Writing Basics Chat 06/26/02
TOPIC: Editing Exercise
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HOST WRTR TRICIA: WELCOME TO WRITING BASICS
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Tonight we will play around with editing.... there are so
many areas of editing that
HOST WRTR TRICIA: we will only be skimming the surface.... but here is a
parqagraph for you to make clearer.... remove verbosity, etc...:
Sryope2: okay, make it good! ;-)
Jackatbrun: adverbosity or adjectosity, maybe. Verbs are good.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: FIRE REPORT: Heavy rains throughout most of the State have
given an optimistic outlook for lessened fire danger for ther rest of the
season. However, an abundance of lightning maintains a certaiin amount of
hazard in isolated
HOST WRTR TRICIA: areas that have not received an excessive amount of rain.
We were pleased to have been able to help Nevada with the suppression of
their conflagration.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: (GA)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: (sorry about the typos.... am trying to type tto fast)
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (yay! Someone opened the door for Linda!)
Jackatbrun: Rains lessened the fire danger for the rest of the season.
Lightening remains a hazard in dry areas. Nevada is safe from conflagration.
Sryope2: Throughout most of the US, heavy rains are decreasing the chance of
forest fires. Yet, lightning still is a hazard in areas of drought. We are
pleased to have helped Nevada during this trying period.
Sryope2: hi linda!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Hi Linda!!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Hey LM!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Those are both good!!
HOST WRTR Linda: Hi
HOST WRTR Linda: It took me a while to find the computer, I had an eye exam
and they used
HOST WRTR TRICIA: DROPS
JeanM MD: Heavy rains over most of Nevada will lessen the danger from fires
for the rest of this season. However, dry areas are still at risk from
lightning.
HOST WRTR Linda: those drops that dilate..but then you can't see at all.
HOST WRTR Linda: yup
Jackatbrun: Hey, Len, welcome and well met.
StoryLen: merry meet, Jack O
StoryLen: I can't even SAY "syrope"
Sryope2: hey Old!
Jackatbrun: Jean, well done and considered. But i never begin a sentence
with "however."
HOST WRTR Linda: lol
StoryLen: sigh-rope?
Sryope2: yes you can, it's sree -- ohp
Sryope2: lol
StoryLen: Nevertheless, Jack, it's done.
Jackatbrun: Syrup, very sweet, 100% maple.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: That is good too! Jean!!.. Jean's version was the closest
to maintaining the meaning of the original, however.
Sryope2: oh, is Jack calling me sweet?
JeanM MD: I know I'm not supposed to, but what the heck... :)
Sryope2: why aren't you supposed to?
JeanM MD: I don't know... Not supposed to start with 'and" or "but" either,
but I do.
Sryope2: Len, call me Sry -- all my friends do
HOST WRTR TRICIA: For instance, Jack, it does not indicate that Nevada is
safe from conflagrration....
HOST WRTR TRICIA: or fire for that matter!
StoryLen: ok sry
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Welcome Len!
StoryLen: hi trish
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I see that while I had my head down a couple of other
visitors came and went!
Jackatbrun: Len, Trish tries to make us write better, even though some of us
are drunk and should be abed.
StoryLen: and the lesson is...?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Here is another one..not as long this time.....
HOST WRTR Linda: rotflol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Len, we are talking about editing... and sheesh Jack,
drunk?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: congrratulations! And may your hangover be a small one.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (And I just have a cold...)
Sryope2: See that's why he's sweet talking me tonight
HOST WRTR Linda: Some days are like that, Tricia
Sryope2: calling me syrup
Jackatbrun: <--trying to stop smoking and booze helps
Sryope2: ;-)
HOST WRTR Linda: oh, jeez
StoryLen: Jacke <hic!> thash okay, I kin rite az good drunk (an im' not
druk) az any 10 writers sobre
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL Jack!
Sryope2: So do nicotine patches and Zyban
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Is that sort of like jumping from the fire into the frying
pan?
HOST WRTR Linda: Now I have heard them all
Jackatbrun: LOL, Len
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I never tried that one Jack.
Sryope2: jack wants to be Hemingway
Jackatbrun: Linda, hey, we writers be a creative bunch
Sryope2: okay, Tricia, hit us again
Jackatbrun: Trish, not this sloshed.
StoryLen: I want to jump from the waffle iron into the lobster pot
JeanM MD: Wait! Don't hit... use a whip.
Sryope2: yikes
HOST WRTR Linda: Yup, and you are especially creative with that one.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: this one was from the fovernment...OSHA egress standard
StoryLen: or from the microwave into the double-boiler.
StoryLen: no wait....
Sryope2: foverment?
Jackatbrun: Not waiting.
Sryope2: should we edit your lines?
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :-)
Sryope2: <------ OHSA expert for real
Jackatbrun: my wrist hurts
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "Ways of exit access and the doors to exits to which they
lead shall be so designed and arranged as to be clearly recognizable as
such."
StoryLen: AH SO expert, for real.
HOST WRTR Linda: ergonomic this U?
Sryope2: yes, that's the way they write it! lol
Jackatbrun: Exit signs will be posted.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry... please don't, I am trying to type above my
peter-principle level of speed
JeanM MD: All doors shall be marked by "Exit" signs.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yeow! That original hurts my eyes!
Sryope2: Exits and Exits doors must be clearly marked.
HOST WRTR Linda: Yay Jean!
JeanM MD: I think Sry's is the best: Exits must be clearly marked.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: OSHA's second try was: An exit must be free of signs or
decorations that obscure its visibility.
Jackatbrun: Exit signs will be obvious.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL!
StoryLen: Exits shall be marked as doors, and the Doors shall exit, stage
right, but not until they've finished three encores, and the crowd is
sloshed.
JeanM MD: Don't cover the doors.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: All exits will be unmarked.
Jackatbrun: Len, by golly, I think you've GOT it.
