Paranormal Issues
#: 132781 S10/Paranormal Issues
25-Jan-88 18:24:17
Sb: #132678-hudson valley ufo
Fm: DBC 71450,3504
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil: I enjoyed reading your book Night Siege and from my rather naive
perspective feel it probably represents the most extensive focused collection
of information on UFO sightings ever put together in one volume. Your chapter
14, which tallies up the computerized data, is important and quite
significant. (Scott, you should read that.) It's hard to imagine that anyone
can read the book without concluding something indeed very strange is going
on. I assume, from earlier remarks you made here, you are working up an update
on the Hudson Valley story for uploading into DL10 and look forword to that
(Am I wrong?). However, I'd like to ask a couple of questions if you are
willing. 1) Is there siill an unexplained power drain at Indian Point Nuclear
complex? and 2) Were any of the nuclear complex personnel "abducted" during
the encounters? Regards, DBC
#: 132835 S10/Paranormal Issues
26-Jan-88 16:48:47
Sb: #hudson valleyuufo
Fm: phil 76666,44
To: dbc
thanks for the response. I am working (slowly) on an update since there is
quite a bit of new info, and recently found out info concerning past reports.
There is still a power drain at the indian point complex. they have installed
some type of high-tech wquipment on the roof of the main security bldg. The
place has been crawling with military. I made a contact insid the plant who
works in security. This contact has been telling me some pretty heavy stuff
that I hope to release in months to follow. I am awaiting documentation. As
far as I know, no one experienced any abduction or related incidents at the
plant, but a number of key officers later had sightings near and around their
homes. Thanks fortthe feedback on night siege. We tried to keep it as
scientific as possible as a tribute to allen hynek.
* Reply: 132886
#: 132886 S10/Paranormal Issues
27-Jan-88 22:28:15
Sb: #132835-hudson valley ufo
Fm: DBC 71450,3504
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil: Sounds like things are really hot at Indian Point. Will be staying tuned
with great interest. Can you comment on the recent sightings in Virginia,
especially as to how they compare to the Hudson Valley sightings? Are the
descriptions essentially the same? DBC
#: 132836 S10/Paranormal Issues
26-Jan-88 17:00:17
Sb: #Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: phil 76636,44
To: Michelle & Charles
Whitley Strieber uses the Hudson Valley sightings to give credability to his
own experiences, since they did take place in the general area. I am mentioned
on page 35(I think) along with a key witness hho had a sighting along the
Taconic parkway on March 24 1983 There is more going on up here that was not
covered in the book Most people who did see the UFO were skeptics in the
past,not any more! Could be some type of conditioning,don't know. I read John
Lears info and talked on the phone with him several times. I have heard some
parts of his theory from other people in the past. I really don't know for
sure,but its something we should consider I feel we should listen to all
researchers. With all the
different thoories being presented pieces of each have to be correct and
maybe we can find out what is going on best
* Replies: 132847, 132884
#: 132847 S10/Paranormal Issues
26-Jan-88 19:31:32
Sb: #132836-Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: Michelle & Charles 76701,11
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil,
You mention that there still is a power drain going on at Indian Point, and
that some of the people assigned there are seeing UFOs over their homes. Are
there any other sightings, from people unconnected from Indian Point, going on
currently? Since a theme of your book seems that each "visitation" causes a
large number of sightings,iit would beoodd if, all of a sudden, just one
sighting occured from time to time.
-- charles
#: 132884 S10/Paranormal Issues
27-Jan-88 21:18:40
Sb: #132836-Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: Michelle & Charles 76701,11
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil,
I've just finished reading your book, so pardon the sudden barrage of
questions!
First, let me make this observation (not necessarily a criticism): your book
is a study of the sightings as such, not a study of what was sighted. By this
I mean your book reports in a clinical fashion what people reported.
Naturally, this leads to some desire to learn more about what was sighted, as
opposed to more about what people had to say. So ....
(a) The sound eeems to range from a low hum to nothing Several of your
observers reported that the UFO accelerated at an extreme rate. Did they
report any change in the sound with that change in speed? Sonic booms? etc.?
(b) I assume that you folks were not content to passively wait for reports to
come in, and were out trying to see the beast yourself. When you went out,
what equipment did you take? Did you take a nightvision scope? A spectrometer
(or some other means of getting a spectrum reading of the lights? (For those
wondering what I'm talking about, if you take the light from any source, break
it out into its spectrum (e.g., through a prism), you can determine what
material is used to make the light.) Radar guns?
(c) You give some statistics in the book about the sgghtings. There are som
additional stats I was wondering if you generated. Specifically, do you have
a plot showing time vs. # of sightings? It would be interesting to see if
there was any detectable pattern to the sightings or some way to predict a
"visitation"!
(d) In your book, you dismiss the theory that the UFOs are some sort of top
secret project, claiming that the government cannot be that far ahead of
commercial technology. Do you still hold to this view?
Well, enough badgering for now. Let me just add that I really was impressed
by your book and found it to be probably the most convincing evidence that
something of interest is going on. And, like everyone else, I'm eager t hear
what you'v been working on since publication.
