TELECOM Digest Tue, 18 Oct 94

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. 

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     Dynamic Negotiation in the Privacy Wars (Ross E. Mitchell)

     Virtual Phone Numbers Are Not the Same as Real Ones (Paul 

Robinson)

     Will Video Dial Tone Have the Same Old Vices? (John Robert Grout)

     Voice, Data, Video All at Once? (Greg Corson)

     A and B Boxes (Clive D.W. Feather)

     Cellular Local/Long Distance Problem (Jeff Bamford)

     MCI Local Service in Chicago? (Robert A. Book)

     Do I REALLY Need an EIR? (Mike Lyman)

     What Does *67 Do? (Robert Patterson)

 

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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 00:46:06 EDT

From: Ross E Mitchell <rem@world.std.com>

Subject: Dynamic Negotiation in the Privacy Wars

 

 

The following article, which I co-authored, has just appeared in the

November/December 1994 issue of MIT's Technology Review.  This article

is distributed with permission of the publisher.  The entire issue is

available on the World Wid Web.  The home page can be found at:

 

http://web.mit.edu/afs/athena/org/t/techreview/www/tr.html

 

If you would like to re-post this article elsewhere, please be sure to

include the Copyright notice.  Also, if you discuss "dynamic

negotiation" in relation to electronic privacy issues, I would 

appreciate

it if you would credit me as the source of the term/concept.

 

                 -----------------------------------

 

         Dynamic Negotiation in the Privacy Wars

 

Ross E. Mitchell and Judith Wagner Decew

 

New telecommunications technologies are undermining our ability to

remain anonymous. The situation has inspired a sensible solution that

would make privacy self-regulating.

 

People want information about others but are reticent to divulge it

about themselves. Nowhere is this conflict more apparent than in the

telephone feature known as caller identification, or caller ID, which

allows those receiving calls to see the telephone number and name of

the caller before answering the phone.

 

Telephone companies are promoting and installing caller ID throughout

the country. Proponents of the technology argue that it provides a

valuable service to those pestered by obscene or harassing phone calls

or persistent telemarketing. But some privacy advocates vehemently

disagree, maintaining that callers should be able to choose to remain

anonymous. In a world of interlinked computer networks and massive

data banks, they say, people already give away too much personal

information without their knowledge and consent. They further worry

that the prospect of identification will deter anonymous police

tipsters and callers to hot lines for drug abusers, AIDS victims, or

runaways.

 

There is, however, a logical and intuitive way to implement this

technology that should satisfy both camps. This new way of thinking

about privacy regulation, which we call "dynamic negotiation,"

permits us to enjoy the benefits of new telecommunications

technologies - including, but not limited to, caller ID - without

sacrificing our right to privacy.

 

Most caller ID systems automatically release the caller's phone

number. To prevent this information from being divulged for a

particular call, the caller must enter a code (typically *67) before

dialing the number. In other words, callers must take an extra step to

retain the privacy that they had taken for granted. They must learn

how to block transmission of the data, and must remember to dial the

code each time. This is known as "per-call" blocking.

 

Some phone systems allow "per-line" blocking - the caller's number is

kept private by default and is released only when the caller enters an

"unblocking" code. But in rules scheduled to take effect next April,

the Federal Communications Commission has decided that the potential

public value of caller ID outweighs the privacy concerns of those who

want automatic blocking of numbers. The commission stated that per-

line

blocking was "unduly burdensome" and ruled that on interstate calls,

only per-call blocking is to be permitted -- preempting state 

regulations

that allow per-line blocking.  We propose an alternative - a system

that allows people to dynamically negotiate the degree of privacy they

wish to sacrifice or maintain.

 

Here's how such a system would work with caller ID. Initially, all

phone subscribers' lines would, by default, block the release of the

caller's number.  Subscribers could choose to release their number on

a per-call basis by dialing an unblocking code (other than *67). So

far, this is just per-line blocking. But in the system we suggest,

phones with caller ID displays can also be set up to automatically

refuse calls when the number has not been provided by the caller.

When an anonymous call is attempted, the phone doesn't ring. The

thwarted caller hears a short recorded message that to complete the

call, the originating phone number must be furnished. This message

then instructs the caller what code to dial to give out the number.

Otherwise, the call is incomplete and the caller is not charged. Thus,

a caller has the chance to decide whether a call is important enough

that it is worth surrendering anonymity.

