Info-ParaNet Newsletters December 27th 1990
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 341
Thursday, December 27th 1990
Today's Topics:
RE: Super 8 film light streaks
Belgian UFO/Hard Copy segment
Re: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit
Belgian UFO/Hard Copy segment
Belgian UFO/Hard Copy segment
Belgian Ufo/hard Copy Segment
RE: Super 8 film light streaks
Re: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit
FYI
Resonant Gravity Field Coils?
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From: louie.edel.edu!mvac23!thomas
Subject: RE: Super 8 film light streaks
Date: 20 Dec 90 04:15:14 GMT
From: Thomas Lapp <mvac23!thomas@louie.udel.edu>
+ From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
+ Subject: Phenomenon framed again!
+ Date: 13 Dec 90 06:38:44 GMT
+
+ [individual frames having flashes on them]
Here is another theory I've not seen proposed: if the film and location
were at a lower humidity, it could very well be possible that she recorded
static electrical discharges on her film. I've known this to happen
with a 35mm still camera with a motor drive on it. When the motor drive
was left to run it pulled the film through the camera fast enough to
build up static electrical charge, which then sparked inside the camera.
Since the spark is *light*, it registered on the film. (in this case it
looked like green lightning on the photo).
+ Steve Rose - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
+ Here's another excercise...if you can leave the shutter open on your still
+ camera...aim it at a lampost at night and try to write your name by making
+ 'script' movements of the letters holding the camera in the air. Fun.
But difficult, as you have to 'write backwards' by moving the camera in
the direction opposite you want the 'pen' to write!
- tom
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From: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Belgian UFO/Hard Copy segment
Date: 20 Dec 90 02:56:00 GMT
Astonishing multiple videos and interviews of the Belgian flying wing UFO on
Hard Copy tonight, along with an interview with Vickie Cooper and ParaNet's
own Don Ecker! Way to go!
The weight of the evidence, and the amount of evidence -- including senior
Belgian & NATO military personnel, the Belgian gendarmerie and citizen
witnesses was practically overwhelming. So were the six separate videos of
the things (there are two, a wing and a disc, and they display a lovely
orange glow whenever they accelerate or maneuver rapidly).
There was also a concluding interview with Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. and a
commentary on the U.S. government's alleged possession of the Roswell craft
and the gov't's ongoing deception/lies about it. The Hard Copy commentary
contrasted the U.S. attitude with the obviously forthcoming Belgians.
Bravo!
Again, congrats to all concerned. Perhaps a letter-writing campaign by
ParaNet subscribers/members to the Producers/Story Editors of Hard Copy will
keep them focused on the subject. Eh?
Best,
Clark
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit
Date: 19 Dec 90 23:14:00 GMT
>
> (You might get your own facts straight before you criticize someone
> else.)
Keith:
Thank you for _clarifying_ some of John's points. However, I don't perceive
that he was so far off the mark to deserve such a pointed rejoinder from you.
Perhaps you can explain for us laymen how your clarifications have invalidated
John's basic point? And please remember, we're all trying to achieve the same
goal here. Wouldn't it be nice if people just tuning in for the first
time could see that disagreements can be discussed in a gentlemanly fashion?
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Belgian UFO/Hard Copy segment
Date: 20 Dec 90 21:38:00 GMT
> The weight of the evidence, and the amount of evidence -- including
> senior Belgian & NATO military personnel, the Belgian gendarmerie and
> citizen witnesses was practically overwhelming. So were the six
> separate videos of the things (there are two, a wing and a disc, and
> they display a lovely orange glow whenever they accelerate or maneuver
> rapidly).
I missed this effect, or did they just _say_ they glowed orange? Also, the
"hanging disk" video makes me a little nervous. I saw no anomalous movement,
except for a slow turning as if it were a medallion hanging on a chain, which
is exactly what it resembles.
> Again, congrats to all concerned. Perhaps a letter-writing campaign by
> ParaNet subscribers/members to the Producers/Story Editors of Hard Copy
> will keep them focused on the subject. Eh?
Good idea!
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From: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Belgian UFO/Hard Copy segment
Date: 22 Dec 90 00:22:00 GMT
Clark Matthews wrote;
> Again, congrats to all concerned. Perhaps a letter-writing
> campaign by ParaNet subscribers/members to the
> Producers/Story Editors of Hard Copy will keep them focused
> on the subject. Eh?
Clark, a very interesting idea. If you are serious let's see
what kind of response we get to that idea.
The address to Hard Copy is;
Hard Copy
5555 Melrose Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90038.
The producer of that segment was a guy named Dean Vallas. So
what does everyone else think?
Regards;
Don
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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Belgian Ufo/hard Copy Segment
Date: 22 Dec 90 15:56:00 GMT
> Clark, a very interesting idea. If you are serious
> let's see what kind of response we get to that idea.
