Info-ParaNet Newsletters March 20th 1991

                 Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 380

 

                           Wednesday, March 20th 1991

 

Today's Topics:

 

                             Hatonn And The Pleiades

                                    New Echo

                                      Goof

                                  More Missing

                                Kecksburg Redux 1

                                Kecksburg Redux 2

                                Kecksburg Redux 3

                              Hackers/Crop Circles

                that 'fireball' -- potentially high strangeness!

                                 Re: Bill cooper

                                Fritterheads(tm)

                              Forward/transporters

                                 Re: Bill Cooper


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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: Hatonn And The Pleiades

Date: 17 Mar 91 16:25:00 GMT


Hello Michael!


 MC> It is not so much that I don't believe that "channeling" is real, but

 MC> more, what scientific methods can be applied to study the phenomena?

 MC> I was talking with a person the other day who told me that there have

 MC> been some solid-based scientific research done regarding psychic

 MC> phenomenon.


Yeah, I have been an attendee at a few 'Full-Trance' and 'Semi-Trance' sittings

in years gone by.  Just surface observations though.  The 'medium' and helpers

generally frown at any official examinations.  Such measurement type apparatus

seems to scare them easily.  As the old saying goes:

"Mediums do their best work in the dark!"  :-)


 MC> Does anyone have any information relating scientific research being

 MC> conducted to validate psychic phenomenon?


Most probably.  But I bet if ParaNet members were to form a 'seek out and

observe' travel group for various claimants of this phenomenon, as I assume

they have done for UFO sightings...I believe there would be a lot less Phoenix

Journal 'Hatonn' facade types floating about.




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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: New Echo

Date: 17 Mar 91 16:45:00 GMT



 PIS> learn more about the phenomenon.  Any Fidonet sysop or alternate

 PIS> network sysop who wishes to carry it is encouraged to netmail Michael

 PIS> Corbin @ 1:104/422 or Paul Faeder @ 1:268/102.


Sigh...I knew this day would come.  I know the traffic on that echo will no

doubt be quite 'noisy' when the word gets out over Fight-O-Net.  I hope the

moderator of that conference is up tp the task required of him/her.  :-)



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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)

Subject: Goof

Date: 18 Mar 91 01:55:00 GMT



 PF> In a message of <14 Mar 91  07:11:02>, Jim Greenen

 PF> (1:363/29) writes:

 PF> 

 PF>  >Mike; So much for trying to edit a line. I tried to say that I talked

 PF> to 

 PF>  >John Hicks last week and look on Page 13 through 20 in February issue

 PF> of 

 PF>  >"The Missing Link".     ---Jim---

 PF> 

 PF>  Jim, what's "the Missing Link"? A newsletter or magazine?

 PF> If so can you provide subscription information? Thanks!

 PF> 

 PF> 

 PF> --- QM v1.00

 PF>  * Origin: -=<ParaNet(sm) Omicron>=-  (717)-588-7549  

 PF> 14.4K HST (9:1010/0.0)

"The Missing Link" is a magazine edited by Aileen Bringleand is 

published by UFO Contact Center International. The subscription is 

$19.00 a year. The address is 3001 South 288th St. #304, Federal 

Way, Washington 98003. I met Aileen over the xmas holidays when she 

visited Orlando. She is also Co-Host for the First UFO Congress that 

will be held in Tucson, Arizona 3 May through 7 May 1991. I hope 

that will help.

            73's     ---Jim---

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From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)

Subject: More Missing

Date: 9 Mar 91 16:18:00 GMT


Clark:


Thanks for the two `cases' you mentioned. I remember reading 

about both those events years ago, but I did not remember 

where I had read them. The WWI case with the UK troops is if 

memory recalls, a very famous event. I do not believe this 

was ever satisfactorly explained.


Don


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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Kecksburg Redux 1

Date: 19 Mar 91 18:48:00 GMT


Thanks to Jim Delton for finding this gem and scanning it into my system.

Can anyone reach Stan Gordon for comment?


