Info-ParaNet Newsletters , December 11th 1990

  

                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 337

 

                          Tuesday, December 11th 1990

 

Today's Topics:

 

                                   Re: Netmail

                                  Re: Al seckel

                                Phoenix Skeptics

                             Phoenix Skeptics cont.

                           Re: NAVY INTELLIGENCE CRYP

                                 Phenom 12-7-90

                             Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit

                             Phoenix Skeptics cont.

                                         Help

                                    Don Ecker

                        Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit

                     Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 2

                     Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 3


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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Re: Netmail

Date: 9 Dec 90 17:02:00 GMT



 >

 > Some sort of "...here!there!everywhere!whodat" business, I

 > assume?

 >

 > Best Regards,

 > Rick_Moen@f207.n914.z8.rbbs-net.org

 > ...llnl!wyrm!207!Rick.Moen


Something like that.


J_Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONet.org

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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Re: Al seckel

Date: 9 Dec 90 17:11:00 GMT


I missed that article in Smear as I tend to skip over anything written by 

Beckjord.


My sincere apologies to Michael Dennett, I DID mean John Merrell. Dennett 

happens to be an excellent spokesman for the skeptical movement.


Randi had some other troubles which you may not have heard about. He 

allegedly accused Eldon Byrd of being a convicted child molester, when no 

such conviction had taken place. [ADDENDUM: I see you have addressed this in a 

subsequent post.] 


And I knew Gauquelin was not a skeptic, I was referring to the "Gauquelin 

incident," which was, I think, a bit more significant than you imply. It is 

my understanding that the Mars Effect has never been successfully debunked 

(much to MY chagrin as much as anyone else's). Am I wrong in that 

understanding?


Jim


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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Phoenix Skeptics

Date: 9 Dec 90 21:49:00 GMT



I just had the interesting experience of speaking on UFOs to the Phoenix 

Skeptics, of which I am a member. I joined out of curiosity a couple of years 

ago, but have learned that local groups can do a lot of good work in ferreting 

out charlatanism, especially the medical kind. Its also good to have local 

groups dissenting the spread of Creation Science in schoolrooms, and I support 

their efforts 100% in this and other matters.


The members know I disagree with them on the UFO subject, I know they know 

it, and they accept me and I still function within the group. Overall its a 

very good bunch of people, and we have a good time.


Anyway, Mike Stackpole, the director, asked me to speak on the latest 

developments in Ufology, especially the Gulf Breeze affair. I tried 

desperately to boil down 3 years worth of controversy into half an hour, and 

failed miserably to convey the immense complexity of the case. Besides, I got 

the feeling I was preaching to the converted. "<Yawn> So Ufology is inept; 

what else is new?" One of the members challengingly asked me if I had any 

examples of cases that were relatively uncontroversial and unambiguous. I 

replied, "Yes", and proceeded to trot out the Belgium case. I read to them 

from the military press release (BELGPR.TXT) and showed them the video from 

Hard Copy - my VCR-TV connections were bad, so it didn't show up too well, but 

I managed to get it working well enough to also show them the Kanazawa tape.


I got the Kanazawa tape via Federal Express from Dr. Richard Haines, may his 

name be exalted forever, just in time for the meeting. As you might have read 

here about a year ago, I consider this tape to be the most impressive UFO 

video I've ever seen. There is no question of misidentification. There is no 

ancillary controversy - no blue beams, no anonymous letters to the local 

paper, no conversations in Spanish, no alien visits, etc. There is, I am 

assured, no chance of computer animation antics - we've come far in that 

field, but not quite this far. There is nothing except a Japanese man trying 

desperately to focus in on what for all appearances is a flying saucer, 

complete with foreground references, anomalous motions, reflections in all the 

right places, just the right amount of camera jiggle, etc. Yes, being strictly 

skeptical, you can hypothesize various ways in which it might be done, but 

subjectively, having viewed many such videos and photos, I'll stake my 

reputation that this is no hoax. Whatever true UFOs are, this is one of them.