StoryLen: unless the mosh pit be mashed
HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, knowing how OSHA inapwxirona go, they would cite you
for ambiguity. Sort of like the "don't use a blow dryer in the shower"
labels on hair dryers.
Sryope2: Did anyone hear how Barnum got people to leave his museum? He said
-- This way to see the egress
Sryope2: an egress is the exit door
HOST WRTR Linda: (inspections, inspections)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I love that one Sry!!!
Sryope2: they'd go through it and be outside the building
HOST WRTR TRICIA: LOL
StoryLen: to hell with the egress; I want to see the egre!
StoryLen: Especially the albino Asian Egre
HOST WRTR Linda: You will regret that Len.
Sryope2: hey, at least I gave a definition! what's an Egre?
StoryLen: found only in certain valleys in the foothills of the himalyas in
kashmir
StoryLen: an Egre is a male Egress.
Jackatbrun: Len, but those Egres are bin Laden terrorists.
Sryope2: and is what? human, animal, vegetable?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :-)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: On to meaningless words.... can you edit these phrases and
make them shorter and less convoluted? Here goes....
HOST WRTR Linda: uh, maile egress?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "is prepared to inform you"
Jackatbrun: Linda, you should have another drink.
StoryLen: JAck, then OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "is not in a position to"
HOST WRTR Linda: Jack I do believe you are right!
Sryope2: We'd like you to know
Jackatbrun: Linda*
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "will take steps"
Sryope2: can't
Jackatbrun: Know this, idiot.
Sryope2: will sue
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "does not see his way to"
Sryope2: is unable
StoryLen: is clueless
Sryope2: or won't
HOST WRTR Linda: hahahahaha
Sryope2: has no money
HOST WRTR Linda: lol
JeanM MD: Is prepared to inform you : will tell you
JeanM MD: is not in a position to: can't
HOST WRTR TRICIA: here is a mouthfull..... "to cause an investigation to be
made with a view to ascertaining"
JeanM MD: will take steps : will
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Right!!! All of you are doing well at this!!!!
Sryope2: Will look into
JeanM MD: does not see his way to: can't see to
Jackatbrun: Trish, I'm not. I don't understand that language.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: that's okay, Jack... it is airhead action!
JeanM MD: to cause an investigation.... : will investigate
HOST WRTR Linda: doesn not see his way to: won't
Sryope2: Will investigate
Jackatbrun: We will pursue you to death's door.
HOST WRTR Linda: yup, I think Jack has the intent of that one nailed.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: A great many of these phrases come from reporters without
imaginations who are trying to make themselves sound smart
Sryope2: yes
StoryLen: G&S: "If this young man expresses himself in words too deep for
me....
StoryLen: "Then what a very singularly deep young man this deep young man
must be!"
Jackatbrun: ...words too deep for tears.
Sryope2: HMS??
StoryLen: Iolanthe, I think
HOST WRTR TRICIA: On the other hand I read a pretty good cliche turnaround
the other day..... He was pacing up and down like an expectant father on hot
bricks.
Sryope2: <------- yum yum
Jackatbrun: <Len, psst. I get REALLY paranoid when there are as many "HOSTS"
in a room as other participants. Really glad you're here.
Sryope2: lol
Sryope2: hi Sum
MSum865048: Hi, Sry
Sryope2: first time I've seen you outside of trivia
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, we can always take the uniforms off Jack.
Sryope2: hey, I'm stripped bare
MSum865048: True, Sry
HOST WRTR TRICIA: We have to take these off anyway soon.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: But we'll still chase you around the room... ;-)
Sryope2: Jean are you a hostie too
Sryope2: lol
StoryLen: This room has the most hosts with the mostest hostest toast test
ghost
JeanM MD: I was, several years ago
MSum865048: Len***
Jackatbrun: Spkld1, don't you dare. It's your last night here.
StoryLen: Margie**
JeanM MD: for another area
MSum865048: Are we editing tonight?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yea we are...
MSum865048: I stand with blue pencil at the ready....
Sryope2: actually, I have to give up my host name. :-(
MSum865048: fire at will....
Sryope2: so now I'm the host formerly known as Muse.
Jackatbrun: Summie, we're giving Trish a hard time, though she is up to it.
No, beyond it.
StoryLen: Editing with no moon, for fun, profit and adventure
Sryope2: Sum! see that's great. I wanted to rename our group the Blue
Pencil, but no one got it but me
MSum865048: I see Len doesn't use the serial comma.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I deserve it, I didn not prepare for hours for this
workshop.... I am winging it
MSum865048: well I get it!!!
Sryope2: so eWorlders are now going to be Write to Publish
Sryope2: that's because we're editors
Sryope2: haha
MSum865048: Somebody give me a sentence to edit
Sryope2: me too
MSum865048: <cracking knuckles
Sryope2: roflol
StoryLen: What is the difference between a duck?
Jackatbrun: The lead story in todays on line NYTimes was a winner, though
the guy blew the drama.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: A sentence to edit... Hang on
Jackatbrun: HERNANDO, Miss., June 19 - It took six hospitalizations and a
number of misdiagnoses before Lynn Milam learned what
Jackatbrun: was causing the vomiting and diarrhea that almost killed her in
1999.
MSum865048: Well there's a syntax error right there...
Jackatbrun: The arsenic levels in her body, her doctor said, were about 100
times what they should have been.
MSum865048: "It took.... before"
Jackatbrun: Ms. Milam was relieved to have a diagnosis, however terrifying.
That relief vanished when the police arrived
StoryLen: <--- wondering what the arsenic level in my body should be, and if
it's below that, where I can get some arsenic to bring myself up to pars
Jackatbrun: to challenge her husband for poisoning his wife.
Sryope2: easy Len, apple seeds are high in arsenic
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: oh dear... what a taggled web we weave.
Jackatbrun: Wife said, "I know my husband. If he were going to kill me, he'd
just use a gun."
StoryLen: <--- running to fruitbowl to sek out apple
Sryope2: eat a cup full and you are poisoned
StoryLen: yum yum
Sryope2: roflol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: 'scuse me...I HAVE to move a cat....