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Reprinted for the Spring 1991 Skeptical Inquirer

   By Robert R. Young




       On September 19, 1990, the NBC television network's

season opener of "Unsolved Mysteries" featured a half hour

segment on the heretofore little-known "Kecksburg UFO Crash." It

was alleged that this involved the crash and recovery by the U.

S.  military of an unidentified flying object with strange alien

markings in the small western Pennsylvania town of Kecksburg, near

Pittsburgh, on December 9, 1965.

       The program was the tenth most watched in America in a week

that saw the introduction of the season's "new" shows.  It was

viewed in an estimated 17.7 percent of households with television

and on 30 percent of all television sets turned on (Broadcasting

1990).  Recent surveys for the National Science Foundation report

that 2 in 5 adult Americans believe that alien spaceships account

for some UFO reports (Science News 1986).  It therefore seems

likely that several million viewers may have been predisposed to

accept the premise of the program.

       This "saucer crash" has not been widely known to UFOlogists

or UFO skeptics because it appears never to have happened.

According to a review of all original published accounts, the sole

witnesses to the saucer crash apparently were two eight-year-old

children who were among thousands in nine states and Canada to

view a bolide (brilliant) meteor (Gatty 1965).

       Add to this a gullible local flying saucer buff who has

finally found "his own" thrilling flying saucer crash to

investigate; the U.S.  Air Force "Project Blue Book" UFO

investigating office; "unnamed Pentagon sources"; a secret

military satellite launch; the Pennsylvania State Police; the

Kecksburg volunteer fire company; local news reporters who were at

first kept away; the 24-year-old recollections of local

citizens; and the recent materialization of "new" witnesses.

       According to a front-page story in the nearby Greensburg,

Pennsylvania, Tribune-Review the day after the TV show, some

Kecksburg residents, including many observers of the 1965 event

and even some portrayed in the program, say it is all a hoax.

Some residents blame two local men whose story of a copper-colored

12' by 7' "acorn-shaped" object with "hieroglyphic" markings had

surfaced only a couple of months earlier-almost a quarter-century

after the original publicity.

       Tribune-Review staff writer David Darby (1990) reported

that more than 50 Kecksburg residents sent a petition to the

program's producers in an attempt to stop its airing.  The paper

reported that these nonbelievers included Ed Myers, the Kecksburg

fire chief in 1965, who was portrayed by an actor on the program;

Jerome and Valerie Miller, whose home was portrayed as the site of

a "military command post" during UFO recovery operations; the

owners of the land where the saucer was supposed to have landed;

and Kecksburg firemen.

       Myers expressed concern.  "It's killing me to know this is

going nationwide, because there's absolutely no truth to it," he

told Darby.  "Something's gonna be put in the history books for

my grandchildren to read, and it is just not true."

       The Millers, the paper reported, deny that their home was a

center of military activity.  Darby said "whoops of laughter"

filled the Miller living room when a group of residents who

consider the whole thing a hoax gathered to watch the melodramatic

program.

       Several elements combined in 1965 to create local hysteria.

For several days the world had been fascinated by front-page

coverage of the missions of Gemini 6 and 7, two U.S.  spacecraft

set for a manned joining.  The day of the incident (December 9)

the Pitts- burgh Press, widely read in the Kecksburg area,

reported that Frank Edwards, a nationally known flying saucer

lecturer and broadcaster had arrived in the city to speak.  The

headline, "Lift UFO Secrecy, Saucer Believer Says," had a "kicker"

above it, "U.  S.  Hush-Up Charged."

       However, the Erie Daily Times (December 10) reported

another event that day that went largely unnoticed:  a secret

satellite was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Califor-

nia, a launchsite for military polar-orbiting reconnaissance

missions.  The stage was set.

       Shortly after 4:40 p.m.  (EST) a brilliant bolide, or

"fireball," was seen by thousands in Idaho, Illinois, Indi- and

Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia,

and Ontario, Canada, according to reports on December 10 in the

Erie Daily Times; the Pittsburgh Press, the New York Times, and

the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.  The fireball was even said to have

been seen in California (Pittsburgh Press, Dec.  10, 1965).