(It should be stressed that this is my own view, not that of Dr. Haines, who 

is still analyzing the video.) 


<continued>


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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Phoenix Skeptics cont.

Date: 9 Dec 90 22:28:00 GMT



Anyway, I got some good comments on the tape from some of the gathered 

members - one said he'd like to see it under clearer conditions, and that I 

may have something interesting here. The negative comments, however, were what 

I was looking for. You see, I enjoy presenting to skeptics for two reasons: 

first, I like to have holes punched in my arguments (ok, I'm a glutton for 

punishment) - kind of a reality check. After all, if I'm all wet, I wanna 

come in out of the rain! Second, if I get no arguments, or the same tired old 

ones, I know we're REALLY on to something.


Suffice it to say that the tape survived without receiving a single hole. One 

gent said it looked like a Stealth fighter, but I'm sure if the picture were 

clearer he would recant. Another member raised the possibility of 

computer-generated graphics. This is a tough one to counter, but I have 

recently viewed some tapes of state-of-the-art virtual reality modeling, and 

I get the definite impression that we are not quite advanced enough to imitate 

the subtle nuances of image-blurring from motion, nor the other highly 

subjective properties seen in this tape. Computer animation creates a 

too-perfect, too-fluid world, even when it tries to imitate imperfection and 

stiltedness. You can still tell the difference. Its possible, I suppose, that 

someone in Japan has perfected the technique, but this tape was made a year 

and a half ago, and there are millions to be made in the computer-animation 

field. I believe we would have heard something by now.


Many of the skeptics seemed unswayed by this argument - it seems to have 

become an indelible fact(oid) that "computers can imitate real life so much 

that we can never trust a photo or video again." In the case of photographs, 

its almost certainly true, but videos are another thing altogether. However, I 

agree that the video should be heavily analyzed for this possibility.


The rest of the meeting was filled with a very revealing discussion that 

touched on many aspects of skeptical philosophy. One gentleman claimed that he 

was not going to believe until he had hard physical evidence of alien contact. 

My response was, "believe what?" There seems to be this notion that anyone 

claiming UFOs exist is arguing for the ET Hypothesis. He asked me what *I* 

thought was behind it all, and I told him that I *personally* think it might 

just be aliens, but that I wasn't there to argue the point. My point was that 

he, as a skeptic, could not explain the video, leaving a question mark where 

an answer should be, and that science is in the business of answering 

questions. The fact that I believe in the *possibility* of aliens was 

immaterial.


The discussion seemed to break down at this point over the question

of the proper role of skepticism, and how much skepticism is too much. One 

member chastised the other, (making it clear that he did not support me) 

saying, "I acknowledge that I am dogmatically opposed to your point of view. 

But let's acknowledge that its dogmatism, not skepticism."


The bottom line seems to be that, while we are making inroads in convincing 

some skeptics that bona fide unexplainables - indeed, downright bafflers - 

exist, their basic philosophy is that there is so profoundly little chance 

that they could turn out to be anything truly earth-shattering, due to the 

pre-eminence of scientific knowledge of the universe, that UFOs are simply not 

worth bothering with. They will not begrudge us our right to look into them, 

but short of the proverbial White House landing, we're on our own in our 

pursuit of the truth behind their nature. As with any dogmatic belief, its 

hard to argue with.


Still, having reassured myself that we're not chasing faeries and that we are 

in pursuit of a legitimate mystery that so far has no answers, I came away 

satisfied with the results of the meeting. I think I did manage to convince 

some people that we're a far cry from channelers and crystal-rattlers, and 

that we do have a big "?" here. Its just an argument over what to do about it.


Jim


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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)

Subject: Re: NAVY INTELLIGENCE CRYP

Date: 9 Dec 90 09:46:11 GMT


I'll be trying to freq it tomorrow if I get a chance. Thanks for the 

addition.

