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Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-05 13:53:20 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Adrienne, this is my first time going anywhere outside the state for a
booksigning. I'm really jazzed about it. And I've never seen AZ, so that's an
added treat. On the downside, yesterday I had to have two molars pulled, so
unless the swelling goes down, I'm going to look like a chipmunk. sigh.
Aimee
http://www.comet.net/writersm/thurlo/home.htm.
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-05 22:38:51 edt
From: AngBrown
Posted on: America Online
Lillian - I was at ASU Fall of 87 thru Dec 88. I finished up my degree
there, but spent most of my years at Washington State.
Tess - What is the second book about the Tavistocks and when did it come out?
Aimee - I imagine that address is somewhere around old town Scottsdale,
although I'm not sure. Good luck!
Well, all, I'll be gone for a week. I have my family reunion in NM Sat -
Tues and then I have to fly straight from my vacation to a business trip in
Torrance, CA for the rest of the week. Don't know when I'm ever going to get
any writing done...
Angela
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-06 00:16:24 edt
From: Happeth
Posted on: America Online
Aimee, I hope I can make it. If I get my Nebraska business done in time I
might be able to do it. I'm going to try real hard. I would love to walk in
the store and anounce loudly that I flew all the way from NY just to get one
of your books. (g)
Happeth
Hope I get to see you soon.
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-06 03:37:56 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
I know it's disconcerting having your cheeks puffed out at a time when
you want to look your best. I always have chipmonk cheeks. I thought it was
because I'm so big and beautiful, but with all this moving, came across some
pictures of me when I was young and svelt and these cheeks were cubby then
too. <VBG>
Adrianne, who can't help the chubby cheeks and can't stop
smiling.
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-06 07:49:38 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Thanks Sherry and Adrianne! I'm at the 250pg mark still:(( School is out
now and it's time for patience instead of terminal PMS<sigh> My writing goes
so slowly during the summer. Kids don't understand--Don't interrupt!!
Take care all--I'm outta here for awhile. Have to write faster<G>
Jean (whose glad to see there are still people on this board)
Subj: Re:book
signing
Date: 96-06-06 12:15:15 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Happeth, if you do that I swear I'll hug you!!! <<announce that I came all
the way from NY) ROFL!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Aimee
http://www.comet.net/writersm/thurlo/home.htm.
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-06 12:17:07 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Angela, you've given me a wonderful idea. We exchange photos with a British
couple--they send us some of their country and we reciprocate. This sounds
like an excellent photo op for us and until you said, "Old Town" I never
thought of taking the camera! Thanks, lady!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-06 12:19:43 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
David's been teasing me unmercifully about my puffy cheek (both teeth came
from the same side) He bought me a stuffed animal. It's either Chip or Dale,
the Disney Chipmunks. The one I have has the black nose. I feel much better
today, though. The swelling's down, but the cheek is black and blue. Not so
much that I can't cover it with make up though.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-06 12:20:27 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Jean, do you get angry when you get interrupted? I find that my mood
deteriorates after the fourth or fifth interruption!
AimeeSubj: Re:Tavistocks
Date: 96-06-06 14:37:38 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Angela,
the second book in the Tavistock pair (after IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS) was THIEF
OF HEARTS. It came out in '95. It was about Jordan getting tangled up with
a female cat burglar.
If you have trouble finding a copy, e-mail me with your snail mail
address, and I'll be happy to send you one free!
Tess
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-07 08:20:29 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Aimee--
Anger isn't quite the word<G> It's more like a feeling of wanting to be The
Terminator! All my work has been written under the most trying conditions
and I figure if I can survive years of kids under feet, legos under my desk,
piles of wash behind me plus an occasionally unsupportive dh, then I can
survive anything.
I do find my frustration level roaring toward outter space when I want to
write and can't sit down long enough to get out a coherent thought let alone
a sentence. That's when I blow and my oldest son (12) says, "Gee, mom, did
you get a rejection letter today?" AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!
I usually tell them if they want to do wonderful things and have extras then
I have two choices, sell a book of get a job which means daycare or sitter
for them. They always shape up for about a week and opt for the "sell a
book" scenario. Persistence does count for something...at least I hope it
does. I've been at this long enough and I'm constantly learning and
perfecting the craft. I choke over the stuff I wrote ten years
ago...LOL...and I actually submitted the ???work<G>
Patience is a virtue, but darn if I can summon up a permanent supply. Take
care and grab that basketball or strike a deal<G>--))
Jean
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-07 12:56:40 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Jean, I can sympathize. I have a new neighbor who owns eight dogs. She
decided to build the dog kennels away from her house and right outside my
bedroom window. It would be fine, except one dog barks constantly. And I mean
constantly. I have to keep my windows closed all the time if I want to
concentrate, and it works but only if I have the air conditioner on. I've
tried talking to her, but nothing works. She bought an anti bark collar, but
now we get serenaded. The thing beeps to show it's working, but the dog still
barks. Only now it's followed by a beep. sigh. Between that and the
basketball I'm ready to SCREAM.
Well, I have a manuscript due today, so I better get to it.
Aimee
http://www.comet.net/writersm/thurlo/home.htm.
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-07 14:06:21 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Jean--
Odd, but I seem to write better in the summer when my daughter is outside
most of the time. But maybe that's because I still work full time, so her
being home has no effect on my days.
--Sherry
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-07 14:09:01 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Aimee & Happeth--
My brother-in-law's mother (convoluted family connections here) lives in
Hungary. She came for a 3-month visit last year. At one of my book
signings, during a rare (not) slow moment, she yanked open the outside door
of the B&N, raced inside shouting in her thick Hungarian accent, "Are you
Sherry Lewis? My Gott! I've come all the vay from Hungary to get my book
signed," and thrust a copy of NO PLACE FOR SECRETS under my nose. Still
makes me grin.
---Sherry
Subj: kids
Date: 96-06-07 14:53:47 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
my sons are 14 and 11, and over the years I've tried to tailor my writing
schedule to the school bus -- and to the school year. You know, write nine
months out of the year, no weekends, hours from seven thirty to three. When
they're around I can't do ANYTHING that requires mental exertion. They suck
all my energy.
And yeah, sometimes I yell at them.
But now I realize that their interrupting my work is actually good for my
mental health. It ensures that I take time away from writing and let my
brain sort of veg out. Amazing things happen when you're not writing -- your
brain is still working on the story, but in a sly sort of way. And
occasionally you get flashes of genius.
Only wish those flashes would happen more often!
Tess
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-07 16:04:48 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Sherry, that's really funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's my kind of relative,
lady!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:kids
Date: 96-06-07 16:07:16 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Tess, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. I've read your stuff, and
it's all great, from the Harlequins to the Harper ones.
Aimee
PS. I LOVE your photo in the back of PEGGY SUE. Great shot!Subj: Re:book
signing
Date: 96-06-07 18:34:11 edt
From: Hutchy
Posted on: America Online
This is a mother-in-law in a million, you lucky girl! H.
Subj: Re:book
signing
Date: 96-06-07 23:23:00 edt
From: Happeth
Posted on: America Online
Aimee, I managed to schedule my two appointments, in Nebraska, both on the
same day, Tuesday. Then I need to visit some relatives that evening or on
Wednesday. So if I can get a flight Wed night or Thursday morning I should be
able to make it. I'm not sure how long the flight from Nebraska to Phoenix
is.
I could run into trouble if I get bumped off a flight. I am flying on a
pass and paying customers get first dibbs on the seats.
Hope to see you there, and if I make it, you better believe I will announce
that I flew in just to buy one of your books.
Happeth
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-08 11:47:33 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Happeth, you're such a hoot!!!! I hope you can make it!!!!!!
I HAVE A HUGE FAVOR TO ASK YOU ALL. I just found out that if we sell 2000
copies more of DEATH WALKER than we did of BLACKENING SONG, we get put in the
advertising money pool we've been begging for. So if you guys go into a
bookstore and find DEATH WALKER, FACE IT OUT!!!!! The more people SEE the
book, the better our chances are!
THANKS GUYS, IN ADVANCE!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-09 15:19:08 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Aimee--
Already been facing the book out (of course) but shall continue to do so with
renewed vigor.
--Sherry
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-09 18:22:46 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Many thanks, Sherry!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-09 22:16:14 edt
From: AHDN64
Posted on: America Online
Aimee -
I went to local Waldens (closer than B&N) to get your book. They had to order
it for me and when I asked if they would be getting more copies, they said
no.
How can you sell books if the book isn't in the bookstore?
What is wrong with the publisher? I was just at the Horror Writers Meeting
and heard that distributors are part of the problem (using part time help,
supermarket distributing, etc.)
Maybe we should e-mail bookstores? Does Waldens (et al) and B&N have e-mail
addresses?
Mitz who's still waiting for Walden's to call. .
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-10 13:32:05 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Mitz, this is what makes me totally nuts. How on earth can anyone expect an
author to have top notch sales if nobody can FIND the book!!!! It's making me
totally and completely nuts. We have radio spots starting in NM, Dallas, St.
Louis, and Denver. What I've done is contact the bookstores I deal with in
that area to let them know about the radio spots so they will have books on
hand. Hopefully there will be books available, but as you can imagine, there
are no guarantees. It's such a very frustrating business!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-10 13:32:49 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Mitz, if you find an e-mail address for Waldens or BN let me know okay??
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-10 20:50:57 edt
From: Haaland300
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
I've picked up Blackening Song and would like it signed, or bookplate would
be nice. I'm trying to write you via email but aol keeps terminating me in
transit. So one of these days I hope to get through. Posts to aol work ok,
it's the internet stuff that gives me trouble. In the meantime, I thought I
might as well add to the posts here wishing you well at all signings.
Mary
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-10 23:30:07 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Mary, I'm going to try contacting you through E-Mail. AOL keeps knocking me
off the air tonight.