MSum865048: Jack, so was he poisoning her?
Jackatbrun: The Milams had built their own dream house, an A-frame cabin.
Sryope2: preserved wood?
Sryope2: leaching into water?
StoryLen: someday I'm going to build an S-frame house
Jackatbrun: They did everything wrong: wore shorts and short-sleeved shirts
while cutting the "green" wood.
Jackatbrun: The processed wood contains chromated copper arsenate.
Jackatbrun: Then the police discovered Tom, her husband, had as much arsenic
in his body as she did.
Jackatbrun: They also worked inside, lived around the sawdust, and burned
the leavings in the fire.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Rewrite! And whip the fellow who did write it!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: =sentence: "Disgruntled, sullen, stinging from every
scrape collected through his hands and knees scuttle across the bricks, he
dragged up his stool and parked his elbows on the trestle to rething the
failure of his strategy."
Jackatbrun: So the mystery became a civil suit vs. the wood folks.
MSum865048: eek, Tricia....
Sryope2: scrap it all!
MSum865048: why is this guy dragging feces about on the floor?
Jackatbrun: Trish, sounds good to me.
MSum865048: "hands and knees scuttle" should be "hands-and-knees scuttle"
HOST WRTR TRICIA: RIGHT MSum...
MSum865048: well of COURSE I'm right......
MSum865048: sheesh!
Jackatbrun: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: by the way, this is from a very popular fantasy series...
which is now in its sixth book...
MSum865048: change "through" to "in"
Jackatbrun: I must leave, sorry.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: and it is all written like that.... but the story is
good....
MSum865048: oh, Harry Potter..? or is that only four books now?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yikes! How'd that one get passed anyone?
MSum865048: Tricia, it's probably a great read, but the style is awkward, I
think
HOST WRTR TRICIA: She is a popular writer... Janny Wurts....
Sryope2: He sat, sullen and disgruntled, his battered body aching, as he
pondered his failed strategy.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: The style is horrible.....
MSum865048: Gone With the Wind is a great example of a badly written book
that's a terrific story
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: agreed Trish!
JeanM MD: Now see - I like it. I find it evocative. Except for that
dragging up the stool thing, and I'd never have misinterpreted that without
your help. :)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: but she has incredible moments where meteoric metaphors
light up the sky... and as I said, the story is good.....
MSum865048: It's hackneyed and amateurish, I think
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: lol jean!
HOST WRTR Linda: Yes, Trish. A good example of excess.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: definately excess!
MSum865048: Well maybe I misread "stool" since I'd just heard a horrible
joke
HOST WRTR Linda: It's over the top in unimportant areas.
Sryope2: Did that sum it up, or did I leave too much out?
HOST WRTR Linda: I think you had it Sryope
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry.... that was good!!
Sryope2: be good Sum! lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I think you got it perfectly Sry.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: yep that is what she meant to say!!
Sryope2: thanks, but it was hard. You don't know what is poetic, and what
is merely confusing
HOST WRTR TRICIA: When editing yourself.... it is important to be strict...
when editing someone else it is important to try
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :-)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: maintain the meaning that the writer intended to
convey....
MSum865048: night, kids!!**
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry... for practice sometime get a used copy of Curse of
the Mistwraith....
Sryope2: Gee I was looking forward to his version
Sryope2: Tricia, for practice, I have the entire critique group at eWorld/
now Write to Publish. lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, me too.
Sryope2: hi Mystical
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Where is eWorld located...?
JeanM MD: Battered and grumpy, he plopped himself onto a chair and propped
his elbows on the table to rethink his strategy.
Sryope2: The den on monday nights
Sryope2: but now we're in WPLC if they'll ever give us a room. lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Okay... I went there looking for Writers things....
Sryope2: see, I think Jean captured more of the feeling of the sentence than
I did
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Guess they have to wait till iUniverse is gone
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I presume the transfer can only take place after the
official end.
HOST WRTR Linda: I think I'll have to go early. All this aquinting is
giving me a headache and isn't improving my vision at all. BTW if things go
well WB will be moving to the Careers and Work channel.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry.... everyone sees a sentence like that in a different
way
Sryope2: Tricia, you go to career and work, then to chats, then to writing
and publishing, and then a chat schedule pops up. not all the chats are
listed. There are more
HOST WRTR Linda: night all.
JeanM MD: night LInday
Sryope2: night, Linda
JeanM MD: um, Linda
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Nighters Linda
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Night LInda!! take care!!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: SP go try zinc and Vit C....
Sryope2: Linda ended Writers Club bleary eyed and weary
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I will...
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Jack already went to bed or somewhere....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I'm in much the same state Sry... fighting a cold.
Sryope2: did you take ecchinacea??
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I'm steering her toward the zinc and vitamin C tablets
JeanM MD: Are you going to try to coninue these chats elsewhere?
Sryope2: next time take at least 900 mg three times a day, when you first
feel that sore throat just begining? and the cold will be gone in one day
JeanM MD: Lots of zinc and C!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yes Jean.... if they ever give us a location.
JeanM MD: How will we peons know where to go?
Sryope2: zinc gluconate lozenges are best, but you have to use a min of 8
per day
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Watch for the Memo... ;-)
Sryope2: Jean, there will be links from this room to the net
Sryope2: next
HOST WRTR TRICIA: IF we manage to move you will be getting a memo on how to
get there
Sryope2: ken promised that
JeanM MD: Oh please make sure I'm on your mailing list
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: There are no links to this room Sry.
Sryope2: in fact, there is a possiblity that the room itself might be moved
over there
Sryope2: only because of iU, once they go, the links will return like we had
before iU took over
Sryope2: that's what Ken said, at least. <G>
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Jean I imagine you are on the list... I don't have a copy
yet....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, we'll have to wait and see I guess.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: You are Jean....