>
> The address to Hard Copy is;
>
> Hard Copy
> 5555 Melrose Ave.
> Los Angeles, CA 90038.
>
> The producer of that segment was a guy named Dean
> Vallas. So what does everyone else think?
Let's get this rolling, gang.
Mike
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: RE: Super 8 film light streaks
Date: 21 Dec 90 16:25:19 GMT
> was left to run it pulled the film through the camera fast enough to
> build up static electrical charge, which then sparked inside the camera.
> Since the spark is *light*, it registered on the film. (in this case it
> looked like green lightning on the photo).
I wouldn't rule that out as there were a couple with a strong whitish-green
color. Yet on most of the frames the light flashes were multicolored and the
individual trails followed the principle light source(s). There were numerous
"strikes" on each affected frame of film. In addition, the effect was limited
to only a *single* frame with absolutely NO crossover to the adjacent frames on
either end. I doubt a static discharge would be so particular about its
target. :-)
Thanks for the comments and thoughts on the matter.
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit
Date: 21 Dec 90 16:28:01 GMT
> Ansel Adams is a poor reference for photographic science.
True, but he's one that Joe Public can easily find.
> (You might get your own facts straight before you criticize
> someone else.)
I'm no kind of chemist, just a news photographer with about 15 years
experience.
My point, and I believe you've confirmed it, is that it's quite
possible to unintentionally get an image in which a subject that was
visually brilliant is rendered as black in the final print.
This effect has long been seen in ufo photos, and the explanation
may not be as mysterious as some would believe. I've seen quite a few
people show 'black' ufo photos and in each case, the lecturer hadn't a
clue about how such a thing could be possible without resort to some
mysterious force.
jbh
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From: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: FYI
Date: 24 Dec 90 07:37:00 GMT
>From the "I'm Not Sure It's Real, But If So........... Dept."
I have just been informed by Mr. Dave Aaron, Video Dave of the
UFO Clearinghouse of the following.
If you have read Vol. 5 No. 6 of UFO Magazine, and have been
following the B-2 Bomber vis a vis UFO technology.... well it
looks like the good folks at Rockwell, builders of the American
B-2 Bomber may SUE the good folks at "STEALTH CONDOM." Yep, that
is right, Stealth Condom. . . not Condominium! as in housing, but
condom as in a rubber product. It would appear that the folks at
Rockwell are taking a proprietary interest in the name of
Stealth! As the story is unfolding, a leading Condom
manufacturer was going to market a "Stealth Condom" and Rockwell
felt the URGE to stop it at the court level! Guess you can't
tell where that sneaky little ol' Stealth will turn up.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Don
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: Resonant Gravity Field Coils?
Date: 27 Dec 90 06:14:22 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Someone posted a very interesting article to the Usenet newsgroup
sci.skeptic recently. It was a description of, and plans for, a device
called a Resonant Gravity Field Coil that allegedly could do things that
sounded like a mix of Lazar and the Philadelphia Experiment.
The device was alleged to be a gravity manipulator based on the
Biefeld-Brown effect. It used a coil inside of a coil instead of two metal
plates. It apparently involved capacitance as well as inductance because
the concentric toroidal coils were separated by molten wax, and the
description said that the wax was intended as a dielectric and the file had
been annotated to say that substituting glycerine for the wax would
increase the field strength because glycerine has a higher dielectric
constant. The field was called (at least in the annotation) a 'scorch
field', which of course is a term courtesy of Mr. Allen(de). The
characteristics of this field, and hence the distortions on spacetime
within the torus, could be varied by varying the current through the two
coils. No specifics were given, unfortunately.
Now the bad news. The origin of the file is probably untraceable. The
Usenet poster said that he had gotten it from a friend, and the friend had
downloaded it from BIX. (BYTE Information Exchange, a commercial BBS with
[mostly] a highly technical usership.) No information as to the identity
of the BIX uploader was given anywhere. Worse, the only identification the
authors of the file provided were 'Shadow Hawk' and "Eagle One". They
sound like hackers' (negative sense) or phreakers' handles, and in fact
they list three BBS numbers, one of which is named 'Pirate 80' and another
which is flagged 'Invitation Only'. I haven't tried the numbers; I don't
even know where in the U.S. they are or how old the file is.
Has anyone seen this file, and can you identify the authors? Has anyone
seen any files describing similar devices or theories? (I haven't called
the Tesla BBS, could it have come from there?) And of course the most
important thing -- could any of it be true? I don't even know if the
Biefeld-Brown effect is for real. The biggest amount of information I've
heard about T. T. Brown was from Moore and Berlitz, and I don't want to
consider them reliable sources. What, for example, does Brown call his
device in his patents? I can't see the patent office issuing a patent for
an antigravity device.
If there's enough interest, I could post the file here. I'm not doing it
now because it's about 19K, and I want to see if it's already been debunked
as complete rubbish before I waste bandwidth.
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