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-10 23:33:02 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Mary, I'm still on, so I'm going to try replying here. I'll be glad to sign
the book for you and mail it back to you, or send you a bookplate. Whichever
you'd like is fine. If you decide to mail it, my address is P.O. Box 2747,
Corrales, New Mexico. If you'd rather have a bookplate E-Mail me your snail
address and I'll send one off to you. I can be reached here as AAuthor, or at
Compuserve 72640.2437@Compuserve.com.
I hope you'll enjoy Blackening Song!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-11 03:49:21 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Mitz--
I don't think it's the fault of the publisher when you can't find a book
on the shelves. I could be wrong (it's happened before) but I believe a lot
of chains have one central buyer who decides what to order from the catalogs
sent by the publishers. Publishers do what they can--I mean, they want our
books to sell, too, but if the regional B&N buyer doesn't choose the book, I
don't think many of the stores have authority to do more than special order 1
or 2 here and there. Some book stores can order direct from the publisher,
some can only order from the distributor. It's different all over. In my
area, I call Waldenbook stores direct to set up signings, but I just tried to
set one up in Denver and was told they couldn't do that-- I had to go through
their regional office. And this explains why authors frequently look do
dazed when you see 'em at book signings and conferences. Another great
mystery of the writing life solved.
---Sherry
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-11 11:13:49 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Sherry, the problem is that the lead books get the attention and everyone
carries those. It's the ones further down on the list that suffer unless the
author gets behind them. Everyone will order the ones the publisher is
pushing most, but the rest get hits and misses. It's then up to the author to
push like mad and convince the booksellers that they're a good risk. And the
quantity ordered is also dependent on where on the list you happen to be. For
instance everyone will order Stephen King's. Not everyone orders Laymon. Both
authors are skilled, but one's obviously at the top. In my case, Waldenbooks
will order our books, but not in large enough quantities to cover all of the
US. So, although you can walk into any store in the midwest, southwest and
northwest and find our work, down south or in the mid -Atlantic you're likely
to get a "WHO?"
So once we identified which areas weren't carrying our work, then we got to
work. We concentrated our mailing lists, targeting those areas.
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-12 02:07:52 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Mitz,
I'd like to know if you find an e-mail number too. : )
Adrianne, who writes Intrigues
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-12 08:36:05 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Aimee--
Try what my dh's grandmother did years and years ago on the farm--a sleeping
pill in a biscuit<G> It worked...the dog didn't bark and she got a good
night's sleep<G>
Jean(who's ducking the fire from lurking Vets)
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-12 08:37:38 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Sherry--
Now that I've settled into the first week off, I can write with bombs going
off<G> I enjoy my boys and now that they are older, they're outside almost
all day long. So<G> I write!! I think it was getting used to the noise
level after nine months of silence.
Jean
Subj: Re:kids
Date: 96-06-12 08:41:30 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
Okay, fess up, does it get better with boys<G> Mine are 9 & 12 and yesterday
they were at each other nitpicking constantly. Had to place them on
different floors to get a breath! I, too, usually tailor my writing to 9
months (8-2pm) no weekends and catch what I can during the summer between
ball games etc. I find taking off a week here and there (like to do a
marathon cleaning of my house) works, too<G> My mine hashes over plot
problems and Voila!!! I find a solution, and not necessarily the one I
needed<sigh> which means dumping scenes usually<G
Such is the writing life,
Jean (who's aiming for THE END)
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-12 11:12:27 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
I may just do that, Jean. It's getting old. My neighbor just doesn't realize
that the dog is just outside my window, but fifty yards from hers. It makes a
lot of difference! Particularly at two a.m. I wake up with asthma at about
that time, but when I'm ready to go back to sleep, it's ARF, ARF-ARF!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-12 14:52:52 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
By all means, give the dog a 'sleeping pill' -- as long as it's the
over-the-counter kind! Many people don't realize those are just the same
antihistamine as Benadryl. The manufacturers are just capitalizing on the
side effect of drowsiness. Works on dogs too and it's harmless!
Your lurking vet,
Lillian
PS. If one doesn't work, try 2. Good luck!
Subj: Re:kids
Date: 96-06-12 15:09:10 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Jean,
don't know if it gets better with boys. I certainly hope so!
Right now "the end" seems further and further away for me. I'm still
writing scenes, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to go back and change
EVERYTHING. Waah. And school ends in a week and a half.
Then all the summer visitors descend.
Help...
Tess
Subj: Re:Off Topic
Date: 96-06-12 20:08:22 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Jean--
Oh, yeah. That noise level. The TV, the phone, the neighbors kids running
up and down the street, the neighbors who think they're being funny when they
bang on your office window. The change of season always throws me a bit,
just getting used to it all :-) Glad to hear you're making progress.
---Sherry
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-12 21:52:55 edt
From: JKenn10050
Posted on: America Online
Are you saying the over the counter sleeping pills are the same antihistamine
as Benadryl? Then you can't say they are harmless. I have an allergy to
Benadryl. It can kill me. One of the allergy reasons my doctor tells me to
be sick at home and stay away from hospitals.
Subj: Re:kids
Date: 96-06-12 22:01:10 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
Your guys are still in school??? Mine got out June 5th. We only used 5 snow
days<G> You probably used more, right??
My END means going back and starting the juggle, toss, whine, pound my head
with frustration, and work toward a coherent copy<G> But at least I have
400pgs to work with and don't have to come up with new material, said the one
who hopes she doesn't<G>
Jean
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-12 22:04:49 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Oops!! JKenn--
My son has allergies to sulfate based drugs, so reading the back ingredients
of everything is a must--which I assume you do, right??
Jean
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-12 22:26:20 edt
From: Haaland300
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
Sending you the book sounds good to me. I'll try to get it in the mail next
week. Thanks very much.
Mary
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-13 02:42:44 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Yikes, JKenn!!! On a board devoted to Women-in-Peril readers and writers,
you've just given us a great way to kill someone. Allergy to Benadryl.
Gives me shivers and lots of nasty plot ideas. Please stay away from that.
Be safe.
OTOH, I'm being interviewed by the local paper tomorrow--who I contacted
about the imminent release of EDEN'S BABY. The reporter said she wasn't
really interested in my books. There are _lots_ of authors in the Sequim
area, you know. But she would like to do an article on where I get my ideas.
Duh!!! From my imagination. I was wondering what else I could say, but
maybe JKenn, I can say from discussions on the AOL mystery, winp board.
Thanks for the help!! <G>
Adrianne Lee, who writes for Harlequin Intrigue.
Subj: Re:kids
Date: 96-06-13 02:45:05 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Tess & Jean,
I'm so glad my girls are all grown. But believe me they were just
as noisy and uncontrolled as my friends' boys. But I wasn't writing then.
<g>
Adrianne, who is doing an interview in the middle of moving.
Am I really THAT hungry for publicity?
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-13 12:25:46 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Mary, we'll look forward to getting the book, and I'll sign it and ship it
back ASAP.
Today we have our signing at Scottsdale. Wish us luck!
-Aimee
Subj: Re:benadryl
Date: 96-06-13 13:52:24 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
Sorry JKenn -- I wasn't talking about people. The topic was how to make the
neighbor's dog shut up so poor Aimee could get some sleep! I'm a vet,
that's what I do, and Benadryl is one of two meds which are so safe I will
actually advise people over the phone to give it to a dog. Have never,
through my or anyone else's experience (and believe me, we talk about these
things) ever head of a dog having an adverse reaction to Benadryl, other than
drowsiness -- which in this case is exactly what we're hoping for! OTOH,
it's only moderately effective as an antihistamine.
Please do not construe this or anything else I might say as medical advice
for a human being. :-)
Hope I've cleared up any misunderstandings
Lillian
Subj: dogs
Date: 96-06-13 15:09:05 edt
From: CBURNS1
Posted on: America Online
Ok, Aimee, here is my dog advice. I hate to say this because I really
think that the victim will end up being the poor dog who is barking for a
reason. He simply seems to have a stupid, careless owner. He is probably
bored or lonely and wants to be in the house with the rest of his "pack".
However, it is keeping you awake. So, next time he barks for more than 15
minutes straight, call the police. Tell them this is chronic and that you
have spoken to the owner. They will go wake her up. Frankly, and this is
strictly my personal opinion, anyone who can not come up with a better method
of training or disciplining a dog than a shock collar has no business owning
one. If she were my neighbor I'd probably yank the collar off the dog and put
it on her! Sorry to sound so hard about that, but shock collars are a sore
spot with me.
Hope the Arizona trip is great!
Colleen
Subj: Re:Barking Dog
Date: 96-06-13 22:03:00 edt
From: JKenn10050
Posted on: America Online
Any time, Adrianne!!
Subj: Re:benadryl
Date: 96-06-13 22:06:45 edt
From: JKenn10050
Posted on: America Online
Sorry, didn't mean to imply any panic or cause it. It's just that even
touching benadryl will cause the skin to drop off, as I found out when I had
to apply some ointment to my daughter when she had a bad sting. I can't take
it internally or even touch it. For such a wonder drug for allergies, you
really wonder at it causing a deadly reaction, right? Apparently, I'm a rare
duck. I wouldn't give to my dog, because he has weird reactions to every day
things, too. He swelled up like a balloon and started choking when he had
his puppy shots. I had to rush him to my vet. Medicines aren't us!!
Subj:
Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-13 23:42:16 edt
From: Haaland300
Posted on: America Online
Absolutely, best wishes and a good time at all your signings.
Mary
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-14 07:12:50 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Aimee--
Good luck at your signing! Hope you push 2000 books<G>
Jean
Subj: Hello!
Date: 96-06-14 08:45:04 edt
From: MSTSchramm
Posted on: America Online
I've enjoyed reading the messages here for some time, so I think it's time to
say hi to you all! Unlike many of you, I'm unpublished--trying to finish the
first draft of a mystery/suspense novel.