HOST WRTR TRICIA: there will be memos flying around as the dust settles
Sryope2: yes, he's been hiding lately. lol, maybe on vacation, maybe sick
of all of us. lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Jfireagle wants to start Novel Ideas up again....
JeanM MD: oh good.
JeanM MD: I'm going to pop over to the Night Owls.
JeanM MD: You folks take care.
Sryope2: every chat is useful
Sryope2: well, guess that's that.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yup...
Sryope2: we've been deserted
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: so ends the WB in the WC!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: yep... our last night at the Writers Club as it once was
Sryope2: sad day, hope we are as good in the next forum
Sryope2: take care guys
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yep, sad indeed...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: You too Sry!!!!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: you too.
Sryope2: see you soon!
Sryope2: and remember, I will have a new name.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: hope so
Sryope2: even if you didn't laugh at my host formerly know as Muse joke
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: lol
Sryope2: known
HOST WRTR TRICIA: okay ROTFLOL
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :::LOGOFF:::
Sryope2: well, Prince doesn't have a monopoly. lol
Sryope2: night all!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: night-night
HOST WRTR TRICIA: night Muse!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Have you applied to Careers and Work ??
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: did ya get your entry sent?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: gmta!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: GMTA
HOST WRTR TRICIA: and again!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yuppers... and wrote Ken informing him and got a response.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: What did he say?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I was kind of waiting for there to be a chat for me to
apply for...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Uh... basically, they're still working on it and will be
sending a notice.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I hope that AOL gives us a break and only requires a
refresher course
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, I included your Host name in my memo to Ken, as well
as Linda's
HOST WRTR TRICIA: that would be the least they could do.... oh well, then I
guess I have maybe applied?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Letting him know the team is ready to make the change.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: No, they said individually... so I'll just go a nd do
it... as an individual and wait for an answer...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Did you give him your masterscreenname?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, Ken asked that everyone write him as well... so that
he could expidite the applications.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yes, I did.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Since that is where all the information is stored.. I
thought so....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: sent the mail and app. under the master.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Okay... I will apply .....
HOST WRTR TRICIA: YOU go get some rest and try the zinc.....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yeah, I also included a biref "out line" of what this
does...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: what this chat does...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: nice!!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Well, you are phenomenal...anyway... so....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I wanted to let him know the chat's purpose and
basic concept as well...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: just in case there are scheduling conflicts.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I guess it is wait and see time at last... I think I will
spend tomorrow copying all the libraries to disk
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I was thinking the same way...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I have most of the uploads I did on backup..
HOST WRTR TRICIA: even the fiction and the poetry libraries....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but since my drive crashed last year there mayb e a few
missing.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: This will be a form of backup for me as well.....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I've maintained cpies of the chats as far back as I can.
;-)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: super!!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, maybe I'll have to send you the HUGE LIST...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (I'm famous for those)
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: That describes the topics we've covered in here.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I think I lost some Novel Advice stuff when I changed
computers
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I'd like one of those.... it would give me ideas....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: okay cool.. I'll dig that one up...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: it's on CD I believe.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: You must be incredibly organized....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: no... I just fake it awfully well!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: if it is fake, that you do!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: awfully!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: couldn't help that one...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but yeah, With my tendency to write mini programs to help
me..
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: like the macros stuff... I keep things fairly well
ordered.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I went from floppies to zips to disks... and all of the
floppies and zips (which I am SURE contain very important information) need
to be transferred to disk
HOST WRTR TRICIA: But I bought a Betamax and an 8-track too...so....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yeah, I had a beta too...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but now I'm transferring everything to disc...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and built a program to sort huge lists of files in to a
master
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: alphabettically arranged list for later searching.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: WOW! Shat kind of a course would I have to take to learn
how to do something like that??
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: each disc has that as a word document on the first
directory.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: What....sheesh...fingers are sticking to the keys
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: hehehe. well, a course in logical thinking would be the
foirst one.
DYRF62978: greetings
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: foist... been talking to a brooklynite again I guess.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: ;-) We had that discussion this morning in the Lighter
Side chat.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Guess that is out... I took logic in college...we took the
same test at the beginning and the end of the class.... I dropped a point.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Hi DY!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, I could write up a brief tutorial on it I guess...
DYRF62978: hi tricia
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: specifically as it relates to comfusers.
DYRF62978: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: specifically for comfusers!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: hehehehe.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: That's from a card someone gave me years ago...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: a chimp sitting a typewriter...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: who looks up a word in the dictionary and then types.
DYRF62978: oh man.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: My friend had written "Computer" across the typewriter..
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and "Comfuser" on the inside.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: My favorite card was this little bird on the front saying
"I can fly! I can fly! I can fly!..." opened it said.... (bird on rump on
ground) "but I can't land."
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and that came from the type setting machine whenever it
started to mess up.
DYRF62978: lmao
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: it'd spell words wrong, but you could still read the text.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: strangest stuff you ever saw.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: computer=kuputor, etc.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: almost phonetic
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: it=iw
DYRF62978: hehehe
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah it was really strange. The mistakes made were almost
unbelievable.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: iw would have to be put in context.... could be in
DYRF62978: sounds like they need a hooked on phonics for dictionaries
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I don't recall a paragraph right now...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but it was the oddest thing that you could still read it!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and we spent a few chuckles on wondering how the machine
knew.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: what to change and yet remain readable!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I have always believed machines to be sentient
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: well, that's one was called "Brutus" and he certainly had
his own way of speaking!
DYRF62978: lol
DYRF62978: hahaha brutus that's too much
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: So I don't know.... maybe you're right.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: anyway... See ya when. I need to get those tablets and see
if I can shake this cold.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Well, I think I shall change out of this hot uniform...(I
think it was mean of iUniverse not to issue summer uniforms this year....)
and go and apply for further servitude....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: okay... take care and goodnight.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: You too!!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: night!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :::LOGOFF:::
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HOST WRTR TRICIA: WELCOME TO WRITING BASICS
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Tonight we will play around with editing.... there are so
many areas of editing that
HOST WRTR TRICIA: we will only be skimming the surface.... but here is a
parqagraph for you to make clearer.... remove verbosity, etc...:
Sryope2: okay, make it good! ;-)
Jackatbrun: adverbosity or adjectosity, maybe. Verbs are good.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: FIRE REPORT: Heavy rains throughout most of the State have
given an optimistic outlook for lessened fire danger for ther rest of the
season. However, an abundance of lightning maintains a certaiin amount of
hazard in isolated
HOST WRTR TRICIA: areas that have not received an excessive amount of rain.