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From: Frank.Wegori@p0.f80.n120.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Frank Wegori)

Subject: Phenom 12-7-90

Date: 8 Dec 90 04:07:21 GMT


Greetings fellow observers!  What was it that the early morning crowd 

saw this morning at 0552 hrs near Plymouth, Michigan?  One eyewitness 

reported to a local allnews radio station, that he saw a bluish-green 

oval shaped object, emitting sparks(?) and in a crash-like trajectory.

He said he thought at first that it might have been a helicopter 

crashing, but said the shape (or something) changed his mind.  Sounded 

pretty shook up. Later I saw a ten second sound bite on CH7 which 

did not elaborate.  No news re: any debris or ground indentations. 

 Anyone hear anything?



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From: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)

Subject: Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit

Date: 10 Dec 90 06:11:00 GMT



 * Forwarded from "INFO.PARANET"

 * Originally from Don Ecker

 * Originally dated 12-09-90 22:08


Attention all ParaNet Members;


I have just uploaded PETIT.UFO to Alpha. I scanned the file into the system, 

and I will be interested in comments. This could prove to be a very significant 

addition to the data base. Petit is no lightweight scientific type, the man 

carries a very heavy reputation in Europe.


Don


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From: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)

Subject: Phoenix Skeptics cont.

Date: 10 Dec 90 06:15:00 GMT


Jim;


Very very interesting in reference to the Skeptics meeting. Can 

not wait to see this video.


Just as an aside, just what do these folks think all this is? I 

do not recall anyone being completely dogmatic that these things 

are ET, but how can they refute that these objects are still 

flying about, apparently immune to current state of the art 

Military aircraft?  Belgium for example? And------I would be very 

interested in the Skeptics rebutal to Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit.


Don


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From: vm1.yorku.ca!YSCS1296@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM

Subject:      Help

Date: 11 Dec 90 04:51:48 GMT


From: User <YSCS1296@vm1.yorku.ca>


Was wondering how I as a bitnet user could gain access to the myriad of

neat files you have on the MJ-12 scenario and related material such as

JFK's asassination and other such issues.  Also would appreciate any

pointers to other media such as movies (e.g., I recently took out the

old movie HANGAR 18 which was an attempt at an expose of the Roswell

incident and WPAFB Hangar 18; Communion, the movie; etc...) and any othe

related stuff (e.g., Ancient Astronauts - Chariot of the gods)....

Thanks.  Or is there a Paranet node in Toronto or nearby?





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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Don Ecker

Date: 10 Dec 90 18:47:00 GMT


My thanks to Don Ecker who has demonstrated his dedication 

to ParaNet by uploading the first text file scanned with a 

Scanman Optical Scanner and using OCR software.  This 

equipment is not inexpensive and I am very proud of the work 

that Don has done for the good of the network.  Don will be 

scanning a lot of text files in the future for ParaNet.


Again, thanks Don!!


Mike


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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit

Date: 10 Dec 90 18:49:00 GMT


The following messages may not be reposted outside of the 

ParaNet Information Service Network without citing the 

proper organization or persons: The French Match Magazine, 

Don Ecker and ParaNet Information Service.




THE  STATEMENTS  OF  PROFESSOR PETIT, WHO JUST RETURNED

FROM BELGIUM, WHERE HE INVESTIGATED THE RECENT CELESTIAL

APPARITIONS.


     "WHY I THINK THEY COME FROM SPACE."


     Among the scientists who rushed to Belgium to study the

grand show of  flying  saucers  which  was  seen  in  recent

months, Professor  Jean-Pierre Petit was one of the first to

arrive.  He was among the handful of Investigators  who  had

direct  contact  with  the pilots who encountered the UFO on

their radar screens.  To him, this is proof  that  the  UFOs

are  not an optical illusion.  But then the question arises,

where do they come from?  Professor Petit, along  with, many

other scientists, believes that they are of extraterrestrial

origin.  This   physicist, a   specialist   in  plasmas  and

cosmology, and a Director of the National  Science  Research

Center  of  France, has  just  published his views in a very

provocative book entitled Investigating  UFOs, published  by

Albin Michel.  In the book he explains the reasons we cannot

exclude  the possibility that the UFOs are piloted by beings

originating elsewhere in the universe.