 

This solution preserves choice and ensures privacy. Callers can

control, through a dynamic and interactive process, when to give out

their numbers; recipients can refuse anonymous calls.

 

Most callers, of course, will want to release their number when

calling friends and associates. And if such calls dominate their use

of the phone, they might choose to change the default on their line so

that it automatically releases their number unless they dial in a

blocking code.  Thus, a dynamic negotiation system may well lead many

people to change from per-line to per-call blocking - precisely what

the phone companies and the FCC favor. But when these customers change

their default setting, they will know what they are choosing and why;

they will be actively consenting to give out their numbers as a matter

of course.

 

Most businesses will want to take all calls, whether numbers are

provided or not. But certain establishments might want to reject

anonymous calls - for example, pizzerias that want incoming numbers

for verification to avoid bogus orders. Most callers will happily

unblock their numbers when such a business asks them to.

 

Some display units that can be purchased for use with caller ID are

already able to reject anonymous calls, but they are a far cry from

the dynamic negotiation system that we propose. With these caller ID

units, every call, whether accepted or not, is considered to have been

answered - and charged to the caller. But a call that is rejected

because of its anonymity should entail no charge. This requires that

the call be intercepted by the phone company's central office

switchboard before it reaches the recipient's line.

 

Although inspired by the debate over caller ID, the concept of dynamic

negotiation of privacy can apply to other telecommunications

technologies. One likely candidate is electronic mail. With

traditional paper mail, people have always had the right - and the

ability - to send anonymous correspondence.  Delivery of the envelope

requires neither that a letter is signed nor that a return address is

provided. On the receiving end, people have the right to discard

anonymous mail unopened.

 

Applying the principles of dynamic negotiation, senders of electronic

mail would have the option to identify or not identify themselves.

Recipients could reject as undeliverable any e-mail with an

unidentified sender. The sender would then have the option to

retransmit the message - this time with a return address. As with

caller ID, the users negotiate among themselves. The system itself

remains privacy neutral.

 

Several criteria guide such an approach: the need to protect

individual privacy for all parties to a communication, the importance

of letting new technologies flourish, and the need for national

guidelines to provide consistency in system use and privacy

protection. Since technological innovation proceeds rapidly, we must

continually examine how best to make possible new features while

preserving or enhancing our existing level of privacy.  The technology

for implementing dynamic negotiation is already available. All that is

needed is for the FCC to amend its recent ruling. If the FCC refuses,

the House Telecommunications Subcommittee should propose legislation

to require dynamic negotiation. With this system as the national norm,

privacy concerns would become self-regulating.

 

               -----------------------------------

 

ROSS E. MITCHELL, based in Newton, Mass., is a designer of

telecommunications software. JUDITH WAGNER DeCEW is a professor of

philosophy at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.; she is working on 

a

book on legal and ethical disputes over privacy protection, to be

published by Princeton University Press.

 

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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 11:51:03 EST

Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA

From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>

Subject: Virtual Phone Numbers are Not the Same as Real Ones

 

 

Due to new hardware and software, Bell Atlantic offers several new

features for telephones including a "virtual telephone number"

feature, which is marketed under the service mark "Identa-Ring".

 

A virtual telephone number causes the ring cadence to change when that

number is dialed in place of the "real" number, "real" being the one

generated for ANI or Caller-Id when the line with a virtual number

places a call.  A real number will ring with "RING!  (5 second pause)

RING!", repeated until answered.  A virtual phone number generates a

ring similar to the one used in Great Britain, which consists of

"RING-RING!  (5 second pause) RING-RING!", repeated until answered.

 

One day I was out of change at a pay phone and didn't want to try to

find my credit cards which were back in my bag, so I decided to call

my number collect.  I dialed 0+301+ the virtual, Identa-Ring number

and when the automated attendant asked me to dial my credit card or 11

for collect, I dialed 11 and got a recording saying the number did not

accept collect calls.

 

That's funny; I've never asked Bell Atlantic to refuse collect calls.

I tried MCI's 1-800-COLLECT.  It also told me that my number refuses

collect calls as does AT&T's 1-800-32-10ATT.  I walked back, got my

credit card and placed the call.

 

Once I got hone I tried some tests. I have three phone lines in my

house.  I used the restricted one to call the other line collect and

it accepted it; the other way was refused.  So I called repair service

and explained the problem, giving them the main number all three lines

are billed under (the one that a collect call works to).