Astronomers from Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, who had

received many reports, concluded the object had been a bright

meteor (Erie Daily Times, Pittsburgh Press, New York Times,

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec.  10).  This was also the conclusion

of the Federal Aviation Administration, according to a spokesman

at Erie, Pennsylvania (Erie Daily Times; Pittsburgh

Post-Gazette); Air Force spokesmen in Washington; and unnamed

"Pentagon sources" (Pittsburgh Press, New York Times).


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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Kecksburg Redux 2

Date: 19 Mar 91 18:49:00 GMT



       Reports of bolides are typically inaccurate.  Astronomer

Frank Drake (1971), after efforts to recover meteorites from

fireball reports, has estimated the fraction of eyewitnesses who

are wrong about something to be I out of 2 after one day, 3 out of

4 after two days, and 9 out of 10 after four days.  Witnesses

often grossly underestimate the distance of fireballs, which may

be dozens of miles high.  When the meteors disappear over the

horizon it is sometimes taken as a "nearby" event (Klass 1974:42-

49).

       The 1965 fireball was no exception.  It was reported to

have "crashed" or "landed" in six widely separated locations.  A

pilot in the air reported watching as it "plummeted" into Lake

Erie (Pittsburgh Press, Dec.  10).  At Midland, Pennsylvania, west

of Pitts- burgh, falling debris was reported but police found

nothing (Erie Daily Times, Pittsburgh Press, Dec.  10).  At

Elyria, Ohio, west of Cleveland, a woman reported that a

fireball the size of a "volley ball" fell into a wooded lot.

Firemen reported 10 small grass fires but no flying saucer

(Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec.  10).

       At Lapeer, Michigan, 40 miles north of Detroit, sheriff's

officers investigating the report of "a ball of fire crashing"

found only pieces of tinfoil (Pittsburgh Press, Dec.  10).  The

most spectacular report came from Detroit and Windsor, Ontario,

where pilots, weather observers, and U.  S.  Coast Guard personnel

reported that a flying object "exploded" over Detroit.  Coast

Guard boats sent into Lake St.  Clair found nothing (Tribune-

Review, County Edition, Dec.  10).  The Air Force UFO

investigating office at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, may

have been interested in the recovery of space-launch debris and

sent three-man investigating teams from the 662 Radar Squadron,

based near Pittsburgh, to Kecksburg and Erie (Erie Daily Times,

Pittsburgh Post- Gazette).

       In Kecksburg the scene had turned into a circus.  Little

Kevin Kalp had run and told his mother, Mrs.  Arnold Kalp of RD 1,

Acme, Pennsylvania, that he had seen something "like a star on

fire." Going outside she saw "blue smoke" that seemed to come from

a nearby woods (Gatty 1965; Pittsburgh Press, Dec.  10).  Other

reports had described a bright trail left in the air by the meteor

(Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec 10).  A "thump" whose vibration felt

by one witness was attributed to dynamiting at a local quarry or

to a shock wave heard by many western Pennsylvanians who witnessed

the fireball.  Mrs.  Kalp called a local radio station that had

been reporting a plane crash.  Soon, according to the Tribune-

Review, a "massive traffic jam" had engulfed the small town

(Gatty, Tribune-Review, City Edition, Dec.  10, Dec.  11).

       A local volunteer fire policeman informed reporters that

the Army and the state police had told them not to let anybody in

(Gatty 1965).  One result was that an early edition of the

Greensburg paper carried a seven- column banner headline atop page

one, "'Unidentified Flying Object Falls Near Kecksburg," and,

"Army ropes off area" (Greensburg Tribune-Review, County Edition,

Dec.  10).

       Captain Joseph Dussia, commander of the Pennsylvania State

Police Troop A Headquarters at Greensburg, announced the next day

that after an all-night search "absolutely nothing had been

found." Reports of something being carried from the area

referred only to equipment used in the search, Dussia said.  He

added, "Someone made a mountain out of a molehill" (Greensburg

Tribune-Review, City Edition, Dec.  10).  The Air Force also

announced that nothing had been found (Pittsburgh Press, Dec.