     NOW WE KNOW  WHY  THE  PHOTOGRAPHS  TAKEN  OF UFOS  BY

AMATEURS ARE ALWAYS BAD.



Q:  Professor  Petit, given  the  fact  that the majority of

scientists refuse to study the UFO  phenomenon, doesn't  the

publication  of  your book automatically relegate you to the

domain of "fringe" science?

A:  Absolutely not.  I have been working  at  the  Marseille

Observatory for 15 years and I can assure you that nobody in

this research facility, which is part of the French National

Center  for  Science, considers me to be a fringe scientist.

I  publish  my  scientific  work  in  the  most  prestigious

scientific  journals  of theoretical physics, such as Modern

Physics Letters.  My most recent publication, which  treated

the subject of quasars, those objects located at the farthest

reaches of the universe and that we think may be the kernels

of  forming  galaxies, was  co-authored  by  the  astronomer

Maurice  Viton, who  is  on  the  staff  of  the   Marseille

Laboratory.


Q:  Do you consider yourself a rationalist?


A:  100%.  The reader will not find in my book any reference

to mysticism or the phenomena that we call paranormal.


Q:    But, in the libraries they put your book in with those

dealing with mysticism.


A:  That is based  on  the  fact  that  until  now  the  UFO

phenomenon  has  never  been treated in a scientific manner.

The literature that deals with this subject has always  been

mediocre.  Let's  hope that after a while my book will find

its true place, in the Science department.


Q:  Does the UFO constitute a scientific problem?


A:  Yes.  The work of physicists Meesen and Brenig, as  well

as  mine, shows  clearly that the UFO phenomenon is amenable

to a scientific and rigorous approach.


Q:  How can science explain the  sightings?  Don't  we  need

new scientific concepts?


A:    There  exist  aspects of the phenomenon which can be

approached with success by using quite conventional tools of

science.  Let me give you a precise example.  The people who

photographed the UFO were often very upset when they saw

that  the  film  they took did not correspond by a long shot

with what they had seen with their eyes.  We do not have any

photograph of the UFO taken from very  near, say  less  than

100 meters, simply  because  at such close range the object

does not show up on the negative.  During this  recent  wave

of  sightings in Belgium, many pictures were taken, but they

show nothing.  The physicist  Auguste  Meesen, Professor  at

the  University  of Louvain, has proposed an explanation for

this failure.  In certain conditions, infrared  rays  coming

from  an  object  have  the  ability  to totally inhibit the

chemical  reaction  that  permits  fixing an image on a negative.


Q:  Is this a theory?


A:  Not at all. It is a fact demonstrated by experiment

that has been known for a long time, but nobody up to now

has thought of it in connection with UFO photos.


Q:     So  the  UFOs  will  protect  themselves  from  being

photographed by emitting infrared rays?


A:  That is possible, but this emission  is  perhaps  simply

tied to the normal operation of the machines.


Q:    Would there be any way, then, to trick this protection

in order to obtain pictures despite the infrared radiation?



Continued in next message...


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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 2

Date: 10 Dec 90 20:43:00 GMT


>Petit Interview - Part 2 Continued


A:  Of course.  By using film sensitive to the infrared

portion of the spectrum.


Q:  If I understand you correctly, given that hundreds of

Belgians observed the UFOs from close  range  (some  of  the

UFOs were quite immobile above the rooftops of houses), if

this discovery had been made six months ago, we  could  have

the first precise pictures of this mysterious flying object?


A:  Exactly.

Q:  You haven't hesitated to use the term "machines."  In

your opinion, what are UFOs?