We were pleased to have been able to help Nevada with the suppression of
their conflagration.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: (GA)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: (sorry about the typos.... am trying to type tto fast)
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (yay! Someone opened the door for Linda!)
Jackatbrun: Rains lessened the fire danger for the rest of the season.
Lightening remains a hazard in dry areas. Nevada is safe from conflagration.
Sryope2: Throughout most of the US, heavy rains are decreasing the chance of
forest fires. Yet, lightning still is a hazard in areas of drought. We are
pleased to have helped Nevada during this trying period.
Sryope2: hi linda!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Hi Linda!!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Hey LM!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Those are both good!!
HOST WRTR Linda: Hi
HOST WRTR Linda: It took me a while to find the computer, I had an eye exam
and they used
HOST WRTR TRICIA: DROPS
JeanM MD: Heavy rains over most of Nevada will lessen the danger from fires
for the rest of this season. However, dry areas are still at risk from
lightning.
HOST WRTR Linda: those drops that dilate..but then you can't see at all.
HOST WRTR Linda: yup
Jackatbrun: Hey, Len, welcome and well met.
StoryLen: merry meet, Jack O
StoryLen: I can't even SAY "syrope"
Sryope2: hey Old!
Jackatbrun: Jean, well done and considered. But i never begin a sentence
with "however."
HOST WRTR Linda: lol
StoryLen: sigh-rope?
Sryope2: yes you can, it's sree -- ohp
Sryope2: lol
StoryLen: Nevertheless, Jack, it's done.
Jackatbrun: Syrup, very sweet, 100% maple.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: That is good too! Jean!!.. Jean's version was the closest
to maintaining the meaning of the original, however.
Sryope2: oh, is Jack calling me sweet?
JeanM MD: I know I'm not supposed to, but what the heck... :)
Sryope2: why aren't you supposed to?
JeanM MD: I don't know... Not supposed to start with 'and" or "but" either,
but I do.
Sryope2: Len, call me Sry -- all my friends do
HOST WRTR TRICIA: For instance, Jack, it does not indicate that Nevada is
safe from conflagrration....
HOST WRTR TRICIA: or fire for that matter!
StoryLen: ok sry
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Welcome Len!
StoryLen: hi trish
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I see that while I had my head down a couple of other
visitors came and went!
Jackatbrun: Len, Trish tries to make us write better, even though some of us
are drunk and should be abed.
StoryLen: and the lesson is...?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Here is another one..not as long this time.....
HOST WRTR Linda: rotflol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Len, we are talking about editing... and sheesh Jack,
drunk?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: congrratulations! And may your hangover be a small one.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (And I just have a cold...)
Sryope2: See that's why he's sweet talking me tonight
HOST WRTR Linda: Some days are like that, Tricia
Sryope2: calling me syrup
Jackatbrun: <--trying to stop smoking and booze helps
Sryope2: ;-)
HOST WRTR Linda: oh, jeez
StoryLen: Jacke <hic!> thash okay, I kin rite az good drunk (an im' not
druk) az any 10 writers sobre
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL Jack!
Sryope2: So do nicotine patches and Zyban
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Is that sort of like jumping from the fire into the frying
pan?
HOST WRTR Linda: Now I have heard them all
Jackatbrun: LOL, Len
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I never tried that one Jack.
Sryope2: jack wants to be Hemingway
Jackatbrun: Linda, hey, we writers be a creative bunch
Sryope2: okay, Tricia, hit us again
Jackatbrun: Trish, not this sloshed.
StoryLen: I want to jump from the waffle iron into the lobster pot
JeanM MD: Wait! Don't hit... use a whip.
Sryope2: yikes
HOST WRTR Linda: Yup, and you are especially creative with that one.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: this one was from the fovernment...OSHA egress standard
StoryLen: or from the microwave into the double-boiler.
StoryLen: no wait....
Sryope2: foverment?
Jackatbrun: Not waiting.
Sryope2: should we edit your lines?
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :-)
Sryope2: <------ OHSA expert for real
Jackatbrun: my wrist hurts
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "Ways of exit access and the doors to exits to which they
lead shall be so designed and arranged as to be clearly recognizable as
such."
StoryLen: AH SO expert, for real.
HOST WRTR Linda: ergonomic this U?
Sryope2: yes, that's the way they write it! lol
Jackatbrun: Exit signs will be posted.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry... please don't, I am trying to type above my
peter-principle level of speed
JeanM MD: All doors shall be marked by "Exit" signs.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yeow! That original hurts my eyes!
Sryope2: Exits and Exits doors must be clearly marked.
HOST WRTR Linda: Yay Jean!
JeanM MD: I think Sry's is the best: Exits must be clearly marked.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: OSHA's second try was: An exit must be free of signs or
decorations that obscure its visibility.
Jackatbrun: Exit signs will be obvious.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL!
StoryLen: Exits shall be marked as doors, and the Doors shall exit, stage
right, but not until they've finished three encores, and the crowd is
sloshed.
JeanM MD: Don't cover the doors.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: All exits will be unmarked.
Jackatbrun: Len, by golly, I think you've GOT it.
StoryLen: unless the mosh pit be mashed
HOST WRTR Linda: Jack, knowing how OSHA inapwxirona go, they would cite you
for ambiguity. Sort of like the "don't use a blow dryer in the shower"
labels on hair dryers.