 

I had the repair service woman call me back so I could demonstrate the

problem from my third line. I demonstrated that if I called my number

collect it refuses it.  If I call the number she had called me on, the

call goes through for collect and is stopped because it is busy.

 

So she suggested that maybe it has something to do with the

identa-ring number.  I had to go and find an old bill with the number

on it; I don't even use the main number of that line (the only person

who calls that number is my sister and the occasional telemarketer.)

 

I tried calling that number collect and the system attempted to do so;

I sheepishly admitted that this is the problem, e.g. that an

identa-ring number can't be called collect.

 

So this capability works either as a problem or as a feature; if you

only give out a virtual telephone number, people can't call you

collect on it, but neither can you.  But you still have the main

number if you can remember it.

 

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From: jg2560@cesn7.cen.uiuc.edu (John Robert Grout)

Subject: Will Video Dial Tone Have the Same Old Vices?

Date: 18 Oct 1994 20:08:19 GMT

Organization: U of I College of Engineering Workstations

Reply-To: j-grout@uiuc.edu

 

 

Two incidents (one in the late 1980's near where I used to live in NJ,

and one here in Illinois in 1994) have made me wonder about the role

of the US Federal government in guaranteeing competition in the new,

supposed Golden Age to come of "video dial tone" (telecom-carried

television programming).

 

In the late 1980's, a condo complex in Mahwah, NJ wanted to set up

their own program delivery system which would act like a cable

operator ... it would combine community antenna service and

redistribution of cable networks fed to them through their own large

satellite dish.  When the complex tried to get zoning approval for the

satellite dish, the township government fought them.  During the

ensuing legal proceedings, it was revealed that the township

government was acting mostly to protect the exclusive cable franchise

they had signed with the local cable operator ... and (if I remember

correctly) they won.

 

Earlier this year, the cities of Champaign and Urbana in Illinois

signed a new, fifteen-year exclusive cable franchise with the local

cable operator (Time-Warner of Champaign-Urbana), who promised a new

system (the "Gateway System") to provide many channels at low cost ...

but the catch involved did not become public knowledge until six weeks

ago.

 

To avoid stringing fiber-optic cable to households (which, admittedly,

is expensive), Time-Warner will only string fiber-optic cable to whole

neighborhoods and convert them all, en masse, to the "Gateway System".

However, when a neighborhood is converted, the conventional cable into

their homes will have only TWELVE unscrambled, uncompressed channels.

Receiving any of the others must be done with a converter box which

serves as a TV tuner for every TV, every VCR on which one wants to

pick up a separate channel, and every "picture-in-picture" feature;

and each one must have a separate box. Because the boxes are

brand-new, the FCC is allowing Time-Warner of C-U to charge $4 a month

for them ... and, because they are descramblers (not just 

decompressors),

they can't be purchased.

 

To make things even worse, the initial software release for the stupid

boxes wouldn't even change the channel at a preset time to allow

recording of multiple programs on different channels ... but, in 

recent

weeks, Time-Warner announced that a new version of the software will

allow such things.

 

Since a clear majority of Time-Warner's customers in Champaign-Urbana

have expanded basic service (about 35 channels) without any premium

channels which require a descrambler (e.g., HBO, Cinemax), this

franchise agreement has become a political hot potato (e.g., a local

attorney running for State Assembly is a law partner in the firm which

represented Time-Warner during the franchise negotiations). In

the discussion which has followed the announcement of the "converter

box" requirement for the "Gateway System", people here are beginning

to question the advisability of allowing municipalities to sign any

such exclusive franchise agreement for television programming.

 

Picture the following scenario ...

 

It's October 2004...  Ameritech (our local telephone company) now

provides "video dial tone" throughout Champaign and Urbana, and

several different program providers (ITT/Cablevision, IBM and SunSoft,

among others) offer their wares through Ameritech.  Even though

Federal law doesn't require a program provider whose programs are

distributed through a common carrier to obtain a franchise agreement

with a municipality [the result of a recent real-life court decision],

program providers and municipalities are still allowed to negotiate

such agreements voluntarily [are they? will they be?].

 

Since many residents have complained about the high cost of

programming delivered through Ameritech, IBM offers the cities of

Champaign and Urbana a wonderful deal ... they'll provide programs at

a lower cost for everyone ... but there's a catch: Champaign and 

Urbana

must sign a franchise agreement which will require Ameritech to unplug

all rival program providers from its network in Champaign-Urbana.