Romantic suspense/woman-in-jeopardy type mysteries have always been my
favorite reading, although I like many other types of books as well. It seems
as if I read one genre intensely awhile, then switch to something else. A
friend in my critique group suggested that I should read more in the straight
mystery line to see what else is being done. I started looking around and
found some authors whose work I admire very much. Lately I've found myself to
be flirting with elements that seem to be more prevalent in other types of
mystery, so I think I should give those up until I finish this ms.
Those of you who have been published many times probably don't need to worry
about this any more--but did you when you were first writing? I love to
read--it's one of life's greatest pleasures--but I need to figure out how to
manage it so that I can write, too. I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Laura Schramm
P.S. I do plan to pick up some of your titles, once I get around to going
back and writing down the names. It would have been easier to make a note of
them as I've been checking the boards, but, hey, why do anything the easy
way!
Subj: Re:benadryl
Date: 96-06-14 14:15:58 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Lillian, as an owner of four dogs, soon to be five, three rats and two
horses, I can honestly tell you that I really wish I had a vet who was as
down to earth as you!!!! If you ever move to New Mexico, be sure to let me
know.
Aimee
http://www.comet.net/writersm/thurlo/home.htm.
Subj: Re:dogs
Date: 96-06-14 14:19:41 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Hi Colleen,
The signing in Scottsdale went super. They had us meet with a reader's group
afterwards at a different store, and that was the most fun of all! And I got
to see an old friend I hadn't seen in years and years. All in all, a very
enjoyable day.
Last night though I was so beat, that when we finally got back I can honestly
say that I didn't hear the dogs barking until eight. Of course we'd gone to
bed at five, so I'm totally wiped out.
I spoke to my neighbor about the collar. She's coming out more often to yell
at the dogs, but honestly, what I can't seem to communicate is that the dogs
are a nuisance at 2 and three am., even if she doesn't hear them! Today it's
quiet. It's raining, and the dogs don't seem to be doing much barking. Two
blessings-- silence and rain!!!! Someone up there must like me.
Aimee
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Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-14 14:25:28 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
I wanted to thank all of you here, particularly HAPPETH who absolutely made
my day at our signing in Scottsdale. What hoot! Happeth walked into this
crowded room and in a loud voice said, "I CAME ALL THE WAY FROM NY TO GET
YOUR BOOK!" I almost fell off my chair. I'm keeping that moment in memory for
all time! She was delightful, warm and friendly. She came straight from the
airport and didn't even have a hotel room yet!!!! Happeth, thanks so much!
All of you here have been so supportive! You're a terrific bunch, Jean, Mary,
Tess, Alice, Lillian, Colleen, Adrienne, and ALL of you guys! I just wanted
to say THANK YOU!!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-14 18:04:06 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Happeth,
you are a doll to make such a grand entrance at a booksigning! (I have to
remember this trick next time I go to someone's signing.)
Aimee, too bad I couldn't be there too. In fact, we could all make grand
entrances and announce how far we came to meet the illustrious author(s).
Wouldn't THAT sell books?
Tess
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-14 18:39:33 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Tess, Happeth was such a hoot! Happeth when you come back and read this post,
I'm sending you a copy of CISCO'S WOMAN. You were absolutely great! I'm sorry
that the store didn't have any there!
Tess, I'll make a deal with you. If I'm ever in the same place you're giving
a signing, I'll do it for you, and you do it for me! It'll be fun! Then we
can take each other out for something decadent, like a gooey thick milk
shake!!!! And if Happeth is there, we'll both take her out and give her a
hug!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Hello!
Date: 96-06-15 08:39:32 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Hi Laura--
Welcome to the group. We love new input<G> I'm not published yet, so don't
worry about the questions. As for how I handle reading/writing. I write
contemporary and read historical or nonfiction when I'm writing so that
nothing interferes.
Jean
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 08:42:21 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Happeth--
Way to go!!! What guts to walk in yelling<G> You should be in promotion!
Tess-- So, what have you planned or Pocket planned for you??
Jean
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 11:34:23 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Jean,
so far, Pocket's got me scheduled for booksignings in New York, Boston,
Martha's Vineyard, Louisville (!!?) and Phoenix, plus towns all over Maine.
The schedule's still being worked on, so there'll probably be more cities
added. They're waiting for bookstores to actually REQUEST a signing, rather
than Pocket approaching THEM -- the publicist says it'll ensure that I don't
go anywhere that isn't fully supportive and ready to throw some effort into
the signing. (She knows how I HATE to sit in a store with no takers.)
Just saw the video of my TV ad. Shows a gurney being rushed down a hall
and into an O.R. while we hear a heartbeat. Then the book jacket comes
onscreen under the OR lights, title in blood red. Creepy but cool!
Tess
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 11:35:26 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
it's a deal! (Can't wait to walk into a store and announce "I CAME ALL THE
WAY FROM MAINE FOR YOUR BOOK!!")
Tess
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 12:22:08 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
YAY Tess!!!! That ad sounds like dynamite!!!!!
I've had those signings, too. There was one, where we were signing with
another author the store had spent two months promoting. People would come up
to him and say things like I buy SW mysteries all the time, without having a
CLUE as to who we were or what our book was about. This author would always
ask 'how did you hear about the book'. The answer invariably was 'the store
people recommended it'. His book had received a starred review in PW, so had
ours. But the store had recommended him and totally ignored us. It was a
humiliating experience.
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 12:23:06 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Okay, Tess, I promise to come in with my best Cuban accent and say, "Senora,
I came from Cuba to meet you and buy your book!"
<GGG>> You're a hoot, Tess. I hope we do get to meet someday!
Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 12:50:41 edt
From: CBURNS1
Posted on: America Online
I think we should all do the "I CAME ALL THE WAY FROM...." whenever we
can! One of you needs to come to my area for a signing and I'll be only too
happy to do it. That way, you'll know it's me:) In another century, when I
finish my book you can all do it for me;-)
Tess!!!!! A TV commercial? I've never heard of a tv commercial for a
book! How thrilling! I hope I see it! I live in Santa Clara, Ca. About 45
miles south of San Fransisco. If you get a signing in SF let me know:) I'll
be shouting as I barge through the front door!
Colleen
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 14:45:32 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
What TV commercial. Come on, tell all.
--Sherry, absolutely expiring from curiosity.
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-15 16:49:36 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Sherry,
Pocket's produced a 15-second TV ad spot for HARVEST that so far is slated
to air nationally on CNN, and in selected cities during Oprah and ER. (I
keep pushing them to do X-Files, because it's a scary story that will appeal
to X-File-philes.) Cool, huh?
Tess
Subj: Re:I'm back
Date: 96-06-15 21:58:38 edt
From: AngBrown
Posted on: America Online
Whew, I'm finally back from my week of travels. Aimee, I hope you liked
Scottsdale and had some fun. It sounds like your signing went well! I
really enjoyed my stay in NM (which I always do). That area around Abiquiu
is gorgeous, it's like a fantasy. Do you live anywhere near there? One of
the books I brought along with me was Fatal Charm. It was fun reading a book
that was set in the same place I was visiting.
Tess - did you go to ABA? Or has it happened yet? I saw that Harvest is one
of the books that Pocket will be featuring. I noticed that because a friend
of mine also has a book coming out this fall from Pocket, in this case a Star
Trek art book, and I was checking to see what kind of promotion he's
getting. Do authors even go there? I imagine if they do they probably run
around kissing up to everyone in sight! (I have the most hilarious picture
in my mind right now....)
Well, I missed checking in every day, and I'm glad I'm back (for a couple
weeks, anyway).
Angela
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-16 09:51:18 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
More than cool! Wow. I'll have to watch for it. and, um, can I have your
autograph?
--Sherry
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-17 09:28:38 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
When and where is Pocket scheduling the TV ads--Lifetime maybe?? Way to go!!
As for Louisville, they have a big RWA group there. Put a bug in Pocket's
ear to consider Nashville -- Davis Kidd Bookstore (they're not as romance
friendly unless you're hardback, but they are 3 floors of wonderful books<G>)
plus Ingram Distributors have a huge facility based in Nashville along with a
major distribution center for Walden Books.<G> Never hurts to try.
Jean (who can't wait!!)
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-17 09:32:12 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
Opps<G> I see where and when, now I'll set the recorder! I've only seen ads
for Sandra Brown and John Grisham...can't wait for yours<G>
Jean
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-17 15:50:07 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Jean,
will definitely suggest Nashville to my publisher! The book will be out in
hardcover and is only a semi-romance, mostly suspense -- I made a conscious
decision to keep the romance element low-key so I wouldn't have to wrestle
with that "oh, it's just a romance" gorilla. Sad, isn't it, when a writer
has to do things like that to get some respect out in the publishing world?
Hope I'll be meeting you one of these days!
Tess
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-18 15:25:49 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
I miss Nashville, having moved from there 2yrs ago. But do let me know if
you'll be signing, 'cause I'll pull all the avid readers out of the woodwork
for you<G> Next best thing to yelling, "I came all the way from Ohio for
your book!!!"
Jean
Subj: Great News!
Date: 96-06-18 18:07:54 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
I just spoke to our editor at Harlequin today (Huntley) and she told me that
Harlequin has been receiving a lot of mail, all favorable, about Cisco's
Woman. Harlequin's excited and so am I since this was the first time I really
patterned a heroine after myself! Apparently, the book has struck a cord with
many asthmatics, and many people who have asthmatics in their families! I
can't tell you how good that made me feel!
Aimee
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Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-18 18:46:27 edt
From: Happeth
Posted on: America Online
Tess, where is your signing in New York. If possible I would like to stop by
if it isn't too far.
Happeth
Subj: I'm back
Date: 96-06-18 18:52:08 edt
From: Happeth
Posted on: America Online
Aimee, I'm back in NY and on AOL. It was wonderful to meet you and your
husband I'm so pleased I managed to make it and have fun with "I'm all the
way from NY." (G)
After you left the book manager told us that the resorts were cheaper at this
time of the year and referred us to the Phoenician Resort. Well thanks to
him, my daughter and I were pampered for two luxurious days at this beautiful
resort. All at half the cost. This is a place I could never afford at full
price. Stopping in the bookstore for your signing ended up giving us a great
vacation.
