- had agents and/ or
sold their manuscripts by the time Dallas came around. If you make it to the
finals it means you are marketable and they are knocking at your door.
Save your pennies Jodi and join RWR! It is very much worth it! Then get
involved on the local level. I didn't realize how much I didn't know till I
started getting involved.
Tina Subj: Re:Smoking
Date: 96-09-09 08:41:57 edt
From: Gruesome
.
My mother had a near fatal heart attack two months before her 57th
birthday. Her MD attributed it directly to smoking. My mother smoked a half
pack or less a day. But, when she played cards she smoked more. It was
during one of these marathon poker/smoking sessions that she "threw a clot"
Her blood vessels spasmed and caused a blood clot.
By the time she got to the hospital, she barely had a blood pressure.
It was touch and go for a while. The most miserable time in my life.
She and my father quit smoking on the spot. They gave her medication to
dissolve the clot. She has been walking 40 minutes or more a day on her
treadmill. She's in better shape than ever.
Oh, yeah, hard candies(starlight mints have no fat) helped her, too.
But, nothing gave her incentive like the heart attack. She quit for awhile
after seeing her sister die of lung cancer due to smoking. Now she says
she'll never start again.
I know the trouble I have with dieting. I'm sure quitting smoking is
difficult, too.
Sorry for the lecture.
Michele Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-09 10:11:49 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Tina:
Congrats on the contest win! That's excellent.
Amy Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-09 14:32:45 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Connie:
Everyone's said it.....I concur. We love and need you around. Please quit.
Amy Subj: Re:Smoking
Date: 96-09-09 18:52:07 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Michele,
So glad to hear a success story for your mother!!! Glad she's still with us
and exercising.
Gail Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-09 19:46:17 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Lord Connie, do you still have to work with this guy? My husband is Jewish,
and stuff like that really brings it home to me. I'm a Wasp, who has never
really experienced that first hand, until we got married. Next time he
starts, just ask him if he was Jewish in a previous life....
Sherril Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-09 19:47:41 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Hey Connie, I saw your story on the cover of TR, and KNEW it was yours! I
got bumped again from TE ;-(. I'm hoping, because I made a slight reference
to Thanksgiving in the story, that they are saving it for the November issue!
Sherril Subj: Re:Releases
Date: 96-09-09 19:48:27 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Well Cindi, we're keeping each other in BUMP CITY!
Sherril Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-09 19:50:49 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Deb, I tried acupunture for my migraines, I've tried EVERYTHING for my
migraines, short of chopping off my head. It didn't work for me, but I'm a
hard case, NOTHING works.
Sherril Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-09 19:51:55 edt
From: IRWriter
.
I forgot...I have a friend whose had 2 sinus surgeries, and they did help her
problem somewhat. By the way, acupuncture isn't painful at all...in fact,
it's kind of relaxing.
Sherril Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-09 19:54:04 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Cindi, hope you're feeling better in no time, and breathin' better too!
Sherril Subj: Re:worse than rejection
Date: 96-09-09 19:56:47 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Oh my gosh! You're right Gail, that is VERY unprofessional, but it seems to
happen more than we'd believe. See, people are Clamoring over your work!
Sherril Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-09 19:59:08 edt
From: IRWriter
.
All right Tina! Congrats! I'll look for that issue at Barnes & Noble.
Sherril Subj: Re:Getting punished
Date: 96-09-09 19:59:42 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Gail, you crack me UP!!!
Sherril Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-09 20:06:29 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Connie, I have to add my two cents here. My dad passed away in 1995, right
before I joined up with all you lovely ladies. He'd had emphysema for the
past 6 years or so, and I want to tell you, it was terrible to watch a
healthy, vital man reduced to a teather of plastic line that reached to his
oxygen tank. He smoked for years, but only 1 or 2 cigarettes a day. I'm
firmly convinced that his disease was caused by second hand smoke from my
mom, who smoked 2 to 3 packs a day for years before she quit. It would have
killed my mom to know that she caused that in my dad, I'm glad she didn't
know. Connie, from all of us who love you and care about you, and know what
cigarettes can do first hand, please quit.
Sherril Subj: Writer's Conference
Date: 96-09-09 20:11:47 edt
From: IRWriter
.
I just got back from a weekend in Las Vegas at the Reader's Digest Writers
Conference. I went 3 years ago, and met the editor I've sold 7 stories to,
so I figured it would pay to go again. If any of you are interested in
writing for magazines, and have the chance to attend one of these, I would
recommend it! I spoke with 5 editors personally, and 4 asked to see my
queries and proposals! I'm pretty excited, and pretty busy trying to follow
up! Just to meet and talk to so many editors at once is fun...I even talked
with Phil Osborne, one of the editors for Reader's Digest. He didn't want my
idea, oh well. He also said something that should make us all feel better
about rewriting...he said one of his writers said "You don't write for the
Digest, you REwrite for the Digest." He said to expect 2 to 3 rewrites...so,
we are in VERY good company here!