 

Back to the present ...

 

I would like to see Federal laws enacted which will prevent consumers

from being tied by their municipalities into the kind of provider-

friendly

practices we have endured here in Champaign-Urbana ... such as the

Gateway System's converter box, Time-Warner of C-U's refusals (before

the Gateway System) to carry Showtime (because their parent company

owns rivals HBO and Cinemax), and the hypothetical right of program

providers to voluntarily franchise themselves through municipalities.

 

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To borrow a slogan from the candidate running against the attorney

mentioned above ... once common carriers provide "video dial tone" to

an area, I believe that local municipalities should be "unplugged"

from any power to make exclusive agreements with program providers.

 

 

John R. Grout Center for Supercomputing R & D  j-grout@uiuc.edu

Coordinated Science Laboratory     University of Illinois at Urbana-

Champaign

 

 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Why John, that would take all the fun

out of local politics. Imagine the Chicago City Council for example,

with one less source of bribe money.  Nah, your idea will never work.  

PAT]

 

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From: milo@mcs.com (Greg Corson)

Subject: Voice, Data, Video All at Once?

Date: 17 Oct 1994 23:36:36 CDT

Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account Chicagos First Public-Access 

Internet!

 

 

Ok ...this is probably a question that's been done to death ... but

here goes anyway.

 

I'm trying to figure out how to setup a private "internet" between a

number of locations scattered across the US.  There is a fair amount

of data, fax, telephone and videophone calling between these locations

and we want to get it all onto a private network where we can

consolidate all the data and have better control.  Right now each site

uses a combination of dedicated ISDN and analog lines/modems.

 

What I'm looking for is some sort of "all in one" setup that works as

a phone switch for analog, ISDN, PBX-style phones and can accept sync,

async or ethernet as data inputs.  On the phone company side would be

something like PRImary rate ISDN, a frame relay cloud or something

similar.

 

Most of the suppliers I've talked to have offered only very expensive

solutions that involve stringing together a lot of boxes from

different companies.  I'm thinking there must be a better, more

integrated solution by now.

 

Whatever the network is that connects all the sites together, within

the site we need 10 voice phones, FAX, at least one routed ethernet

and in some cases a switched async connection with another site

running around 128kbps. An automated operator feature is also required

to answer incomming calls and play messages about store hours and

such. Any site must be able to contact any other site through the

private network using voice, FAX, videophone, ethernet or by the async

line.  The sites must also be able to make and receive normal

local/long distance telephone calls.

 

If anyone knows of some kind of box that knows how to integrate all

these functions, please contact me.  As I've said, all the

non-integrated systems I've looked at come out too expensive because

of all the hardware needed to interface one communications "world"

with another.

 

 

Greg Corson     Virtual World Entertainment Inc.

(312) 243-6515  milo@mcs.com

 

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Subject: A and B Boxes

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1994 14:04:06 GMT

From: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@sco.COM>

 

 

Pat:

 

The following just appeared on uk.telecom. I'm sure your readers would

be interested.

 

  From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell)

  Subject: Re: Badly designed payphone

  Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:55:36 GMT

 

I thought I would have a go at writing up the rudiments of the old

button A/B boxes.  I'm sure there are plenty of people on uk.telecom

who can correct or expand any points.

 

Are you sitting comfortably...?

 

Remember that we are back in the days when only local calls could be

dialled, all trunk calls had to be made through the operator.  (Hmmm,

well, that was the theory, eh Robin?).  All coins referred to below 

are

what we would now call "old" or "pre-decimal" coinage.  And AFAICR

local calls were always untimed.

 

It its "normal state" the button A/B box had its handset active but

the dial was inoperative, apart from digits 0 (for operator), 9 (for

emergency) (and, I think, later on, 1 for transition to operator=100).

 

The coin box accepted three different coins: the penny (1d), the 

sixpence

(tanner) 6d, and the shilling (bob, 1/- , which was 12d for those who

might not know that).

 

When preparing for dialling a local call, one had to insert the 

correct

fee, which at the time I remember was four pennies.  Inserting the

first coin had the effect of thrusting a bar aside, which disabled

the handset microphone.  The pennies collected in an internal bucket

which acted as a kind of weighing machine - when four had been put in,

the bucket dropped and enabled the dial to work.