10).  The next day a Greensburg Tribune-Review editorial

summarized its staff's independent investigation:  Nothing at

all seems to have happened (Dec.  11).  The official explanations

are totally consistent with all published accounts and the

present recollections of scores of witnesses.


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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Kecksburg Redux 3

Date: 19 Mar 91 18:52:00 GMT



       When does the "unsolved mystery" come in?  Now enters Stan

Gordon, founder of the Pennsylvania Association for the Study of

the Unexplained (PASU), a Greensburg-based group that collects

sightings of UFOs, Bigfoot, and other oddities, such as the

"Eastern Cougar," an animal that has been extinct for a hundred

years.  PASU seems to do little research into these events but

does issue press releases.  Gordon, a 30-year veteran of saucer

chases, is also Pennsylvania director of the Mutual UFO Network

(MUFON), the nation's largest surviving flying-saucer group.

       Each year in early January PASU issues its annual press

release to Pennsylvania newspapers listing exciting reports

received during the previous year.  Their 1989 release featured an

alleged UFO encounter by a Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, policeman

(Latrobe Bulletin, Jan.  9, 1989).  A PASU investigator later said

the witness had suffered "severe burns" and a "severe eye injury."

MUFON's state director soon turned it into a "returning UFO

abductee" encounter, making claims publicly denied by the witness.

Local amateur astronomers found the witness had been looking at

the planet Venus.  The witness refused to be examined by a

physician; a PASU investigator "lost" film evidence of the

witness' injuries, and a substance Gordon had tested at a

laboratory and then described as "strange" and "unusual" turned

out to be a common fertilizer (Young 1989).

       In 1990 PASU issued a call for anyone with knowledge of the

Kecksburg UFO crash to come forward (Latrobe Bulletin).  With an

experienced nose for saucer news, they must have sensed that even

after 24 years witnesses always seem to be willing to come forward

if the case is exciting.

       Actually, the Kecksburg UFO tale has been making the rounds

among Pennsylvania saucer buffs for some time.  Flying-saucer

evangelist Robert D.  Barry hosts a Saturday midnight program, "ET

Monitor," on WGCB-TV, Red Lion, Pennsylvania, a religious

station, where he mixes NASA films, UFOria, viewer calls, and

occasional Bible readings.  Barry mentioned the Kecksburg

recovery in a lecture at Elizabethtown College, Elizabethtown,

Pennsylvania, on March 22, 1989, and followed on his April 2,

1989, program with the revelation that the incident involved the

recovery of "bodies." Later, on his April 23, 1989, broadcast, he

stated that no bodies were involved in the UFO accident.

       Barry says that years ago he was told by an unnamed NASA

informant that the Kecksburg UFO had been tracked, a claim that is

contradicted by statements made by a North American Air Defense

Command spokesman at the time (Erie Daily Times; Pittsburgh Press;

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec.  10).  Barry has also reported,

citing Stan Gordon as his source, that a 1965 member of the

Kecksburg Fire Company claims it had been contacted by NASA before

the UFO crashed and asked to keep the public away from the area, a

claim contradicted by the original published reports and

eyewitness statements (Tribune-Review, City Edition, Dec.  10,

1965).

       A curious claim, oddly similar to the Kecksburg story,

occurred January 28, 1990, on Bob Barry's television program.  At

7:10 P.m.  (EST) that evening a bright fireball had been seen over

much of the East Coast (Harrisburg Sunday Patriot-News, Jan.  28,

1990).  That night on "ET Monitor" Barry reported that "a

Greensburg source," a euphemism he sometimes uses for PASU's Stan

Gordon, had called to say that "an object landed" nearby at about

7:20 P.M., that the area had been cordoned off, and that the

source was "trying to get as close as he could." A well-known

baseball philosopher would have been prompted to say that it

seemed like "deja vu all over again.  "

       It is too bad the producers an researchers at "Unsolved

Mysteries" didn't scratch around a little.  At least 50 folks at

Kecksburg could have saved them an embarrassment.


References


Broadcasting.  1990.  (Cites  Nielsen  and  its

   own research.) P. 40.