Happeth
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-18 23:08:37 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
Way cool, Aimee! wow, mail... Do they forward these to you? Does that
make it all worth while?
Lil
Subj: Re:I'm back
Date: 96-06-19 15:03:28 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Happeth, I'm delighted it worked out for you!!!! You were absolutely
wonderful to stop by and announce that you'd come from NY!!! You made our
signing!
Thanks a million, lady.
Aimee
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-19 15:05:12 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Hi Lil,
Harlequin eventually forwards them to the author, but it takes awhile. I had
one letter once that had been mailed 10 months earlier. sigh. But hey, at
least I got it! In this particular case, because that book was closer than
most to me (the heroine and I both have severe asthma) I'm hoping it won't
take that long.
Aimee
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-19 15:48:06 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
wonderful news about all that mail you're getting about CISCO! I have to
confess, I received very few letters about ANY of my Intrigues -- so you're
obviously touching a nerve among readers. When Harlequin sends it all to
you, how 'bout sharing some of those letters with us?
Tess
Subj: Re:booksigning
Date: 96-06-19 15:50:00 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Happeth,
I'm not sure yet which store my NY signing will be in -- I think Barnes and
Noble, and the last I heard it will be Aug. 19 or 20. (Pocket is scheduling
everything for me.) Would really love to meet you! I'll let you know when
the event gets finalized.
Tess
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-19 16:15:14 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Tess, I think what might have struck a cord with readers was the Dear Reader
letter I put in the front. And you bet, when Harlequin sends them along, I'll
make sure and share some of what was said with you all.
The thing about this book was that it was really difficult to write,
particularly during those times when I couldn't breathe, and neither could my
heroine. <GG> The scenes where I describe the insecurity that comes from
'does he love me enough to see past the asthma' came from my personal
experience when David and I were just dating.
You see, in my native country and in my generation, I was taught never to
tell a man about my asthma because this made me faulty somehow and less
desirable as a mate. (Like you can hide it when you're turning blue?!) It's
taken me years to realize that it's stupid to try and hide something like
that. We are what we are and we just have to accept ourselves.
When I first met David, I never would use the inhaler around him although
this was at the very least, highly uncomfortable for me. When I went to NY
I'd excuse myself and go to the restroom rather than use an inhaler in front
of an editor. (Of course, they might have thought I had dysentery
instead-<gg.)
After 26 years of marriage, David and I often crawl the floor at midnight in
various stages of undress searching for an inhaler that took a nose dive off
the bed and is lost right when I happen to need it. Neither of us thinks
anything of it. When I go to NY if I have to use the inhaler I do, though I
don't make a point of it, and figure the editor won't worry half as much as
if I disappear every few seconds turning blue, then returning, just to
disappear again. <gg>
But it's taken me a long, long time to feel comfortable enough to talk about
it.
Anyway, forgive the long post, but I figure I'm among friends here, and this
explains why it was so very gratifying when I found out Harlequin had been
getting tons of mail.
Aimee
PS. HAPPETH, I know the store in Scottsdale didn't have CISCO'S WOMAN, but I
promised you a copy. The offer still stands. If you'd like one, E-mail me
your address, and I'll send a signed copy. I finally got my author's
copies!
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-19 23:02:59 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Aimee--
Oooh, letters! Yes! Can't wait to hear the feedback. I know you must be
thrilled. Good luck!
Jean
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-19 23:22:14 edt
From: CBURNS1
Posted on: America Online
Ok, true confessions here. I hate to use my inhaler in public too. Infact,
I still won't use it in front of my boyfriend if there is an easy way to get
around it. (Like if he leaves the room!) Pretty silly, I know, but I hate
people to gawk and ask questions. However, if I am beginning to turn blue, I
give in and use it!
I think it's terrific how supportive everyone on this board is of one
another. You guys make my day:)
Colleen
Subj: Re:Hello!
Date: 96-06-20 00:07:25 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Laura,
Welcome into the waters. They're warm and friendly. As to your question,
I read really really slowly and so I read only at night before going to bed.
Makes my TBR (to be read) pile enormous. I think we all have to watch the
elements of others' books creeping into our own writing even after being
published. We are all still striving to improve and we can't help but admire
our peers' work and want to emulate it. But somehow your own voice will out.
I think that most writers read in other genres while working under deadline.
I don't. I still seem to have my own little style. Must be too
thick-headed. : )
Adrianne Lee. EDEN'S BABY will be out in a few more weeks. <VBG>
Got the covers and boy does it look like a romance. Guess Harlequin Intrigue
knows what they're doing?
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-20 00:13:14 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Aimee & Tess,
Me too!!! Me too!! I yell, I CAME ALL THE WAY FROM WASHINGTON STATE JUST
FOR THIS AUTHOR'S (YOUR NAME HERE) LATEST BOOK (LATEST BOOK TITLE
HERE)!!!!
Happenth, you are the star of this board, lady. Enjoy!!! We will all do
the same for you one day.
Adrianne, who had to come out of moving hell to say hi to everyone.
Am getting a new computer next week and so will be off a while again until I
get it up and running. Don't have too much fun without me. : (
Subj:
Heartbeat
Date: 96-06-20 00:15:13 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Tess,
I got a chill just reading your post. Imagine what the book will do to
me. I can't wait. <VBG>
Adrianne, who will be doing a booksigning for EDEN'S BABY in
Kalispell July 27th if anyone is going to be in Montana. : )
Subj: Re:book
signing
Date: 96-06-20 00:18:01 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Tess,
You would try for the X-Files. LOL.
Adrianne, who needs to get back to unpacking.
Subj: Re:book
signing
Date: 96-06-20 11:02:10 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Adrianne,
get that new computer up and running! Can't have you off the boards for
too long, now, can we?
Aimee,
my husband Jacob is asthmatic, and we both know what it's like to be
crawling around at night searching for that magic inhaler. Really, I can't
imagine ANYONE being bothered by an asthmatic taking a few needed puffs in
public -- especially since the alternative is to be fighting for each breath.
He manages to cope by avoiding wood smoke and animals -- even canaries!
No wonder your readers felt so connected to your story -- good for you,
Aimee, to finally give readers an asthmatic heroine!
Tess
Subj: Re:mail
Date: 96-06-20 14:25:01 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Colleen, I still feel awfully self conscious about the inhaler, and on more
than one occassion, I remember trying to grab it fast and squeeze, only to
have it shoot out of my hand and launch itself across the room cause I really
didn't have a firm grip on it. Talk about embarrassing!!!!
Asthma is really impossible to hide well. People have a tendency to assume
the craziest things when they hear the funny breathing and see us leaning
forward.. I've learned the hard way that the inhaler is the lesser of all
evils, and most people won't care--- well, the ones who'll matter anyway!
But trust me, I understand your feelings very, very well!!!
Hugs, Aimee
Subj: Re:book signing
Date: 96-06-20 14:32:11 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Tess, I'm the same way with birds. I thought I could play with my neighbor's
parakeet, I mean, good gravy, my fist is bigger than he is, but that cost me
an entire week's worth of asthma and prednisone. Asthma is frustrating. I
dearly love animals and I pay a price (in steroids) for them. Gerbils nearly
killed me. I remember pulling an all nighter on the living room chair (when
you have asthma you can't lie back) and by the time David was up in the
morning, I couldn't measure breathing at all. I was literally blue though I
was on 80 mgs of Prednisone. We got into the truck to go to the hospital
(again) and by the time we reached the ER doors I was breathing easier.
That's how we finally figured out it was the gerbils that time. Needless to
say I avoid gerbils at all cost. Rats are okay though. Go figure.
I'm glad to hear that the Thurlos aren't the only ones crawling the floors
naked around midnight!!! <GGGG> It's nice to hear from someone else who lives
with asthma.
Aimee
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-20 15:28:15 edt
From: Burnthis1
Posted on: America Online
My son has asthma and you'd be shocked how even in today's enlightened age
many people think we're exaggerating the problem, it's all in his head, it's
all in our heads, or it's no big deal. So I can understand not wanting to
bring out the inhaler in public, since people still fail to appreciate how
serious it really can be.
shari
.
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-20 20:29:12 edt
From: MaraWayne
Posted on: America Online
I feel like I'm always seeing someone bring out an inhaler in public. This is
NYC though and we've seen it all.
Gail (Hayden)
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-20 22:48:08 edt
From: CBURNS1
Posted on: America Online
It's bizarre what sets people off isn't it? I get it worst from bleach and
paint, like house paint. I paint anyway and I use bleach occassionally but
I'm REALLY careful.
Now, on another note. I feel overwhelmed with a lack of confidence this
week. Why? Because I'm writing a book I guess. Anyway, have any of you
ever gotten halfway through a book and decided that your plot was good,
characters good, but that perhaps you were taking the wrong approach? I feel
like I need to start all over again. Just really reorganize my approach and
time line. But, I feel like I'll never finish if I keep redoing stuff. Tell
me I'm normal. Please.
And hey, have you all been reading the Sisters in Crime board and about
Fabio and the romances he's Not-Written but been paid $45k for? I feel sick
just thinking about it! Unfair sexism!!!! And really, I've met him, he's not
all THAT wonderful. He's kinda short actually.
Colleen
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-21 09:15:59 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Hi all--
After reading the ongoing discussion, I had to ask my son if anyone ever gave
him a problem with carrying his inhaler in his backpack. Since our move he's
had to use it before any athletic endeavor. Well<sigh> I find out he'd
rather suffer than use it in front of the other kids. ARRGGGH!!
My second son has what the doc called Viral-triggered asthma...he gets ANY
cold and I'm pulling out Prednisone; two inhalers or racing for our
Pulmonaide Machine (He calls it the breathing machine and runs in the
opposite direction) He's finally old enough and realizes the benefit of the
inhaler and freedon versus being attached to the machine.