A:  Today, we can answer quite categorically that it is a

material  object.  At the beginning of the year a report was

sent to SOBEPS by the Chief of Staff of the  Belgian Air

Force, on the authority of the Minister of Defense.  Then,

on 22 June, 1990 this report was  supplemented by the

documents  gathered  by you for Paris Match, which consisted

of the recordings of five radars, three in  the  ground  and

two  on board the F-16 fighters which were sent to chase the

UFO. During this chase, which  lasted 75 minutes, the  two

F-16s managed three interceptions during which all of the

parameters of flight of the  object  were  determined.  This

study was  done with very  great  care by the Belgian

specialists before they divulged the  information, in  order

to  exclude  the possibility that there was a malfunction of

the radars or the computers.


Q:  Are they flying machines?


A:  Given the  speed  of  those  machines, more  than  1,800

kilometers  per  hour, they  could  not  have  been  weather

balloons.  Given the trajectory, it could not  have  been  a

meteorite  or  any  satellite  in the reentry phase of space

flight. Given the meteorological  conditions, it  could  not

have  been  either  natural phenomena or false radar echoes.

Given the accelerations that were measured -- 40 Gs --  this

could  not  have been an airplane.  Let's recall that one of

the machines accelerated in one second from 280 KPH to 1,830

KPH.


Q:    But  anti-missile  missiles,'aren't  they  capable  of

accelerations of 100 Gs?


A:    Yes, but  in  fact there is at this moment no man made

machine that is capable of performing at mach 1.5  close  to

the  ground  because of heating due to the high air density.

And, in this case, there was no sonic boom.


Q:  It was witnesses on the ground who reported the  absence

of a sonic boom.  Can we trust them?


A:    The  question  of  witnesses  is  superfluous.  If the

breaching of the sound barrier at very low altitude had been

done with  aircraft  using  our  technology, it  would  have

caused  tens  of  thousands  of  windows to be broken in the

suburbs south of Brussels, above which the UFO was flying.


Q:  Were these only "paper" studies?


Q:  If I follow your argument, this machine did not come

from the Earth?


A:  An earthly origin would seem to me totally excluded.


Q:  But can't we imagine some ultrasecret prototype?


A:  The aeronautical engineer and physicist that I am

answers you, categorically, no.  We are actually incapable

of building a machine with such performance, and don't

forget that such phenomena have been observed for the last

35 years.


Q:  Was this the first time a UFO was observed on radar?


A:   Certainly not, but  this is the first interception

officially acknowledged.


Q:    But  the  breaking  of  the  sound  barrier without an

accompanying boom must result from physics that  we  don't

understand?


A:   As surprising as it must appear, no.  There is a theory

that I have elaborated as early as 1975.  Between  1965  and

1975, when I was experimenting in my fluid dynamics laboratory,

I was working on an electrical generator which

is now one of the principal gadgets in the Star Wars

technology.  We made shock waves by making electromagnetic

waves react in a gas.  I said to myself: If we can create

shock waves with electromagnetic fields, one should be  able

with the same fields to annihilate shock waves forming

around an object.  When an object moves faster than sound,

the air molecules have a tendency to pile up in front of the

object, without being able to move off to the side and out

of the way.  This forms a shock wave, which is noticed by an

observer on the ground as a "boom."  To prevent  this  shock

wave from forming it is only required that we help the air

molecules to escape by sucking in the air at the same time

that it is piling up.  The machine advances through the air

literally  making a vacuum in front of it. It is a

fundamental and exceedingly simple idea. It happens that we

can execute this aspiration of gas at a distance with the

help of well known electromagnetic forces called "the  force

of Laplace. The means of acting on a gas with electromagnetic

fields is known as  magnetohydrodynamics, or Mhd.

On the theoretical plane,  these concepts date from the

1950s.  We were left to determine the optimum shape of

objects for this process.  I was extremely surprised to find

that this flying saucer had little in common with the  shape

of an airplane or missile, but that it had the shape of

spheres, cylinders and saucers. And I have invented an

object that I have called an Mhd Aerodyne, which devilishly

resembles a flying saucer!


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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 3

Date: 10 Dec 90 20:45:00 GMT


>>Petit Interview - Part 3 Continued<<



Q:  Were these only "paper" studies?