Sryope2: Did anyone hear how Barnum got people to leave his museum? He said
-- This way to see the egress
Sryope2: an egress is the exit door
HOST WRTR Linda: (inspections, inspections)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I love that one Sry!!!
Sryope2: they'd go through it and be outside the building
HOST WRTR TRICIA: LOL
StoryLen: to hell with the egress; I want to see the egre!
StoryLen: Especially the albino Asian Egre
HOST WRTR Linda: You will regret that Len.
Sryope2: hey, at least I gave a definition! what's an Egre?
StoryLen: found only in certain valleys in the foothills of the himalyas in
kashmir
StoryLen: an Egre is a male Egress.
Jackatbrun: Len, but those Egres are bin Laden terrorists.
Sryope2: and is what? human, animal, vegetable?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :-)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: On to meaningless words.... can you edit these phrases and
make them shorter and less convoluted? Here goes....
HOST WRTR Linda: uh, maile egress?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "is prepared to inform you"
Jackatbrun: Linda, you should have another drink.
StoryLen: JAck, then OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "is not in a position to"
HOST WRTR Linda: Jack I do believe you are right!
Sryope2: We'd like you to know
Jackatbrun: Linda*
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "will take steps"
Sryope2: can't
Jackatbrun: Know this, idiot.
Sryope2: will sue
HOST WRTR TRICIA: "does not see his way to"
Sryope2: is unable
StoryLen: is clueless
Sryope2: or won't
HOST WRTR Linda: hahahahaha
Sryope2: has no money
HOST WRTR Linda: lol
JeanM MD: Is prepared to inform you : will tell you
JeanM MD: is not in a position to: can't
HOST WRTR TRICIA: here is a mouthfull..... "to cause an investigation to be
made with a view to ascertaining"
JeanM MD: will take steps : will
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Right!!! All of you are doing well at this!!!!
Sryope2: Will look into
JeanM MD: does not see his way to: can't see to
Jackatbrun: Trish, I'm not. I don't understand that language.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: that's okay, Jack... it is airhead action!
JeanM MD: to cause an investigation.... : will investigate
HOST WRTR Linda: doesn not see his way to: won't
Sryope2: Will investigate
Jackatbrun: We will pursue you to death's door.
HOST WRTR Linda: yup, I think Jack has the intent of that one nailed.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: A great many of these phrases come from reporters without
imaginations who are trying to make themselves sound smart
Sryope2: yes
StoryLen: G&S: "If this young man expresses himself in words too deep for
me....
StoryLen: "Then what a very singularly deep young man this deep young man
must be!"
Jackatbrun: ...words too deep for tears.
Sryope2: HMS??
StoryLen: Iolanthe, I think
HOST WRTR TRICIA: On the other hand I read a pretty good cliche turnaround
the other day..... He was pacing up and down like an expectant father on hot
bricks.
Sryope2: <------- yum yum
Jackatbrun: <Len, psst. I get REALLY paranoid when there are as many "HOSTS"
in a room as other participants. Really glad you're here.
Sryope2: lol
Sryope2: hi Sum
MSum865048: Hi, Sry
Sryope2: first time I've seen you outside of trivia
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, we can always take the uniforms off Jack.
Sryope2: hey, I'm stripped bare
MSum865048: True, Sry
HOST WRTR TRICIA: We have to take these off anyway soon.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: But we'll still chase you around the room... ;-)
Sryope2: Jean are you a hostie too
Sryope2: lol
StoryLen: This room has the most hosts with the mostest hostest toast test
ghost
JeanM MD: I was, several years ago
MSum865048: Len***
Jackatbrun: Spkld1, don't you dare. It's your last night here.
StoryLen: Margie**
JeanM MD: for another area
MSum865048: Are we editing tonight?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yea we are...
MSum865048: I stand with blue pencil at the ready....
Sryope2: actually, I have to give up my host name. :-(
MSum865048: fire at will....
Sryope2: so now I'm the host formerly known as Muse.
Jackatbrun: Summie, we're giving Trish a hard time, though she is up to it.
No, beyond it.
StoryLen: Editing with no moon, for fun, profit and adventure
Sryope2: Sum! see that's great. I wanted to rename our group the Blue
Pencil, but no one got it but me
MSum865048: I see Len doesn't use the serial comma.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I deserve it, I didn not prepare for hours for this
workshop.... I am winging it
MSum865048: well I get it!!!
Sryope2: so eWorlders are now going to be Write to Publish
Sryope2: that's because we're editors
Sryope2: haha
MSum865048: Somebody give me a sentence to edit
Sryope2: me too
MSum865048: <cracking knuckles
Sryope2: roflol
StoryLen: What is the difference between a duck?
Jackatbrun: The lead story in todays on line NYTimes was a winner, though
the guy blew the drama.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: A sentence to edit... Hang on
Jackatbrun: HERNANDO, Miss., June 19 - It took six hospitalizations and a
number of misdiagnoses before Lynn Milam learned what
Jackatbrun: was causing the vomiting and diarrhea that almost killed her in
1999.
MSum865048: Well there's a syntax error right there...
Jackatbrun: The arsenic levels in her body, her doctor said, were about 100
times what they should have been.
MSum865048: "It took.... before"
Jackatbrun: Ms. Milam was relieved to have a diagnosis, however terrifying.
That relief vanished when the police arrived
StoryLen: <--- wondering what the arsenic level in my body should be, and if
it's below that, where I can get some arsenic to bring myself up to pars
Jackatbrun: to challenge her husband for poisoning his wife.
Sryope2: easy Len, apple seeds are high in arsenic
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: oh dear... what a taggled web we weave.
Jackatbrun: Wife said, "I know my husband. If he were going to kill me, he'd
just use a gun."
StoryLen: <--- running to fruitbowl to sek out apple
Sryope2: eat a cup full and you are poisoned
StoryLen: yum yum
Sryope2: roflol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: 'scuse me...I HAVE to move a cat....
MSum865048: Jack, so was he poisoning her?