Now both of them all growing and we've had to use the inhalers less and less.
Summers are usually great, then comes Labor Day and Bam!!!! Seal barking
croup; weather changes and the virus war starts again. My hope is this year
we'll make it through without the use of one inhaler (which are measure by
the gold standard from the cost of them:(((]
I feel for those of you who, as adults, need them constantly.
Aimee--prednisone is the pits and if you're one to suffer the adverse;
depressing side-effects you're on my prayer chain!
Take care,
Jean
Subj: Re:doing it wrong
Date: 96-06-21 10:05:57 edt
From: LTBerenson
Posted on: America Online
Colleen,
I can empathize with that "I'm doing it all wrong" feeling. Often, I get
midway through a book and think I must have been nuts to have started in that
direction in the first place. Now I know to plow through and finish the first
draft. If major overhauls are needed later, at least that gives me a
framework to work on. And usually, by the time I get to the end, it has all
managed to come together. (Not always, unfortunately)
Laurie
Subj: Re:doing it wrong
Date: 96-06-21 12:05:14 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Laurie,
I agree completely with your approach. With every book I've ever written,
about midway through, I get that horrible sinking feeling that I've
approached it all wrong. I've learned to force myself to just finish the
darn thing regardless -- and then I go back and see where I can fix things
up. By the time I've plugged all the holes that needed plugging, the book
starts to look better and better. I can't remember the last time I actually
tossed a ms. aside as a lost cause. (Hope I never have to do it in the
future!)
Tess
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-21 13:10:20 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Colleen, by the time I finish my last draft (5th) and send it in, I'm so sick
of the book I'm convinced it's worthy only of a trash can. And I know I'm not
the only author who does that. <gg> Just keep writing!
Aimee
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-21 13:12:42 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Jean, you're right, prednisone is the pits. The swelling, the moon face, then
the unbelievable appetite! ARGH!
But you know, you all have helped me. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one
who gets self conscious about using the inhaler (or the puffer, as my
neighbor calls it-<gg>)
Aimee
Subj: Outlines - or not
Date: 96-06-21 19:49:13 edt
From: AngBrown
Posted on: America Online
Normally I write from fairly detailed outlines but right now I am trying
something new. I am revisiting an old manuscript that I just can't let go
and have decided to rework - in this case, add a new layer. Instead of
creating an outline first I am just winging it, except I keep getting ideas
and jotting notes down and now I have a whole stack of bits and scraps that
have ideas on them. I hope I can keep track of them all and none get lost.
Do any of you do anything like this? How does it work?
Ang
Subj: Re:Outlines/sinking feelings
Date: 96-06-21 21:30:47 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
Outline? What outline? We don't need no stinking outlines!
But I do write a lot of notes to myself -- used to try cards on cork board,
but I kept organizing the stupid tacks as a way to avoid writing (g). Now I
use sticky notes, the backs of the Far Side daily calendar dates, anything
handy. The main thing is, I can throw it away as I use the idea, thereby
giving myself the instant reward of less clutter! I conside my plots fairly
complex, and it seems I'm always interrupting the writing of one to rewrite
another (I'm finished with RIDING FOR A FALL forever -- YEEEAAAA!!!!). So my
answer would be, yes, Ang, it can be done. Just be sure you run it by
someone (nice) before sending it to an agent, so you can find any
inconsistencies in advance. Have fun!
As for that mid-book certainty that it will 'never' work -- I think most
writers go through that. I, too, tend to plow through (it's happened with
every ms I've written -- currently on my 4th). But there are times when I
write myself into a corner and can't get out without sounding cliched or
desperate or whatever. I've gone back and deleted a chapter, or made major
changes in events, or even altered the entire direction of a character. I
think sometimes the feeling doesn't lie, though it usually exaggerates! :-)
Back to it now.
Lillian
Subj: Confidence
Date: 96-06-22 00:32:41 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Colleen,
WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF WRITERS. Confidence ebbs and flows like the
tide and when it's high it's sky high, when it's low, it's the sewers or
nothing. Sometimes as I'm writiing with everything figured out, a better
idea hits me and then it's rewrite city. I think we've all had that
experience. Don't let it get you down. But before you change everything,
see if there isn't someway first to work the new idea in with little change
to the whole.
Good luck with it. You'll do it.
Adrianne, who is addicted to this board and all
of you. : )
Subj: Re:asthma discussion
Date: 96-06-22 00:35:16 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Wow, all. I feel really lucky that none of my girls or dh or granddaughters
have asthema. I really feel for you all. {{{{{HUGS}}}} And use those
inhalers anytime, anywhere. The heck with anyone who thinks it's in your
heads or doesn't understand. Too bad for them. You're all too precious to
risk--especially over a little embarrassment.
Adrianne
Subj: Re:Confidence
Date: 96-06-22 09:36:20 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Boy to I feel better after reading the boards<G> I'm smack in the middle,
finally clarified the protagonist's position and realize the first half has
to be refocused to meet the last half. Here I sit teetering on the edge of
going back and refocusing now<G> so, I did ch 1 felt better and skipped back
to pg 270 to keep going. Okay, I'm sitting on the editing urge and moving
forward. Well, as far forward as summer and kids allow....took two weeks to
handle 25 pages<sigh>...terminal pms mode...such is life with kids.
Jean
Subj: Cisco's woman
Date: 96-06-22 18:22:53 edt
From: Happeth
Posted on: America Online
Aimie, I found CISCO'S WOMAN today and I purchased it. So don't send me a
copy. I do have an autographed cover of it that you gave me so I will paste
the cover on my copy somehow.
Thanks for the offer though.
Happeth
Subj: Re:Confidence
Date: 96-06-23 01:33:04 edt
From: Ardwin
Posted on: America Online
Adrianne--Thanks. I thought I was the only one who was a manic depressive
regarding my writing. It's like I have only two states: either it is going
to make me world famous or it's going to so embarrass me that I'll have to
move to a third world country.
Ferd
Subj: Re:Confidence
Date: 96-06-23 12:26:30 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Ferd, your post made me laugh! I go through exactly the SAME thing!!!!
Aimee
http://www.comet.net/writersm/thurlo/home.htm.
Subj: Bad Joke Alert
Date: 96-06-23 14:18:13 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
Have to share this joke (my mom told it to me): What do you call a man with
half a brain?
(See below)
Answer: gifted
Come on, guys, it's a joke, okay.
Subj: Re:Confidence
Date: 96-06-23 23:30:32 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Ferd,
LOL. But oh, so true. Probably for all of us and it doesn't get any
easier with each book. Don't have a solution. Just take comfort in the fact
that you are not alone. <VBG>
Adrianne, who is going to be in a major slump if she doesn't start on
the next deadline book this week. Yikes!!!!
Subj: Re:Bad Joke Alert
Date: 96-06-24 16:16:55 edt
From: FGSnyder
Posted on: America Online
This is really weird. I heard it a little differently. What do you call a
man with half a brain?
(See below)
Married.
Subj: busy writing
Date: 96-06-26 02:01:11 edt
From: Raycove
Posted on: America Online
I've been missing you all terribly. I haven't seen this board for a few
months and just got caught up. It's great to see it's still the best
informed, most friendly and warmest board in cyberspace. I FINALLY sent the
first 3 chapters of my first novel to HI after working 3 years on the f#@%ing
thing. I'm STILL working on the screenplay HBO/Warner Bros asked for...
annnnd trying to get through a huge reading list for the conference on
Mystery Writing at Oxford in August-- no I don't have time to still make good
gravy.
Why do kids need two and a half months off from school??????Cathy
Subj: Re:busy writing
Date: 96-06-26 13:36:41 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Cathy,
good luck on your HI submission!
Honestly, I don't know WHY kids need 2 1/2 months off from school, either.
Mine have been home for only three days, and I'm starting to babble. Night
before last, my teenager had 19 (as in NINETEEN!!) boys over for a
computer-party sleepover. I woke up the next morning to find chips all over
the carpet and the wood floor as tacky as glue from spilled Coke. Not to
mention bodies sleeping all over my living room. And that teenage boy smell
-- whew! Next time, I provide free deodorant.
Okay, back to writing. I think.
Tess
Subj: Re:busy writing
Date: 96-06-27 13:12:46 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
As the wife of a teacher, I'm glad hubby's home 3 months at a time! <GG> I
put him immediately to work! He runs errands, writes, helps me catch up---
he's faster than I am as a writer, you see.
Tess, your post cracked us both up. "teenage boy smells"? I love that!
Aimee
Subj: Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 13:15:36 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
I just got a really crappy review on one of my books, the first one on this
book, and it hurts like the devil. Unfortunately, it was from a self
appointed critic on the internet. How do you all cope with this? I know it
hurts all of us when it happens. My first inclination is to dive headlong
into chocolate ice cream, but I'm on a diet to loose the tonnage I put on
with steroids. Any other suggestions?
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 13:54:32 edt
From: HKlaus6073
Posted on: America Online
Aimee-if it makes you feel better I could post my review in the exact same
spots, REMEMBER,one person's opinion-Harriet
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 15:22:49 edt
From: Burnthis1
Posted on: America Online
Aimee, try Chocolate Sorbet, it's healthier. I'm trying to keep in mind the
saying about how it doesn't matter what anyone says about us so long as they
spell our name right -- I'm planning on relying on that saying as soon as I
get my first review. Good luck and hopefully only good ones will follow.
Shari
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 15:35:18 edt
From: CBURNS1
Posted on: America Online
Aimee- I finished off Cisco's Woman while my boyfriend slept off his jet
lag. It was terriffic! It moved so quickly and I thought the characters
were great! I also loved the tidbits of information about Navajo's. So,
crumple up that silly review and burn it!:) Remember, you can't please
everyone and those you can't please don't really matter;-)
Colleen
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 15:45:35 edt
From: Raycove
Posted on: America Online
I think we should all start a gound swell of saying..."If you don't have
something nice to say..." It's much easier on our sensitive writing psyche.