 

You then dialled the call and waited for the called party to answer,

whereupon you would press button A.  This deposited the contents of

the internal bucket into the cash box, re-enabled the handset

microphone, and brought the bar back across the coin slots and

put the dial out of action again.

 

As was remarked in an earlier posting, you could hear enough to

recognise who had answered, and if you were not satisfied you could

take the same action as you would if you got busy tone or no-one

answered, namely to press button B.  This caused the line to be

disconnected and the contents of the internal bucket to be dropped

into the coin-return chute,  A noisy clockwork timer was then

heard which kept the line disconnected for some tens of seconds,

presumably to make utterly sure that the call had been disconnected

before letting you try again.

 

Just to remark that if you didn't have four pennies, you could not

make a local call.  No chance of inserting a sixpence or a shilling,

and forgo the change, as they could not weigh down the bucket.

In such a situation you might persuade the operator to do it for

you.

 

Now we come to operator connected calls.  What I have not yet

mentioned is that inside the coin box, the pennies passed a chime

and the other coins passed a bell (single bong for sixpence, two

bongs for a shilling), with a microphone inside the coin box to

pick up the sounds.  To make an operator call, you did NOT insert

any money (otherwise the operator would not have been able to hear

you), just dialled 0 and (after a sometimes considerable wait) got

asked for the desired number.  The operator would then tell

you how much money to insert, and would count the jangles and bongs

to see you had done it right.  In the event of a disagreement you

could not argue (your mike was dead after inserting the first coin,

as I said) but had to press button B and start the whole thing again.

 

The operator would then attempt to connect you and in the event of

success would say the immortal words "Please press button A, caller"

after which you had 3 minutes.  You would then be offered the

opportunity to insert a further 3 minutes worth or be disconnected.

And so on.

 

There were umpteen ways circulating amongst us schoolboys for getting

local calls free.  (Getting operator calls free was a matter of being

able to make convincing jangles and dongs, I guess).  This posting 

should

not be read as a confession that I ever did any of these things ;-)

 

The slotted pennies trick enabled pennies to be inserted without

thrusting the bar aside and disabling the microphone.  Five slotted

pennies would be needed to get the right weight for the bucket to fall

and enable the dial.

 

After finishing the call, one pressed button B and recovered the 

slotted

pennies.  However, if discovered, there could be a prosecution for

defacing coins of the realm, so it was better to use penny-sized 

disks,

then the charge would only be misuse of the Postmaster General's

electricity.

 

(Is it really true that someone got off an earlier charge of "stealing

the Postmaster General's electricity" on the grounds that it couldn't

be theft because he hadn't actually taken any of it away with him?).

 

Later models of box were designed to prevent the slotted pennies 

trick.

 

Back-dialling was a reputed method of winding the dial up to the 

"free"

positions 0 or 9 but only releasing it far enough to dial the desired

number of pulses.  One school friend claimed to have mastered the 

trick,

but never successfully demonstrated it to me.  There were several 

quite

different designs of dial mechanism (as we assiduously read up in 

Atkinson

in the local reference library) and this probably depended on getting 

a

dial of a vulnerable type.  I've forgotten the details.

 

Briskly rattling the rest was another way to create dial pulses 

without

needing a working dial.  This was said to produce a characteristic

irregular noise at the exchange, alerting the engineer and perhaps

resulting in a call trace.  As I said, 0 and 9 could be dialled

freely, so a number such as 20109 would be a doddle.

 

It's all a long while ago now...  you can imagine the nostalgia seeing

that Papa Stour box on the tv news.

 

[Papa Stour 224 was apparently the last A&B box, and has just been 

replaced.

Most went during the 1970s. Papa Stour 224 is +44 595 73 224.]

 

 

Clive D.W. Feather      Santa Cruz Operation

clive@sco.com           Croxley Centre

Phone: +44 1923 813541  Hatters Lane, Watford

Fax:   +44 1923 813811  WD1 8YN, United Kingdom

 

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From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford)

Subject: Cellular Local/Long Distance Problem

Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo

Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 10:24:42 -0400

 

 

  Okay, here is the background: A couple weeks ago I went to

Toronto, Ontario with a friend and brought along my Cell Phone.  Since

it was the weekend my air time was free, so I thought I'd use it.