Sherril Subj: Re:Smoking
Date: 96-09-09 20:58:28 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
okay, I've never smoked, or shall I say inhaled- but my dad used to smoke as
I grew up and I believe that mad me a sick child. I was always sick and it
was usally BAD> I even had pnemonia(sp?) and other lung/resp problems. So I
know it's bad for eveyone around a smoker too, not just the smoker.
Jodi Subj: Re:Smoking
Date: 96-09-09 21:30:57 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Wow! What a response! <G> And what an outpouring of love! You guys are
really kind. When I do go for it (you have to be very psyched to do it),
I'll let you guys be among the first to know! I think this is something,
especially from what I've read in your posts, that has effected at least one
person in our lives that we love. Phyllis would remember the last time I
quit (I told her about my new habit at that time - 2 cookies with tea! <G>),
and I stayed off for about 2 months, I think, until I sent the novel to
Silhouette - and then I got all nervous & crazy again!
And smoking did nothing to help, since it got rejected anyway!!! I don't get
offended at all that you guys encourage me to stop; I take that as concerned
affection, which you can never have too much of! I hope soon to take your
very, very good advice!
Connie Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-09 21:59:25 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Sherril - No, luckily, it's a BIG company, so I don't see him that often!! I
know what you mean, too - I hear somebody talk like that and I think of my
friend, Rich, who's also Jewish. He has the most sarcastic sense of humor in
the world, which is funny, because he'll also go out of his way for you. (He
came with me to inspect our house before we sold it because my husband was
working in New York, and he even took NOTES for me!!!)
Funny story about Rich, too - we used to tease around that we were an "item"
at work. I know his wife, he loves Bill, so it was all a tease. We were on
the elevator one day with another man, and he said, "Should we go to your
place or mine?" I said, "Is your wife home?" He said, "She'll be out
until tomorrow." I said, "Then your place it is. Much more romantic." We
said this so seriously, the guy got off the elevator saying, "Oh, I don't
think I should be hearing this!!!"
LOLOL!!!
Connie Subj: DI3
Date: 96-09-09 22:00:24 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
How many of us sent stories in to Pat this time?
Deb Subj: Re:Checks came!
Date: 96-09-09 22:05:02 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Sherril - Oh, I hope you like the mobster! (I want that car! <G>)
That makes you, me, Patty & Cindi who are bumped this month? (I thought you
were in TE! I remembered you had another sale and looked at the titles
saying, "So which one's Sherril's?")
Connie
Subj: Re:Smoking
Date: 96-09-09 23:16:07 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Jodi,
Yes, a woman I write to stopped smoking and her child and her dog recovered
from their "asthma."
Gail Subj: Re:Writer's Conference
Date: 96-09-09 23:20:55 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
That's so fantastic to go to a conference with editors you will be/are
writing for and who will buy your articles. And what a place to sell material
to. I didn't know you were writing for them.Sherril, I am so impressed. Man,
you are motivated and really doing it. I'm gonna look for your stuff, please
let us know if you have something coming out. Otherwise, I'll just stand at
the newstand and flip through. (It's so much cheaper that way.) You are a
sweetie.
Gail Subj: Re:More than just BAD girls
Date: 96-09-09 23:21:56 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
I know. My dad had a certain amount of lung problems from my mother's
smoking, too.
Gail Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-09 23:24:50 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril, Lynda, and everyone,
Here's the good news. I called Writers Digest and faxed them the stuff from
this guy and they are taking him out of the Short Story and Novel Markets
they are just putting together. They are sending a memo around to the editors
there not to take any listings from this nut. Thanks for your support,
ladies.
Gail Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-09 23:26:34 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Sherril,
I used to get migraines a lot--but so did my mother and so does my sister.
It's hormonal, too. Strangely, I found Alka Seltzer will work sometimes when
other stuff won't. (It might be the sodium--don't know.)
Gail Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-09 23:38:47 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
YAY!!!!!!!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:DI3
Date: 96-09-10 10:18:05 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Deb:
I sent a story in to Pat. I'm dying to hear if she wants it!
Amy Subj: Re:The Guy
Date: 96-09-10 10:19:46 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Gail:
Good going on your part for telling on that guy. Who knows how many people
he's done this to.
Amy Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 10:23:45 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Bad Girls:
I have good news and I have bad news. First the bad news. Loveswept
rejected me last week. I was so pissed that on Friday I up and mailed three
chapters to each Kensington and to Harper just for the heck of it.