Jackatbrun: The Milams had built their own dream house, an A-frame cabin.
Sryope2: preserved wood?
Sryope2: leaching into water?
StoryLen: someday I'm going to build an S-frame house
Jackatbrun: They did everything wrong: wore shorts and short-sleeved shirts
while cutting the "green" wood.
Jackatbrun: The processed wood contains chromated copper arsenate.
Jackatbrun: Then the police discovered Tom, her husband, had as much arsenic
in his body as she did.
Jackatbrun: They also worked inside, lived around the sawdust, and burned
the leavings in the fire.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Rewrite! And whip the fellow who did write it!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: =sentence: "Disgruntled, sullen, stinging from every
scrape collected through his hands and knees scuttle across the bricks, he
dragged up his stool and parked his elbows on the trestle to rething the
failure of his strategy."
Jackatbrun: So the mystery became a civil suit vs. the wood folks.
MSum865048: eek, Tricia....
Sryope2: scrap it all!
MSum865048: why is this guy dragging feces about on the floor?
Jackatbrun: Trish, sounds good to me.
MSum865048: "hands and knees scuttle" should be "hands-and-knees scuttle"
HOST WRTR TRICIA: RIGHT MSum...
MSum865048: well of COURSE I'm right......
MSum865048: sheesh!
Jackatbrun: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: by the way, this is from a very popular fantasy series...
which is now in its sixth book...
MSum865048: change "through" to "in"
Jackatbrun: I must leave, sorry.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: and it is all written like that.... but the story is
good....
MSum865048: oh, Harry Potter..? or is that only four books now?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yikes! How'd that one get passed anyone?
MSum865048: Tricia, it's probably a great read, but the style is awkward, I
think
HOST WRTR TRICIA: She is a popular writer... Janny Wurts....
Sryope2: He sat, sullen and disgruntled, his battered body aching, as he
pondered his failed strategy.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: The style is horrible.....
MSum865048: Gone With the Wind is a great example of a badly written book
that's a terrific story
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: agreed Trish!
JeanM MD: Now see - I like it. I find it evocative. Except for that
dragging up the stool thing, and I'd never have misinterpreted that without
your help. :)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: but she has incredible moments where meteoric metaphors
light up the sky... and as I said, the story is good.....
MSum865048: It's hackneyed and amateurish, I think
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: lol jean!
HOST WRTR Linda: Yes, Trish. A good example of excess.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: definately excess!
MSum865048: Well maybe I misread "stool" since I'd just heard a horrible
joke
HOST WRTR Linda: It's over the top in unimportant areas.
Sryope2: Did that sum it up, or did I leave too much out?
HOST WRTR Linda: I think you had it Sryope
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry.... that was good!!
Sryope2: be good Sum! lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I think you got it perfectly Sry.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: yep that is what she meant to say!!
Sryope2: thanks, but it was hard. You don't know what is poetic, and what
is merely confusing
HOST WRTR TRICIA: When editing yourself.... it is important to be strict...
when editing someone else it is important to try
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :-)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: maintain the meaning that the writer intended to
convey....
MSum865048: night, kids!!**
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry... for practice sometime get a used copy of Curse of
the Mistwraith....
Sryope2: Gee I was looking forward to his version
Sryope2: Tricia, for practice, I have the entire critique group at eWorld/
now Write to Publish. lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, me too.
Sryope2: hi Mystical
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Where is eWorld located...?
JeanM MD: Battered and grumpy, he plopped himself onto a chair and propped
his elbows on the table to rethink his strategy.
Sryope2: The den on monday nights
Sryope2: but now we're in WPLC if they'll ever give us a room. lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Okay... I went there looking for Writers things....
Sryope2: see, I think Jean captured more of the feeling of the sentence than
I did
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Guess they have to wait till iUniverse is gone
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I presume the transfer can only take place after the
official end.
HOST WRTR Linda: I think I'll have to go early. All this aquinting is
giving me a headache and isn't improving my vision at all. BTW if things go
well WB will be moving to the Careers and Work channel.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Sry.... everyone sees a sentence like that in a different
way
Sryope2: Tricia, you go to career and work, then to chats, then to writing
and publishing, and then a chat schedule pops up. not all the chats are
listed. There are more
HOST WRTR Linda: night all.
JeanM MD: night LInday
Sryope2: night, Linda
JeanM MD: um, Linda
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Nighters Linda
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Night LInda!! take care!!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: SP go try zinc and Vit C....
Sryope2: Linda ended Writers Club bleary eyed and weary
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I will...
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Jack already went to bed or somewhere....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I'm in much the same state Sry... fighting a cold.
Sryope2: did you take ecchinacea??
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I'm steering her toward the zinc and vitamin C tablets
JeanM MD: Are you going to try to coninue these chats elsewhere?
Sryope2: next time take at least 900 mg three times a day, when you first
feel that sore throat just begining? and the cold will be gone in one day
JeanM MD: Lots of zinc and C!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yes Jean.... if they ever give us a location.
JeanM MD: How will we peons know where to go?
Sryope2: zinc gluconate lozenges are best, but you have to use a min of 8
per day
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Watch for the Memo... ;-)
Sryope2: Jean, there will be links from this room to the net
Sryope2: next
HOST WRTR TRICIA: IF we manage to move you will be getting a memo on how to
get there
Sryope2: ken promised that
JeanM MD: Oh please make sure I'm on your mailing list
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: There are no links to this room Sry.
Sryope2: in fact, there is a possiblity that the room itself might be moved
over there
Sryope2: only because of iU, once they go, the links will return like we had
before iU took over
Sryope2: that's what Ken said, at least. <G>
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Jean I imagine you are on the list... I don't have a copy
yet....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, we'll have to wait and see I guess.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: You are Jean....
HOST WRTR TRICIA: there will be memos flying around as the dust settles
Sryope2: yes, he's been hiding lately. lol, maybe on vacation, maybe sick
of all of us. lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Jfireagle wants to start Novel Ideas up again....