 

  From Toronto I dialed back to Hamilton (a long distance call

from a regular phone) calling my home phone number, I dialed as

905-570-xxxx.  I got the message that "Long Distance Call, Dial 1 blah

blah blah".  I then tried calling the number to retrieve messages from

the Telco's voice mail service, this number was 905-312-xxxx.  This

call went through as if it were a local call, i.e. there was no

message to indicate that it was long distance.

 

  On the bill I was charged for the call to voice mail service.

Cantel (Cellco) indicated that it would be Bell Canada's (Telco) that

let it go through.  They said they just put the call into Bell's

network and whatever happens to it after that would be Bell's doing,

i.e. In their mind, I dialed a number and it was long distance and

since Bell accepted it I was dinged for the long distance charge.  The

Bell woman that I talked to was hopeless, she really didn't understand

why it went through but wasn't willing to give me someone else to talk

to about the problem.

 

  In this case I knew that Toronto-Hamilton was long distance

but there could obviously be a time when I don't know that something

is long distance.  I had thought that maybe the 905-312 exchange was

in a community between Toronto and Hamilton for billing purposed and

hence local on a cell phone.  This is the only time that this has ever

happened.  Any other time I call a long distance number the call does

not go through unless I dial the 1 first.  I always dial calls as 10

digits because outside of my home area code local calls don't go

without the local area code, so that is not the problem.  Anyone have

ideas on this one?

 

 

Jeff Bamford    jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome

Office/Lab: +1 519 885 1211 x3814     Fax: +1 519 746 8115

 

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From: rbook@Tezcat.Com (Robert A. Book)

Subject: MCI Local Service in Chicago?

Date: 18 Oct 1994 11:25:39 -0500

Organization: Tezcat.COM, Chicago

 

 

I recently heard a news report on the radio that MCI will begin

offering local telephone service in the Chicago area.  As a Chicago

resident intensly frustrated with the local provider (Ameritech), I

want to be first in line for this.  I called MCI and they said that

they had planned to go on-line with this by the end of this year, but

FCC regulatory problems were slowing things down, and they were hoping

for the first half of next year.

 

Does anyone know anything more about this?  How will it work?  In

particular, (how) will MCI be able to provide the dialtone and local

service on already existing wires?

 

 

Robert Book   rbook@tezcat.com   (312) 465-8757

 

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From: Michael_Lyman@sat.mot.com (Mike Lyman)

Subject: Do I REALLY Need an EIR?

Reply-To: Michael_Lyman@sat.mot.com

Organization: Motorola Satellite Communications

Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 22:04:14 GMT

 

 

Regarding the use of Equipment Identity checking in GSM or DCS1800

systems, I trust that those systems currently deployed are not using

this mechanism ( since it's probably not available ? ). Has anyone

working in any functioning GSM-type system really missed having an 

EIR?

 

In general, I question the real usefullness or practicality of an EIR

to prevent fraud. I'm wondering if the cost of purchase and

maintaining this piece of equipment justifies it's existance?

 

As a side issue, is the prevalence of fraud in GSM networks of the

same magnitude as in traditional analog cellular networks (and can

they be defeated by IMEI checking)?

 

 

Michael Lyman   Motorola S.E.D. ( Iridium )

Chandler, Az.   lyman@sat.mot.com

 

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From: rpatt@netcom.com (Robert Patterson)

Subject: What Does *67 do?

Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 

guest)

Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 16:01:55 GMT

 

 

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area under the auspices of PacBell.

They do not offer CallerID.  When I dial *67 (apparently the CallerID

on/off signal) I get a couple of clicks and a dial tone.  The

switching department at PacBell vehemently claims that nothing is

happening.  Anyone with an idea?

 

 

Bob Patterson (rpatt@netcom.com)

 

 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What's happening is that the local

switch is accepting your command to 'do not pass calling number ID

to call recipient' just as it is supposed to do. And then, it proceeds

not to give out that information ... which it wouldn't do anyway

under the present circumstances there, but that is beside the point.

They are using a version of software which allows for *67 and it

is probably easier for them to leave it as is rather than disable

the use of that command (which does nothing anyway). For instance,

in some exchanges in Chicago which were not Caller-ID equipped, 

meaning

calls from phones in that area showed up as 'out of area' on caller

identification boxes elsewhere, *67 still worked as you describe. I

guess they figured soon enough it would have a purpose, so they just

left it alone. I imagine PacBell feels the same way. Why bother to

change/eliminate it everywhere then possibly have to go and put it

back in at a future time.    PAT]

 

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End of TELECOM Digest V14 #402

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