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                                  August 16, 1990

                         Annotated from an article in the

                 Dallas Morning News on Tuesday, September 4, 1990

                             contributed by Ron Barker

                       Scientists seek to study Nazi paper.

           Texas A&M  researchers  interested  in coal-to-gasoline process.

                                 Associated Press

       COLLEGE STATION, Texas --

            Texas A&M University researchers  want  to  resume the study of

       Nazi documents about producing gasoline from coal -  a  process that

       they say may alleviate the United States' dependency on foreign oil.

            More than  300  rolls of microfilmed documents dealing with the

       process are stored in the university's  library,  but  few have been

       translated or read.

            The documents detail Germany's research and development  of  25

       synthetic fuel plants from 1936 through 1945. The plants provided 90

       percent of the  Nazis'  aviation  fuel and 68 percent of the rest of

       its energy needs, the records show.

       Vangard Note...

            After the  war,  the  records  were  placed  under  a  30  year

       moratorium from the public to prevent the sudden release  of radical

       technology which might disrupt American businesses.

                                                                *******

            Texas A&M  researchers  began  gathering  and  scrutinizing the

       documents for practical application  in  1975,  but  the project was

       abandoned five years later.

            Arnold Krammer,  an  A&M history professor, told  the  `Houston

       Chronicle' that the  documents  also  record  the  U.S. government's

       short-lived synthetic fuel program.

            Two U.S. plants, built in Louisiana,  Mo.,  using  Nazi designs

       and technology, turned out 200 to 400 barrels of gasoline  daily for

       as little as  1.6  cents  per gallon from 1949 to 1953, according to

       U.S. Bureau of Mines records.

            That project   was   shut  down   by   President   Eisenhower's

       administration, Mr. Krammer, 49, said. "Without question, it was due

       to lobbying by  oil companies who didn't want the  competition,"  he

       said.

            Mr. Krammer and other A&M researchers tracked down Nazi Germany

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       war documents in  diverse  locations that included basements in West

       Virginia, the Imperial Museum in London,  the  National Archives and

       the Library of Congress in Washington and German depositories.

            Most of the documents were captured and stored after the Allied

       victory over the Nazis in 1945. Many of the crates  had been stored,

       unopened, since the war.

            As a   result,   Mr.  Krammer  said,  Texas  A&M  is  the  only

       institution with most of the Nazi  and  U.S.  secrets  to  synthetic

       fuels.

            Mr. Krammer  said he hopes the project will obtain  funding  to

       hire a research  team  to  read,  translate  and  computer index the

       documents.  He estimated  the  project  would  take  five  years  to

       complete at a cost of about $200,000 annually.

            The chemical process for turning coal into gasoline is known to

       about every chemistry graduate student, he said.  But  it  generally

       has been considered uneconomical.

            He said,  however,  that  Nazi German research might unlock the

       keys to making the process cheaper than pumping petroleum.

            "It is the details that we have  in these documents, details of

       where the Germans  went  wrong,  and what worked and  what  did  not

       work," he said.

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       Additional Vangard notes

          Chuck Henderson  said  he heard a local radio broadcast which was

       about the current  gas/oil  crisis   and   what   was   known  about

       alternative fuels.

          A caller from Fort Worth said he had access to the Nazi documents

       back in 1957 and had photocopied the them for his own  use.  He also

       claimed that he  had  successfully converted coal into gasoline at a

       cost of 10 cents per gallon.

          The man is George Vestal at (817)  497-4208.   I  called  him the

       next day but  he  was  out.  He later returned my call  and  sounded

       slightly manic as  if  he was hyper stimulated or overly excited.  I

       asked him about the radio talk show  and what he had.  He told me he

       had photocopied ALL THE NAZI DOCUMENTS in 1975 and  had  figured out

       how to convert the coal to gasoline.

          I then  asked  him  if  he  had found any information relating to

       electrical or flying  machines   and   he   said,   "Do   you   mean

       electromagnetic flying machines, yea, I have all that stuff."

          I told him of my particular interest in the Kugelblitz  and  that

       we could exchange information if he was interested.  He said no way,

       he was going to keep everything he had.  I asked him, "Well, what

       do you plan  to  do  with  it?" to which he replied, "If I can't get

       something out of it, I'll just keep  it  to  myself."  This included

       the coal to gas papers and processes.

          This information was passed around to various KeelyNet and

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       Vangard Associates who contributed additional information.  A friend

       has a friend  who knows Arnold Krammer of A&M very well.  He had him

       ask Mr. Kramer about the papers.

          Krammer said that the only papers  which  were publicly available

       in 1975 were the coal to gas papers and not many people  had  access

       to them at  the  time.  As to claims that other information had been

       copied, he said impossible, as the  crates  had not even been opened

       TO THIS DATE.  This was before the above article was published.

          So, as far as I am concerned, Mr. Vestal might have  some  papers

       but not the advanced documents which we are interested in.

          To our  knowledge,  the  papers  are  under  the  second  30 year

       moraturium and not available to the public until 2005.

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           Jerry W. Decker.........Ron Barker...........Chuck Henderson

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