And God knows, we don't need an excuse not to write. But Aimee, isn't it
amazing that you didn't ponder the good reviews nearly as much as the
negative one. Funny how the mind works.
When you get a review or criticism that isn't consistant with the majority,
remember the Bob Dylan quote: A fan met Mr. Dylan backstage after a concert
and told Mr. Dylan that he loved every song he'd sung at the concert except
the last one. Mr. Dylan patiently listen to the appraisal and calmly
replied, "Maybe it wasn't meant for you." Clearly this reviewer "Didn't get
it." Soooo F*&% 'em and have a bowl of chocolate ice cream. Fondly,
Cathy
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 16:08:56 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
I second the advice to 'crumple it up and toss it." If critics could write
books, they would. Instead, they criticize the books they themselves can't
possibly write.
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 16:12:31 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
accidentally sent that post before I finished it...
I was going to say that all writers are sensitive souls. We all feel
personally hurt by bad reviews. My agent told me that the typical writer
will read a pretty good review, and focus completely on the one negative
comment in the whole thing -- that's just how we are.
Chocolate, Aimee -- that's the ticket!
Tess
Subj: Re:busy writing
Date: 96-06-27 16:39:50 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Cathy--
Congrats on getting off your work!!! Good luck with HBO and every summer I
ask the same thing, especially when my boys whine "I'm bored!"
Jean
Subj: Re:busy writing
Date: 96-06-27 16:42:41 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Tess--
Maybe you should give me a list of what to look forward to. I had four kids
over recently - one boy; three girls. The girls now want my son to come to
their house..hmmmm. (I was babysitting in a trade of kids<G>)
Jean
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 16:45:58 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Aimee---
I'm so sorry about the bad review. I only have rejection letters to
consider, so, for what's it's worth.... I remember my very first major
trashing (received two at one time from critiquers). I was so mad I could
have chewed up all 450pgs. My dh was so considerate...he said "Jean, consider
it one opinion, toss it out and move on." At the time it was easy for him to
say, it was my baby, but it did help me develop that thick skin.
Hugs {{ }}}
Jean
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 16:48:33 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Oh, yeah, I forgot-- My vote is for Rocky Road while sitting on the back deck
soaking up sunshine!<G>
Jean
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:30:17 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Oh Harriet! I'd really, really appreciate it if you would!!!!! It came out on
DorothyL and it really, really smarted!!!! If you'd post your review there,
it would mean a lot to both David and me!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:31:35 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Colleen and Harriet, thank you both so very much!!!! I really appreciate the
support and your kind words. I'm an old pro, and that review shouldn't have
hurt, but danged if it didn't!!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:36:19 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Cathy, you know, my agent said the same thing. I have great reviews in my
file yet I get one bad one and I'm ready to stick my head in the oven. I
really can't tell you why it hurt, possibly because the things he said
weren't true and he gave away the ending, which I considered the height of
foul play, if you all will forgive the pun.
Anyway, you all are terrific. I really appreciate the kind words, and Cathy,
your post absolutely cracked me up!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:43:09 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Thanks so much, Tess. You know, it's really crazy. I got some great reviews
but this jerk trashes the book and I was really really down. But I guess it's
because it was on a Listserv that I enjoy and I'd been looking for someone to
finally say something about the book.
Oh well. I'll live, but it's nice to know I have friends.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:45:03 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Thanks, Jean. My poor co-author husband didn't see me today. I sequestered
myself in the office and pouted. My diet went south, but I did enjoy that
wonderful chocolate ice cream!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:52:04 edt
From: JKenn10050
Posted on: America Online
Hey, Aimee -- it's only ONE person's opinion. Put that one person up against
all of your followers who purchase your books and enjoy them, and you have an
equation that really is insignificant. We all need someone to dislike us for
one reason or another now and then to give us a jolt to keep up our
awareness. I used to be a professional classical singer, and the roughest
thing for me to do was participate in music festival where ONE MAN's opinion
counted. One year one man hated everything I did - no matter what "class" I
entered. The other three years I excelled and finished in every one of them
at the very top. That one year devastated me, but you can believe I really
fworked hard to succeed the next year. It's good for us. It just doesn't
have to be true!!!!!! Jo
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 18:56:33 edt
From: JKenn10050
Posted on: America Online
Hmmm. freudian slip maybe? I meant to say I really "worked" hard to
excell!!!!
By the way I finished "Cisco's Woman," and thoroughly enjoyed it. NOW I'm
searching everywhere for more of your books!!!!! Jo
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 19:27:34 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
Hi Aimee -- I read DL pretty faithfully (if not very thoroughly) and totally
missed the bad review. I'd say the most crutial word was 'self-appointed'.
Who asked him (her?) anyway?
Lillian
Subj: Format
Date: 96-06-27 20:12:34 edt
From: AngBrown
Posted on: America Online
I need some advice about a format issue. In the project I'm working on now,
I decided to divide the novel into 3 "books". What I'm wondering is, do I
start numbering my chapters at 1 in each book, or just number them
consecutively(sp?) from front to back? I'd appreciate any and all thoughts
on the matter.
Also, I wanted to mention a great way to buy books that I recently
discovered, since many of you have mentioned searching for a book and not
being able to find it. It is an on-line bookstore at http://www.amazon.com/.
They have a really great searching device, and you can pay by check or by
calling them once you place the order on-line to give them your credit card
number (in case your worried about online security). Then they give you a
password, so the next time you order, you just give the password and they use
the same credit card number from the files. Also, they have a place where
authors can post info about themselves, and where people can post reviews of
the books. You can search books by author, or subject, or key word, so you
don't have to know exactly what you are looking for, like you do in an actual
bookstore, and you don't miss out. I think it's great. Oh, also, everything
is discounted.
Angela
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 20:54:24 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Thanks Jo, for your kind words about Cisco's Woman, and for the advice.
You're right, it does make you want to try harder when someone bashes you!
But you know, I think singing would be even rougher than writing. You're
right there in the public eye, not just your product, but YOU. My hat's off
to you, lady!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-27 20:59:43 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Thanks Lillian. I'm glad you missed the review. It was an unfair one,
believe me. David and I decided to answer one of the points that was
particularly disagreeable and false. We've never argued with a review, not
publicly, but we felt that fair's fair and we had to defend it against an
unjust accusation.
With an author, it's their ability to make a living that's being assaulted.
When it's a fair criticism, well you just have to accept it. But when it's
waaay off the mark, well, then you have to defend your position as best you
can. Can you tell I don't make a good sacrificial lamb? <gg>
Aimee
Subj: Re:Format
Date: 96-06-27 21:02:20 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Angela, each of your books should start on chapter one or a prologue. Hey,
and thanks for the tip about the new bookstore. I didn't even know it was out
there. Maybe I should get my order in for HARVEST early. I have a feeling
it's going to go fast.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 01:05:49 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
I just got a really low review too, and what the reviewer said about the
book makes absolutely no sense. {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}} But dont go for
chocolate if you're having a weight fight. Just realize that not everyone is
going to like everyone of your books and then put it into perspective.
You've had all kinds of great reviews and raves and raves about the book.
Don't let one person with bad taste ruin that.
Adrianne, who knows her mystery deserves a higher score than
the reviewer gave and is glad that the reviewer didn't have more room to
expand on her bad opinion of a book that my daughter, my critique group, and
my editor think is the best yet. <G>
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 01:07:23 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Aimee, as to Colleen's suggestion, I'm sending you some cyber matches. <G>
Adrianne Lee
Subj: Re:busy writing
Date: 96-06-28 01:12:30 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Jean, Cathy, & Tess,
I'm so glad I don't have kids off for the summer or any other time of the
year any more. Age does have some advantages. But my sympathies do go out
to you all. Been there, done that.
Adrianne, who is writing to you all from her new laptop, upon
which she is going to start her deadline book tomorrow. Yeah. I'm running
out of time fast. Just got moved, haven't finished getting any one room done
in the new house yet. Yuck. So much to do, so little time in a day. <G>
Subj:
Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 01:25:05 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
At least yours was in an area you could defend. What do you do with
a review that says, "there's no basis for the relationship?" in a magazine
lots of people consult before buying? And explain to me what isn't a basis
for a relationship between a man and a woman who have come together because
of the heroine's ill sister, and have grown closer for the past year, the
heroine having a horrid marriage and a husband who is fooling around on her.
She has turned to this kind, sweet man whom she has fallen in love with over
the last year and that's not a basis for a relationship??????? I am trying
to understand this review and really dreading what others will say. This is
my livelihood and I can't believe that a reviewer can do such damage and hurt
us so. But that is part of this business and I don't know what we can do but
grin and bear it. And pray that loyal readers will be lining up to read the
book and will completely disagree with the reviewer and recommend the book to
others.
Adrianne, who thinks you're darned lucky to have someone as loyal as
Harriet on your side, too. Go get 'em, ladies.
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 01:38:17 edt
From: CBURNS1
Posted on: America Online
I just want to be clear about one thing. I have never at anytime in my life
bought a book after reading a review on it. Frankly, I don't read book
reviews.(or any reviews for that matter) I read the back of the book and
check for authors my friends have recommended. Ok, sometimes I buy for the
cover shameful as I know that is! Working in theater/entertainment has taught
me one very valuable lesson. Very few critics know anything about the field
they are critiquing (sp?) Usually they were just the person assigned by the
paper or magazine or whatever to do the job because 1)they can't do anything
else, 2) no one else was available, or 3) they are low man on the totem pole.
It's virtually never someone trained or experienced in the field. Try to
remember that. And remember remember remember it's all subjective in art.
Frankly, there are some very famous authors that I've never enjoyed. That
doesn't mean they are bad writers. They just aren't to my taste. Perhaps the
bad reviews Adrianne and Aimee got simply came from people that don't
appreciate their particular styles or genres. Of course, in that case they
shouldn't be reviewing the books, but hey, who am I to say? Any way, take a
bubble bath, smoke a cigar (not you Aimee), drink a bottle of champagne,
whatever makes you feel good, and remember that plenty of people LOVE your
work....like your editors!