Yesterday, only four days after mailing the package, I get a call on my
answering machine (this is the good news) from Kensington. They think my
story is perfect for their new line, Precious Gems. She said my story was
charming and she wants to read the rest ASAP. I think 1996 is going to be
my year!
Amy Subj: Re:More agent bites
Date: 96-09-10 10:58:43 edt
From: Moonmyth
.
Lynda--
Wonderful news! Go get 'em girl. Been super busy but thinking of all of
you.
Marci Subj: Re:Settings
Date: 96-09-10 11:03:25 edt
From: Moonmyth
.
Another thought--Use real city and street but fictional number address. That
is, if you're able to check it out....
Marci Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 11:04:06 edt
From: LaRitaMari
.
Amy ---
Boy, if the rest of us had that good of news to go with our bad news, we'd
never fall in rejection slumps!! That's terrific!!
I'm thinking the rest of us REALLY need to move to Colorado -- between you
and Lynda, some of your good fortune (and TALENT) would have to rub off on
the rest of us!!!
Keep us posted!!
Larita Subj: Re:news
Date: 96-09-10 11:05:54 edt
From: Moonmyth
.
Congrats on Writer's Journal contest, Tina. What a terrific prize!
Also, good luck in the Yours Truly contest. I entered, too.
Marci Subj: Re:DI3
Date: 96-09-10 11:39:22 edt
From: J00DLynn
.
me...
Jodi Subj: Amy's Adorable Story
Date: 96-09-10 12:01:57 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Wait until you all READ Amy's adorable story!!!!!!!!!!! It is FABULOUS, and
she deserves the sale! Way to go, Amos!!!!!!!!!! I'm your biggest fan!!!!
Lynda C. Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 12:09:48 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
AMY!!!!!!!!
Wonderful. A phone call, no less. Go, go go.
Gail Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 12:29:11 edt
From: Luv2rit
.
Amy,
Congratulations! Your story just proves that this business is so-o-o
subjective. Just because one editor wasn't in the mood for your work, that
doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. It simply means that you picked
the wrong editor the first time out. Kensington was able to spot the jewel.
Deb
Subj:
Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 16:09:09 edt
From: Asandrin
.
Thanks for all the support guys, they haven't bought it yet, but I'm that
much closer! This is so exciting. I wish this feeling on each and every one
of you. Magic vibes coming all of your way. =)
Lynda, I'm YOUR biggest fan, so we're even, chicky babe.
Amy Subj: Re:Gail
Date: 96-09-10 17:10:44 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Way to go Gail! I wouldn't have thought to call Writer's Digest. How does
it feel to make a difference?
Patty Subj: Re:DI3
Date: 96-09-10 17:13:02 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
I sent a story in, too, for DR3 about an aspiring Olympic figure skater who
suffers a career threatening leg injury. I think I enjoyed writing this one
more than any other story I've worked on, so I hope it sells.
Patty Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 17:14:07 edt
From: PattyWrite
.
Amy, Sounds like your news is more good than bad. Good luck!
Patty Subj: Re:Bumped
Date: 96-09-10 19:36:53 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Looks like I was bumped from TE and TR. What's going on here?
Cindi Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 19:38:37 edt
From: CMyersTex
.
Oh, Amy! That is so exciting. And they responded so fast. I take that to
be a very good sign. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Cindi Subj: Re:Gail
Date: 96-09-10 19:45:45 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Patty,
I am mean--not lean--just mean.
Gail Subj: Re:DI3
Date: 96-09-10 19:46:26 edt
From: MaraWayne
.
Patty,
That story sounds good! Everyone loves ice skaters.
gail Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 19:50:21 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Amy - I think that'll be a great story to tell when you get to the next
conference!!! "I got so ticked off, I just sent my novel somewhere else,
right off the cuff - and it GOT PUBLISHED!!!!" LOLOL!!! I like that!! And
what bad news? That silly little rejection? That first editor just made a
mistake. One day soon she'll see "Love at First Lie" in Barnes & Noble (the
last copy; the rest went like hotcakes!) and say, "Oh, I hope my boss
doesn't remember this one!"
<G>
Connie Subj: Re:Gail
Date: 96-09-10 19:51:45 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Gail - You tough cookie, you!! That's the way to do it. And you acted fast,
too - I think there's quite a few things that should be removed from the
listings, but sometimes we don't move too quickly! Good for you!
Connie Subj: Re:DI3
Date: 96-09-10 19:53:29 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Patty - that sounds like one straight from the heart!!! That's probably
going to get in. And you can feel the ones that are going to make it, most
of the time, so that's in there! I don't have any for DI3, but my rewrite is
supposed to hit the February issue.