Darby,  David.  1990.  Greensburg  Tribune-

   Review (Greensburg, Pa.), December 10,

   P. 1.

Drake,  Frank.  1972.  On  the  abilities  and

   limitations  of  witnesses  of  UFO's  and

   similar phenomena. In UFO's: A Scientific

   Debate,  247-257,  eds.  Carl  Sagan  and

   Thornton  Page  (New  York:  Cornell

   University Press and W. W. Norton).

Gatty, Bob. 1965. Unidentified flying object

   report touches off probe near Kecksburg.

   Greensburg  Tribune-Review,  December

   10, p. 1.

Klass, Philip J. 1974. UFOs Explained (New

   York: Random House/Vintage), pp. 42-49.

   Science News. 1986. 129:118.

Young, Robert R. 1989. "Harrisburg 'UFO

   Incident' Stimulated by Venus." Unpub-

   lished manuscript by the author.



Robert R.  Young is education chairman

of the Astronomical Society of Harrisburg,

Pennsylvania.  Address:  319  S.  Front

Street, Harrisburg, PA 17104.


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From: Jim.Delton@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)

Subject: Hackers/Crop Circles

Date: 20 Mar 91 04:12:00 GMT


An interesting article from "Gvt Computer News", a freebie newspaper 

for gvt employees in the computer biz.  

  

       A group of computer hackers, apparently seeking information 

on UFOs, broke into Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service 

computers in October but were not detected until last month. 

       In early January, APHIS officials learned from the FBI 

that hackers in England had accessed the agency's Prime Computer 

Inc.  systems through U. S. Sprint Communications Co.'s public 

TeleNet.  At first, agency officiels had no idea why APHIS was a 

target or if any damage had been done.  With the FBl's help, 

APHIS officials discovered the security breach occurred in 

October and isolated the types of searches done by the hackers. 

       So far, no damage to APHIS data or systems has been found. 

The computer system consists of Prime 1350 minicomputers at each 

of the Agriculture Department agency's 40 field offices and 

three larger Prime 9955 minicomputers at the Hyattsville, Md., 

headquarters.  Each field office has Four or five Prime PT200 

terminals hanging off the 1350.  The Hyattsville office has 

about 500 PT200's supported by the 9955s. 

       The minicomputers communicate nationwide--through a wide 

area network on Sprint's TeleNet.  Most of the traffic 

consists of text files, said Sam Ladd, associate deputy 

administrator of APHIS' Management and Budget Division.  An 

informant told the FBI the hackers were seeking information on 

UFOs, Ladd said.  But in its review, APHIS found the hackers also

had sought ways to access agency systems, he said.  "They

apparently had Prime source code, so their ability to penetrate

Prime systems was pretty good," Ladd said.  "They already were on

the Sprint network and were trying to test access to break in.

When they saw Agriculture, they thought there may be something

interesting.  Their

       Their interest was in UFOs and markings in wheat fields."

APHIS, with 5,OOO employees, helps keep plant and animal diseases

out of the United States.  The agency also tries to minimize

damage if diseases do get into the country.

       Besides the UFO information, the hackers apparently were

looking for anything else intriguing, Ladd said.  "They were

looking for anything of value they could use," he said.  "Some

files contained telephone credit card [numbers]." Although the

hackers got into these files, there is no evidence that they used

the credit cards, he said.

       One early concern was that the hackers might have set a

virus loose in the APHIS computers.  But after two weeks of

investi- gation, officials ruled out that possibility, Ladd said.

APHIS computer programmer Jeff Tessmer was assigned to undertake

the search for system alterations by the hackers.  Over a

weekend, Tessmer identified four APHIS systems containing

unfamiliar files:  two in Hyattsville, one in Jefferson City, Mo.,

and one in Wilmington, N.C.  "I went into the systems

administrator mode and started looking at suspicious files by

date and time," Tessmer recounted.  "It looked as if they were trying 

to

use our network to get into other systems at other network

addresses."