JeanM MD: oh good.
JeanM MD: I'm going to pop over to the Night Owls.
JeanM MD: You folks take care.
Sryope2: every chat is useful
Sryope2: well, guess that's that.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yup...
Sryope2: we've been deserted
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: so ends the WB in the WC!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: yep... our last night at the Writers Club as it once was
Sryope2: sad day, hope we are as good in the next forum
Sryope2: take care guys
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yep, sad indeed...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: You too Sry!!!!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: you too.
Sryope2: see you soon!
Sryope2: and remember, I will have a new name.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: hope so
Sryope2: even if you didn't laugh at my host formerly know as Muse joke
Sryope2: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: lol
Sryope2: known
HOST WRTR TRICIA: okay ROTFLOL
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :::LOGOFF:::
Sryope2: well, Prince doesn't have a monopoly. lol
Sryope2: night all!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: night-night
HOST WRTR TRICIA: night Muse!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Have you applied to Careers and Work ??
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: did ya get your entry sent?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: gmta!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: GMTA
HOST WRTR TRICIA: and again!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yuppers... and wrote Ken informing him and got a response.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: What did he say?
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I was kind of waiting for there to be a chat for me to
apply for...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Uh... basically, they're still working on it and will be
sending a notice.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I hope that AOL gives us a break and only requires a
refresher course
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, I included your Host name in my memo to Ken, as well
as Linda's
HOST WRTR TRICIA: that would be the least they could do.... oh well, then I
guess I have maybe applied?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Letting him know the team is ready to make the change.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: No, they said individually... so I'll just go a nd do
it... as an individual and wait for an answer...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Did you give him your masterscreenname?
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, Ken asked that everyone write him as well... so that
he could expidite the applications.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yes, I did.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Since that is where all the information is stored.. I
thought so....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: sent the mail and app. under the master.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Okay... I will apply .....
HOST WRTR TRICIA: YOU go get some rest and try the zinc.....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yeah, I also included a biref "out line" of what this
does...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: what this chat does...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: nice!!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Well, you are phenomenal...anyway... so....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I wanted to let him know the chat's purpose and
basic concept as well...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: just in case there are scheduling conflicts.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I guess it is wait and see time at last... I think I will
spend tomorrow copying all the libraries to disk
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I was thinking the same way...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I have most of the uploads I did on backup..
HOST WRTR TRICIA: even the fiction and the poetry libraries....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but since my drive crashed last year there mayb e a few
missing.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: This will be a form of backup for me as well.....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: I've maintained cpies of the chats as far back as I can.
;-)
HOST WRTR TRICIA: super!!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, maybe I'll have to send you the HUGE LIST...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: (I'm famous for those)
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: That describes the topics we've covered in here.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I think I lost some Novel Advice stuff when I changed
computers
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I'd like one of those.... it would give me ideas....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: okay cool.. I'll dig that one up...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: it's on CD I believe.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: You must be incredibly organized....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: no... I just fake it awfully well!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: if it is fake, that you do!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: awfully!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: couldn't help that one...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but yeah, With my tendency to write mini programs to help
me..
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: like the macros stuff... I keep things fairly well
ordered.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I went from floppies to zips to disks... and all of the
floppies and zips (which I am SURE contain very important information) need
to be transferred to disk
HOST WRTR TRICIA: But I bought a Betamax and an 8-track too...so....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: LOL!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Yeah, I had a beta too...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but now I'm transferring everything to disc...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and built a program to sort huge lists of files in to a
master
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: alphabettically arranged list for later searching.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: WOW! Shat kind of a course would I have to take to learn
how to do something like that??
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: each disc has that as a word document on the first
directory.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: What....sheesh...fingers are sticking to the keys
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: hehehe. well, a course in logical thinking would be the
foirst one.
DYRF62978: greetings
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: foist... been talking to a brooklynite again I guess.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: ;-) We had that discussion this morning in the Lighter
Side chat.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Guess that is out... I took logic in college...we took the
same test at the beginning and the end of the class.... I dropped a point.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Hi DY!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: Well, I could write up a brief tutorial on it I guess...
DYRF62978: hi tricia
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: specifically as it relates to comfusers.
DYRF62978: lol
HOST WRTR TRICIA: specifically for comfusers!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: hehehehe.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: That's from a card someone gave me years ago...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: a chimp sitting a typewriter...
HOST WRTR TRICIA: lol
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: who looks up a word in the dictionary and then types.
DYRF62978: oh man.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: My friend had written "Computer" across the typewriter..
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and "Comfuser" on the inside.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: My favorite card was this little bird on the front saying
"I can fly! I can fly! I can fly!..." opened it said.... (bird on rump on
ground) "but I can't land."
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and that came from the type setting machine whenever it
started to mess up.
DYRF62978: lmao
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: it'd spell words wrong, but you could still read the text.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: strangest stuff you ever saw.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: computer=kuputor, etc.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: almost phonetic
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: it=iw
DYRF62978: hehehe
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah it was really strange. The mistakes made were almost
unbelievable.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: iw would have to be put in context.... could be in
DYRF62978: sounds like they need a hooked on phonics for dictionaries
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: yeah, I don't recall a paragraph right now...
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: but it was the oddest thing that you could still read it!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: and we spent a few chuckles on wondering how the machine
knew.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: what to change and yet remain readable!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: I have always believed machines to be sentient
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: well, that's one was called "Brutus" and he certainly had
his own way of speaking!
DYRF62978: lol
DYRF62978: hahaha brutus that's too much
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: So I don't know.... maybe you're right.
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: anyway... See ya when. I need to get those tablets and see
if I can shake this cold.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: Well, I think I shall change out of this hot uniform...(I
think it was mean of iUniverse not to issue summer uniforms this year....)
and go and apply for further servitude....
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: okay... take care and goodnight.
HOST WRTR TRICIA: You too!!
HOST WRTR TRICIA: night!
HOST WRTR SPKLD1: :::LOGOFF:::
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