A:  Not at all.  There have been computer simulations a

well as publications in international technical journals,

and two doctoral thesis demonstrating the feasibility of

supersonic flight without a "boom" by using Mhd.


Q:  Are these theories contested by other scientists?


A:  Absolutely not. And in this scientific environment as

soon as we notice an error or a weakness in a work we are

not afraid to call it out, loud and strong in the

scientific journals or in the popularized science magazines

such as Science et vie, Pour la science, La Reserche,

Science et avenir, etc.  For the last 25 years that I have

been doing research, and the 15 years that I have

concentrated on this thorny problem, none of these magazines

has ever published a commentary disparaging me.   Believe me,

the critics think twice before attacking a work of research.

When I first became interested in UFOs in 1976 a member of

the Academy of Science somehow imprudently declared during a

public  conference  that a machine could not fly through the

air with the help of electromagnetic  forces.  When it was

time for my reply, he was waiting for a response based on

theory, and was extremely surprised when we brought in a very

simple and clear experiment whose result contradicted his

proposition.  When one tosses criticisms too lightly, one risks

being ridiculed, and that is not pleasant for anybody.


Q:  This UFO which was chased by the F-16s in Belgium, could it

not be a very simple ultra secret American or Russian machine

functioning with electricity?


A:    To  manufacture  such a machine would require that the

engine develop an amount of power equivalent to that of a

large  nuclear power  generating plant.  And if there is

anything not amenable to miniaturization, it is a nuclear power

plant.  Conclusion: the machines seen in Belgium are not of

terrestrial origin.


Q:  Given the fantastic acceleration detected by the Belgian

F-16, no human could have been aboard, and the UFOs must have

been simple robots rather than a vehicle carrying a living

being.


A:  Even though the human body in a state of total immersion

can bear great acceleration, the 40 Gs gives us a problem.

But there is more to it.  Numerous eyewitness reports tell

of right angle turns taken at full speed. In this

particular case the acceleration becomes...infinite, and the

machine itself could not support the turn without vanishing.

I have tried to approach this question in a very speculative

manner in my book.  In this phase of strong acceleration,

physical phenomena more sophisticated than Mhd could take

such a turn.



Q:  How could you explain the absence of  debate  concerning

UFOs in the scientific community?


A:    Until  now, when  a  scientist  wanted  to  have  some

information  on  the  subject, he  could  only   find   very

superficial  or  trivial  books.  Also, the  contents of the

newsletters published by some French UFO research groups  is

not of a nature to encourage further interest by scientists.

Nor   could  a  scientist  be  favorably  impressed  by  the

publications  of  GEPAN  (Groupe  d'Etude   des   Phenomenes

Aerospatiaux   Non-identifies, a  UFO  study  group  created

within the French National Center for Space  Studies).  What

do  you  want, when  a scientist opens a book where the UFOs

are compared to fairies and elves, and to the  ministrations

of  the  Virgin  Mary?  He  will slam the book shut at once

But it is not simply because a subject is  polluted  by

persons with debatable competence that it should be brushed

aside.  With the reports of the Belgian military in hand we

now have the objective unarguable data that was formerly

absent in the files, and this should interest scientists.


Q:    The military has a reputation for being very silent in

general, and is particularly silent when the topic of UFOs

comes up, and has gone to the point of actually spreading

disinformation, as has been shown recently  by  investigator

Jean Sider in his work Ultra Top Secret--The UFOs Which

Bring Fear (Axis Mundi Editions).  How do you explain this

sudden about-face in the political scene, to a policy of

openness and honesty on the part of the Belgian Defense

Minister?


A:    Among the reasons for the reticence of military men to

divulge the information in their possession is the worry

that publication will cause hysteria.  Another reason may be

that Belgium is the only country in the world where, for 18

years, the subject of UFOs has been closely followed by real

scientists.  So an exceptional climate of confidence has

been developed.


Q:  And in France?


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