Connie Subj: Re:Bumped
Date: 96-09-10 19:54:35 edt
From: ESCRITORA
.
Cindi - Which one got bumped from TE? (I know the Manchausen - still can't
spell it! - was TR!)
Connie Subj: Re:Writer's Conference
Date: 96-09-10 21:06:39 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Thanks Gail! I was so pumped up at the conference, and nature has such a way
of keeping us humble! Did I get a migraine the second day of the conference,
and fly home with it, and was in bed all day Sunday, when I wanted to follow
up on some of my contacts? Of course! But, I really am trying to get loose
ends caught up this week, so those editors don't forget me!
Sherril Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-10 21:07:57 edt
From: IRWriter
.
All right Gail! I'm proud of you, you did something about it, and saved
another writer grief and heartache! Congratulations, and thank you! Now,
reach around, and give yourself a very big pat on the back, for not sitting
back and letting this guy get away with it.
Sherril Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-10 21:08:43 edt
From: IRWriter
.
Gail, do you snort the Alka-Seltzer, or drink it? Just kidding! I'll try
it...in fact, I'm at the point I'll try ANYTHING!
Sherril Subj: Re:Good News/Bad News
Date: 96-09-10 21:09:43 edt
From: IRWriter
.
ALL RIGHT AMY! You go girl! I think 1996 is going to be remembered as the
Year of the Bad Girls.
Sherril Subj: bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-10 21:40:23 edt
From: Pavsi
.
TO ALL THE BEST BAD GIRLS: A brief bulletin on our status. I want to thank
you all for flooding me with great stories. I read your stories first. But I
finally saw what we could make this when I wrote the coverlines for
December--SIX of EIGHT coverlines were bad girl stories! They made great
coverlines! Even my creative director commented during our cover line
meeting: "Where are you getting these stories? So fast?"
I just smiled. Felt great. Thank you all for working in this unusual way.
I'd appreciate it if you would E-mail me with story ideas--that seems to have
worked in some cases. Better to write about something I might want, although
I've bought things I never knew I wanted because they were told so well. I'm
also holding quite a few of your stories because I've run similar things
recently. I've accepted stories that might not appear for awhile. Keep in
mind that I'm reading them fast & the decision making is way speeded up.
Anyway, thank you all again!--Pavsi Subj: Re:bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-10 21:55:56 edt
From: Gtlhrt
.
Wow Pat how great...for you and for all the Bad Girls!!
Tina Subj: Re:Writer's Conference
Date: 96-09-10 22:27:44 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Sherril-
Your conference sounded GREAT!! I didn't even know such a conference
existed. Wow! I might E-mail you for more info. I'm sort of a conference
junkie! :-)
Lynda C. Subj: Re:bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-10 22:29:17 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Gee Pat,
You sure know how to make a bunch of bad girls feel great!!!
Can't wait for that December issue.
Lynda C. Subj: Redundancy
Date: 96-09-10 22:32:29 edt
From: TundraFlwr
.
Know what I just noticed? The last four posts all had the word "great" in
them at least once. (Silly us)! Well, if we MUST overuse a word, I'm glad
it's not "rejection!"
And that's just great, great, great!!!!
Lynda C. (aka the Great One) Subj: Re:bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-11 07:45:55 edt
From: Luv2rit
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Thanks, Pat! I'm glad to know that it's working on both sides. There's
nothing like a win-win situation. Deb
Subj: Re:bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-11 10:24:27 edt
From: Asandrin
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Pat: We aim to please. Glad everything is working so well. What ever else
we can do to help, let us know.
Thanks everyone for all your encouraging words. I'm hoping this is the one
that will do it for me.
Amy--born to be bad. Subj: Re:Racism
Date: 96-09-11 12:00:47 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Sherril, Connie, etc.
It was easy for me to do it with my employer paying for the phone and fax
bill. Otherwise, it would have taken a lot longer--by snail mail.
Gail Subj: Re:Sinus problems
Date: 96-09-11 12:01:39 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Sherril,
Let me know how you do with the migraines. Hormones, who needs them? I swear
it is that.
Gail Subj: Re:Redundancy
Date: 96-09-11 12:03:07 edt
From: MaraWayne
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Lybda,
That's why you are a great writer and get a great response from editors and
agents.
Gail Subj: Re:bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-11 12:13:26 edt
From: PattyWrite
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Pat, That's so cool that you actually got a compliment because of us. Seems
like together we make a great team!
Patty Subj: Re:bad girls--the best ever
Date: 96-09-11 13:13:13 edt
From: LaRitaMari
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Pat --
Thanks for the words of encouragement!! Here's to a long and "BAD" <g>
partnership!!
Larita
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