Colleen
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 09:02:06 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Colleen,
you raise an interesting question for me: Have I ever bought a book based
on a review? I don't think I ever have. I blush to admit it, but COVERS
attract me. And back-cover blurbs. And whether or not I've ever read the
author before. I just don't recall having been affected by reviews. (I also
recall having read a book first, and then the review, and wondering: did the
reviewer and I read the same book?)
So Aimee and Adrianne -- don't worry about it! (And I'll try not to rant
and whine too much when PW comes out with its review of HARVEST in the next
week or so...)
Tess
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 10:36:35 edt
From: FGSnyder
Posted on: America Online
Aimee -- It's tough when someone says untrue things about your work. This
is true whether it's a reviewer trashing a book or a movie or a restaurant,
or a client complaining about a doctor or lawyer, or a customer bad-mouthing
the service a grocery store. Sometimes we know the critic is wrong. A
friend of mine owns a very large and extremely popular restaurant. The
restaurant is his whole life and his whole life savings, as well. He
averages two dozen seriously disgruntled customers and two false claims of
food poisoning a week. After twenty years he's come to terms with this. He
told me, "We're in the business of disappointing someone every day." He
tries to please 99 percent of the people and figures the rest are beyond
redemption.
Remember that few people will recall exactly what a book review said. But
when they see the book on the shelf they DO recall that they've heard of it
before . . . .
-- Frank (who also recommends chocolate, but believes that chocolate without
the cocoa butter
is like Cisco without his Woman)
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 11:19:23 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Adrienne if we lived closer I'd suggest we get together for a diet coke.
sigh. Believe me, I do know how much one lousy review can hurt. I'm sorry
that you're in the same boat, though. I know we're both pros but jeez, it's
like Tess said. Fourteen people will tell you you're wonderful, but when the
fifteenth tells you you can't write THAT one you remember!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 11:28:46 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Adrienne, you're abolutely right. Harriet is one helluva lady.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 11:30:05 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
<<smoke a cigar--not you Aimee>>
ROFL!!!!!!!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 11:34:29 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Frank, you're wonderful. Thanks for you post! I like your restauranteur's
philosophy. Sounds like a good way to stay sane.
Tess-- you're going to get glowing praise from PW. Don't worry. I've read
your books, lady, and you're a fine writer.
And if they say something snarky, you've got a crowd of friends here who'll
be in your corner and help you undo whatever damage that creates.
Now about your book--is it a series?
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 13:05:06 edt
From: Burnthis1
Posted on: America Online
Aimee, I agree with Frank. I read book reviews to get an idea of what's out
there -- what kind of book, what kind of writer -- not what one person
thought about it, since tastes are individual.
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 13:34:38 edt
From: HKlaus6073
Posted on: America Online
Consider it done. I will post it today and it should appear tomorrow. By the
way since there's
a year between books who is going to remember littlt stuff. Soo, he blames
the book when a reference is made to a former book. Believeme, your books are
stand alones. I have read enough to know the difference
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 14:36:57 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
no, afraid HARVEST isn't part of a series but is a stand-alone. I toyed
with the idea of having one of the characters make a re-appearance in my
second book, but I was advised that because screen rights had been sold (and
they bought the rights to the CHARACTERS as well) that I would have
difficulty selling screen rights for the second book if the characters were
already tied up with another producer. Too bad, because I LOVED my cop in
the first book. My balding, middle-aged, quietly brilliant cop. (Oh, but
you already know I like bald men!)
Tess
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 16:17:21 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Harriet, you're a terrific lady. Thanks so very much!
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 16:18:28 edt
From: B Pomidor
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
I totally missed the initial review on DL, but I caught your response this
morning. I was very impressed that you had the guts to respond to it, to
overcome that natural inclination of ours to stick to "propriety." I've
wanted to argue with reviews on DL on occasion, but haven't. Perhaps someday
I will.
Right now, I'm making enough of a nuisance of myself there that I don't
want to attract any more trouble!
But for what it's worth, I know exactly what you mean about DL. The
unsolicited book reviews people write there are then splashed all over the
Internet as though they were gospel (many make it into rec.arts.books and
elsewhere), and half the time, the "reviewers" haven't put more than a
minute's thought into writing something that will ruin a writer's week. I
got trashed on DL by somebody who had only read the first five chapters of my
book (although a lot of other people liked it--you DO remember the trashy
review better). I sometimes think those people feel OBLIGED to say something
nasty, to show their high intellectual ability, or some such thing.
Joan Hess, after being trashed there lately, posted a plea for a 1-800
help line for battered authors. My response was posted today--here's a piece
of it:
"Until we get this 800 number going, pick up a copy of ROTTEN REVIEWS,
edited by Bill Henderson and published by PENGUIN BOOKS. A few tidbits:
---Emily Dickinson: "An eccentric, dreamy, half-educated recluse in an
out-of-the-way New England village…cannot with impunity set at defiance the
laws of gravitation and grammar…Oblivion lingers in the immediate
neighborhood." (Thomas Bailey Aldridge, ATLANTIC MONTHLY, 1892).
---William Shakespeare (Hamlet): "It is a vulgar and barbarous drama…One
would imagine this piece to be the work of a drunken savage." (Voltaire,
1768)
---Walt Whitman (Leaves of Grass): "No, no, this kind of thing won’t do…The
good folks down below (I mean posterity) will have none of it." (James
Russell Lowell)
And finally, Kurt Vonnegut had this to say about critics: "I have long
felt that any reviewer who expresses rage and loathing for a novel is
preposterous. He or she is like a person who has just put on full armor and
attacked a hot fudge sundae or a banana split."
Pick up a copy of ROTTEN REVIEWS today! I highly recommend it! An
outstanding work—witty, incisive, and thoughtful. Henderson has done a fine
job and produced a masterpiece!"
Hang in there--we all get trashed occasionally, even my buddy Bill
Shakespeare, and Emily and Walt.
~~Bill Pomidor
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 16:18:50 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
David told me to tell you he loves you. (he's going bald, ya see...) <GGGGGG>
At this rate, I may go bald too. But what the heck. I like wigs.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 17:25:20 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
I'm so glad I found this board! Yes, I've been here awhile but sometimes you
guys say the most thought-provoking things! Got me thinking
(thought-provoking things sometimes have that effect) -- I know I've bought
books because of good reviews, but I don't remember ever not buying one
because of a bad review, or a bad cover, though lame cover blurbs definitely
turn me off.
Just got my cover. First book, mind you, so this is one of those Moments To
Remember in Life. Love the art work, it's a very appealing cover (though has
very little to do with the story, it's at least in the same vein). I keep
staring at it, great graphics, is that really MY name on there? And I ask
myself, once the art work persuaded me to pick the book up, would this blurb
make me buy it? For the price, I think I would. I hope lots of other people
do, too...
Now I can't wait to hold the actual book in my hand!
Lillian
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 19:12:15 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
LILLIAN-- CONGRATS, LADY!!!
BILL P--- I absolutely loved your post. I must say that having people like
you give me a pat on the back has really helped. Many thanks for your post! I
appreciate the thoughts.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 19:44:34 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Lillian,
WHAT? You're not going to describe your cover for us? C'mon. We all want
to hear it.
Tess
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 19:52:42 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Okay,
forgive my ignorance, and maybe I don't really want to know this, but
where exactly are these reviews posted? What's DL? Maybe I missed the
information earlier...
Tess
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 20:03:54 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Aimee--
Here's what I suggest _you_ do, (though keep in mind I couldn't do it with my
own work, so you'll just have to be a stronger person than me <VBG>)
Blow it off. What's that old saying? I don't care if they talk good about
me or if they talk bad about me, as long as they talk about me. (I'm sure
that's paraphrased from something.)
~~~Sherry, always ready to dispense words of wisdom for others, but who
crumples when it's her own crisis.
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 20:06:40 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
someone once told me that we focus more on negative messages than positive
because from our earliest recollection, negative messages are what we hear.
"No." "Don't touch." "Don't drop it." "Don't fall." no wonder we grow up
listening for negative input.
~Sherry
Subj: Re:Reviews/Harriet
Date: 96-06-28 20:08:39 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Harriet~
You get my vote for "reviewer of the month."
~Sherry
Subj: Pouting
Date: 96-06-28 20:10:58 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Aimee~~
When you gotta pout, you gotta pout. Give into it, big time. By tomorrow
you'll feel better. Don't try to tell yourself you "should" feel this or
"shouldn't" feel that. It's what you're feeling, dangit, so _feel_ it and
then move on. Wallow for 24 hours. roll in self-pity. It won't last, no
matter how hard you try to make it.
~~Sherry
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 20:17:18 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Adrianne~
For heaven's sake, you _know_ sex is the only basis for a relationship. What
on earth are you thinking?
I'm kidding here, folks. See? <VBG> <VVBG>
~Sherry
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 20:25:50 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
I do read reviews, but they don't make the difference in my decision to buy a
book. Mostly, I read to find out about a book I may not have noticed before
or one that isn't in my area but I might want to order.
Or I read to make sure the reviewer has thoroughly appreciated an friend or
acquaintance's efforts. No matter what the book, the author has had
something specific in mind s/he is trying to put across, or some way s/he is
stretching his/her talent. I like to read reviews by reviewers who recognize
those sorts of things, even if they don't think the author pulled it off as
well as s/he could have.
But I'm afraid I don't like hearing general negative comments about reviewers
any more than I like hearing general negative comments about cozies or
grizzlies or romances. One thing I can (and will) say about Harriet's
reviews, she knows the genres she reviews, and I've never read a review by
her that's left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Ever.
~Sherry
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 20:27:50 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Bill~
Good for you. As a very recent subscribee to DL, I shall look forward with
interest to reading your response.
~Sherry
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 20:28:50 edt
From: SLBWrites
Posted on: America Online
Aw, Lillian~
Yes, that first cover is a Great Moment In Life. I'm kinda goose-bumpy for
you.