       Tessmer said at one point while he was logged onto the

network, one of the hackers also logged on.  "One of them logged

on while I was on.  I went into the administrator mode and changed

his password, then logged back on using that password.  By doing

this I was able to kick him off the network,"  Tessmer said.

"With this system you can only log yourself off."

       Though no damage appears to have occurred, Ladd said the

incident was a nuisance.  On the plus side, it did help top

agency managers recognize the need for computer security measures,

he added.  To beef up security, the agency has changed all its

passwords and user identification codes, making them more secure.

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From: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tyson Mitchiner)

Subject: that 'fireball' -- potentially high strangeness!

Date: 18 Mar 91 09:56:00 GMT


This message is actually to all...

Did anyone see 60 minutes on Sunday, March 17th?  I saw a preview of 

the show, which had objects flying in boomerang formation flying 

near the Washington monument.  I unfortunately was not able to watch 

it, and was curious if that was linked to this subject, or if that 

was just a bunch of planes flying in formation?

                                        Tyson

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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)

Subject: Re: Bill cooper

Date: 18 Mar 91 14:20:00 GMT


Sorry Rick; but I can't go along with you on that one. The purpose 

of the message was not to protect Bill Cooper from his problems he 

has but to keep a open mind about all thats going on. As the SYSOP 

of the Bay Area Skeptic group and reading some of your posting in 

the BBS, I feel that your attentions are less then honorable. For 

you to promote keeping Bill Coopers files (and I feel that thay 

should be) is not for the reason you state. A person that makes 

claims as being a skeptic and belongs to such organization is not 

being fair with himself when claims to be openminded. 

    Please excuse me for being so blunt but I was not born with the 

ability to be a diplomate and I try my best not to be a hypocrite. 

I would enjoy discussing different topics with you but from past 

experience that we have had on the BBS, I feel that the one thing 

that you don't have is a open mind. This is not attended to be a 

put down to you because your probably a very nice person but its 

against the word SKEPTIC because its the exact opposite of 

open-minded.  

   You have read enough on this and other BBS that you should have 

come to a conclusion that all of these claims of UFO sightings has 

to merit some consideration on your part. I and 20 million others 

have seen some very strange things flying around in our skys and the 

purpose is not if thay exist but its the who, what and where that 

I'm interested in. If you have doubts, then I would recommend 

reading "Above Top Secret" for a start and then past it around the 

Bay Area group. Then log on the echo as Rick Moen the person that is 

interested in learning all he can on this subject and not Rick Moen 

the skeptic. Between the two of us, maybe we can find some parts to 

the puzzle.      73's     ---Jim---

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From: Matt.Drury@p0.f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Drury)

Subject: Fritterheads(tm)

Date: 18 Mar 91 14:40:00 GMT


"> I've always been strongly in favour of open-mindedness -- as long as

"> your mind isn't so open that things flutter in and out.


An excellent way to ignore any opinion that doesn't fit your worldview 

without sacrificing your high moral and ethical standards. Sir, I salute 

you. 

 

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From: Matt.Drury@p0.f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Drury)

Subject: Forward/transporters

Date: 18 Mar 91 14:44:00 GMT


"> to atoms with net spins.  Also, storing and transmitting this

"> amount of data boggles my mind.


Using Phil Katz' new PKZIP 1.20 protocol on the 3D-scanned database you 

posit should reduce the data to a workable size. However, a utility that is 

more intelligent than PKZIPFIX will need to be authored for when the 

transmission drops a bit (=nose or ear or other important organ).


"Let's use The Enemy for transporter testing." 

 

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From: Matt.Drury@p0.f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Drury)

Subject: Re: Bill Cooper

Date: 18 Mar 91 14:48:00 GMT


"> Sorry Rick; but I can't go along with you on that one. The

"> purpose of the message was not to protect Bill Cooper from


Forgive me for tuning in late, but what did Bill Cooper do to offend the 

powers-that-be? Had I a collection of any author's frowned-upon text, I 

would be disinclined to trash it for any reason short of a court order. I'd 

rather leave it available, with appropriate editoral comments--and allow any 

foolishness or fritterheadedness to reflect on the author hirself.


"Fun with networking." 

 

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