~Sherry
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 21:20:52 edt
From: JKenn10050
Posted on: America Online
SLBWrites -- and all of us bandying about the reviews thing -- you reminded
me of something my vocal coach said to me once -- there's nothing more
positive than the negative . Sometimes people will actually go and see a
movie, or buy a book just because it was slammed. And 99% of the time they
come away satisfied, and wondering if the reviewer had a fish bone stuck in
his/her craw.
Subj: Bookcover
Date: 96-06-28 23:39:33 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Oh, Lillian,
You made my heart beat a little faster--just remembering holding that
first book cover. It is such a thrill and you know what? I'm just a
thrilled holding the fifth book cover. And staring at it. Been staring at
and loving the cover of MIDNIGHT COWBOY since last November and the book has
come and gone. Now I'll still be staring at EDEN'S BABY and waiting for the
books to come and opening that box with tremulous hands and seeing for the
first time that book that bears my name and contains between this cover the
story that I wrote. Oh, there is such an upside to this business. I envy
you that thrill of holding that first book. It is incredible and I wish all
of the unpubs on this board are soon published and experiencing this thrill.
Adrianne, who is so glad there are such nice writers as all of
you.
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 23:43:39 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
Diet cokes it is. If not soon, then one day. I'm sure we'll survive this
and you'll do better than me because you have lots of great reviews on your
side--and Harriet believes your books stand alone. You can't buy that kind
of praise and Harriet is a reviewer who is highly respected.
Bill, I love your advice.
Frank, LOL on the similie about Cisco without his woman. Guess I can say
Eden without her baby???
Adrianne, who is keeping her chin up and moving on to the next
book.
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 23:45:54 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Tess,
I only heard about this DL thing last weekend at the Mystery Writer's Fan
night. It's Dorothy L(something or other) Guess I didn't pay enough
attention. Help me out Aimee, Bill, Frank???? Someone.
Adrianne, Floundering in the memory dept
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-28 23:51:58 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Sherry,
Since the story starts with a full love scene, maybe that was the
problem?????
Why won't I quit trying to figure it out?? Darn. It's not from lack of
great advice.
Hey, I have to admit, I've bought books by their covers. Back
blurbs too. Come to think of it, I've bought books that got bad reviews
because I wanted to see if I agreed with the reviewer. Geesh. I can't seem
to even take my own advice. <G>
Tess, no one, especially PW, is going to give HARVEST a bad review.
You can breathe easy there. I haven't read an ARC, but I have some big name
author friends who have read it and they along with everyone else had nothing
but praise for you and the book. Even in strictest confidential privateness.
So, don't worry, lady. You've got a winner.
Adrianne
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 00:51:58 edt
From: HKlaus6073
Posted on: America Online
Aimee-it is posted on today's list,right before someone else's vehement
response ti Steve's post. IT couldn't have worked out better if it was
planned.Want to bet there is going to be more on this topic before it flames
itself out. Bill's post was hilarious,very tounge in cheek, but he comrs
across as a gret defender of those who don"t think before they post.
Hopefully Steve will think twice before he does it again!
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 10:05:45 edt
From: AHDN64
Posted on: America Online
Aimee-
In the middle of DEATHWALKER as we speak. Great book and I read many
mysteries.
About reviews:
Remember what was said about a Fred Astaire audition: Skinny, baldying, can't
sing. . .dances a little.
And the Beatles were a flash in the pan. . .
. . .and on and on and on. . .
You should try to market your books on the eastcoast. I see that most of your
signings have been the west. The NA theme is big out here.
Keep up the great writing.
Mitzi
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 11:32:04 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Harriet, I saw your review, THANK YOU!!! And I saw the other post, too. What
a nice thing for someone in law enforcement to say about our books!!!! That
blew me away.I didn't expect anyone to come to our defense but I guess I
underestimated the loyalty of some readers and some very special reviewers,
like you. The bad review hurt, but this outpouring on our behalf has really
turned things around. Instead of depressed, I'm grateful now ,for readers,
for friends, for all the wonderful things that happened as a result of that
miserable review.
Tess, DL is the DorothyL listserve, a place for readers, writers of mystery
fiction. It's a great place to tell others about your work. If you want, let
me know, and I'll look up the way to get subscribed to it. It's here in my
office somewhere, I'm sure. Once you're on the list you get all the posts
once a day.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 11:40:54 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Mitzi, thanks so very much for saying nice things about DEATH WALKER. Next
year, we'll be doing our first signing in New York. I'm petrified, and it's
11 months away! <ggg> But the editor asked me if I'd be willing if the house
set something up. I said yes, so it looks like we'll be doing a signing. <gg>
Bill P- your post on Dorothy L was interesting. Yes, perhaps we flouted
convention by replying to a review, but if he's got a right to trash our book
on line with unfair comments, then we have an equal right to defend it. It's
our livelihood that he's jeopardizing. And our response gave others, like
you, a chance to come out in defense of their own work. All in all I see good
things coming out of this. I hated to get that negative review, but maybe the
end result will be a blessing to all.
Aimee
Subj: Re:DorothyL
Date: 96-06-29 12:22:23 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
Tess, and/or anyone else who wantes the info:
DL (DorothyL) is an on-line newsletter dealing with topics pertaining to the
Mystery. It can be accessed in several ways, but subscription is the only
one I understand. It's free, and anyone can subscribe and/or post -- which
goes a long way toward explaining the questionable taste of certain
individuals... (nose in air).
To get yours, I think you send e-mail to: listserv@listserv.kent.edu. In
Topic, write: subscribe
The message you send is: Subscribe DorothyL YOUR NAME (not screen name)
@listserv.kent.edu
If that's not quite accurate it will get you started. It took me several
tries, partly because they had changed the address about the time I tried,
but also because I kept getting the msg not quite right. This is read by
computer, so must be exact.
The list of posts is sent almost daily. Many are irrelevant to my interests
so I scroll past them, otherwise I'd never have time to read anything else!
But a lot of interesting and funny stuff can be found there, along with some
porrly-thought-out (but also some very inciteful)(sic) reviews!
Lillian
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 12:54:25 edt
From: MaraWayne
Posted on: America Online
Aimee,
Yeah, the only problem with DL is that you get the posts once a day, every
day. They are long.... and people do go on so.
Gail (Hayden) who can't keep up with all the digests
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 15:29:48 edt
From: Ardwin
Posted on: America Online
Lillian--Great to hear it. You truly must be walking on clouds. The cover
for your first book. For those of us with short-term memory problems, please
remind us of the title of the book and when it'll hit the stores. Also, have
you lined up any book signings here in Southern California? Again,
congratulations. Enjoy the moment and remember it as you slog through your
next book.
Ferd
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 15:33:47 edt
From: Ardwin
Posted on: America Online
Sherri--Reviews do influence me. I've bought many books based on a glowing
review that made me salivate for a book. But I don't recall ever having not
bought a book because of a negative review.
Ferd
Subj: Re:DorothyL
Date: 96-06-29 21:35:14 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Thanks, Lillian and Aimee, for the information on DL. Sounds interesting,
but I don't know if I can handle all the extra mail! (Or having to read
nasty readers' comments.) In some cases, ignorance is bliss.
Tess
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 21:38:11 edt
From: Jogerrit
Posted on: America Online
Adrianne,
thanks for the reassurance! Am holding my breath about this coming issue
of PW. Since I don't get my issue till mid-week, I've made my agent promise
and swear that she'll call me on Monday, even if the review is EVIL.
Tess
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-29 23:57:11 edt
From: LSTRATER
Posted on: America Online
Aimee -
Just wanted to send a note to let you and David know that I read Cisco's
Woman and loved it. Laurel is a wonderful heroine who's physical limitations
in no way impede her mental strength. She's great! And Cisco! I drooled!
Adrienne -
Like everyone else, I don't let a negative review stop me from reading a
book. If an author I enjoy has a new book out, I buy it. And I'll be lining
up to buy yours, soon.
And, Tess, let me know when Harvest hits the stands. I don't want to miss
out on that one, either!
Laura
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-30 04:21:36 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Tess,
LOL about the evil review. AS IF!!!
Adrianne
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-30 04:23:59 edt
From: AdriannLee
Posted on: America Online
Laura,
Bless your heart. You really made me feel better and believe me, I could
use some feeling better about my writing just now. Darned reviews shouldn't
hurt, but they can.
Adrianne Lee, EDEN'S BABY, Intrigue # 383 July/Aug 96
How's that for blatant self-promotion??? <GGGG>
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-30 13:40:19 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Laura, thanks so very much for your very nice words on CISCO'S WOMAN! It was
so hard to distance myself from that book sometimes because when Laurel
couldn't breathe, neither could I and vice versa! <GGG> But I really did put
my heart into that.
Aimee
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-30 17:19:34 edt
From: AAuthor
Posted on: America Online
Tess, when does HARVEST hit the stands?
Aimee
Subj: Re:Cover
Date: 96-06-30 17:21:21 edt
From: ANDIDVM
Posted on: America Online
In answer to Ferd's kind question, the book is called RIDING FOR A FALL, and
will be published by Fawcett in pb this Nov, which means it will be in the
stores (or not) in October (don't ask me!) and probably gone by Christmas.
Though I must say Ballantine and its subs seem to get better distribution for
its lesser-known (to put it nicely) writers than some other publishers.
Thanks for asking! Just look for the cool cover, with the barn and the palm
tree and the dark blue background!
Lillian
Subj: Re:Reviews
Date: 96-06-30 18:46:08 edt
From: JMW519
Posted on: America Online
Hi all---
Stay gone for a few days and wow! Y'all sure got windy<G>
Reviews-- Usually don't read them because I like to form my own opinions.
Also usually what I like, reviewers tend to trash...hmmmm
Lillian-- Oh, congrats on the first bookcover!!!! Can't wait to experience
it, too<G>
Jean
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