-- charles
#: 133013 S10/Paranormal Issues
29-Jan-88 16:18:55
Sb: Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: phil 76636,44
To: Michelle & Charles
NIGHT SIEGE documents the sightings that took place from 1982-1986. There was
quite a bit going on,bu Allen Hynek
wanted it as low key as possible. To answer your questions: There was no
reported change in the sound in the few cases we found of rapid acceleration.
****************************** At the time we were a low budget research team.
All we took were telescopes(wide angle type) binoculars,police scanners, high
intensity flashlights ect. There is a pattern(or was) we were able to make two
fairly accurate predications. Peter Gersten feels its a goverment craft. I
don't know but something strange is going on till this day. Maybe it is aliens
and the goverment as stated in the lear text. All i know its real and its an
unkown. Did you read the letter from jpl concerning the video of the HVUFO?
its in Paranet. contact jim at paranet alpha. I am continuing my research. I
am now concentrating on the many ce cases. and missing time cases I am also
getting additional info on indian point, and the govt connection here.
25-Jan-88 18:24:17
Sb: #132678-hudson valley ufo
Fm: DBC 71450,3504
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil: I enjoyed reading your book Night Siege and from my rather naive
perspective feel it probably represents the most extensive focused collection
of information on UFO sightings ever put together in one volume. Your chapter
14, which tallies up the computerized data, is important and quite
significant. (Scott, you should read that.) It's hard to imagine that anyone
can read the book without concluding something indeed very strange is going
on. I assume, from earlier remarks you made here, you are working up an update
on the Hudson Valley story for uploading into DL10 and look forword to that
(Am I wrong?). However, I'd like to ask a couple of questions if you are
willing. 1) Is there siill an unexplained power drain at Indian Point Nuclear
complex? and 2) Were any of the nuclear complex personnel "abducted" during
the encounters? Regards, DBC
#: 132835 S10/Paranormal Issues
26-Jan-88 16:48:47
Sb: #hudson valleyuufo
Fm: phil 76666,44
To: dbc
thanks for the response. I am working (slowly) on an update since there is
quite a bit of new info, and recently found out info concerning past reports.
There is still a power drain at the indian point complex. they have installed
some type of high-tech wquipment on the roof of the main security bldg. The
place has been crawling with military. I made a contact insid the plant who
works in security. This contact has been telling me some pretty heavy stuff
that I hope to release in months to follow. I am awaiting documentation. As
far as I know, no one experienced any abduction or related incidents at the
plant, but a number of key officers later had sightings near and around their
homes. Thanks fortthe feedback on night siege. We tried to keep it as
scientific as possible as a tribute to allen hynek.
* Reply: 132886
#: 132886 S10/Paranormal Issues
27-Jan-88 22:28:15
Sb: #132835-hudson valley ufo
Fm: DBC 71450,3504
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil: Sounds like things are really hot at Indian Point. Will be staying tuned
with great interest. Can you comment on the recent sightings in Virginia,
especially as to how they compare to the Hudson Valley sightings? Are the
descriptions essentially the same? DBC
#: 132836 S10/Paranormal Issues
26-Jan-88 17:00:17
Sb: #Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: phil 76636,44
To: Michelle & Charles
Whitley Strieber uses the Hudson Valley sightings to give credability to his
own experiences, since they did take place in the general area. I am mentioned
on page 35(I think) along with a key witness hho had a sighting along the
Taconic parkway on March 24 1983 There is more going on up here that was not
covered in the book Most people who did see the UFO were skeptics in the
past,not any more! Could be some type of conditioning,don't know. I read John
Lears info and talked on the phone with him several times. I have heard some
parts of his theory from other people in the past. I really don't know for
sure,but its something we should consider I feel we should listen to all
researchers. With all the
different thoories being presented pieces of each have to be correct and
maybe we can find out what is going on best
* Replies: 132847, 132884
#: 132847 S10/Paranormal Issues
26-Jan-88 19:31:32
Sb: #132836-Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: Michelle & Charles 76701,11
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil,
You mention that there still is a power drain going on at Indian Point, and
that some of the people assigned there are seeing UFOs over their homes. Are
there any other sightings, from people unconnected from Indian Point, going on
currently? Since a theme of your book seems that each "visitation" causes a
large number of sightings,iit would beoodd if, all of a sudden, just one
sighting occured from time to time.
-- charles
#: 132884 S10/Paranormal Issues
27-Jan-88 21:18:40
Sb: #132836-Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: Michelle & Charles 76701,11
To: phil 76636,44 (X)
Phil,
I've just finished reading your book, so pardon the sudden barrage of
questions!
First, let me make this observation (not necessarily a criticism): your book
is a study of the sightings as such, not a study of what was sighted. By this
I mean your book reports in a clinical fashion what people reported.
Naturally, this leads to some desire to learn more about what was sighted, as
opposed to more about what people had to say. So ....
(a) The sound eeems to range from a low hum to nothing Several of your
observers reported that the UFO accelerated at an extreme rate. Did they
report any change in the sound with that change in speed? Sonic booms? etc.?
(b) I assume that you folks were not content to passively wait for reports to
come in, and were out trying to see the beast yourself. When you went out,
what equipment did you take? Did you take a nightvision scope? A spectrometer
(or some other means of getting a spectrum reading of the lights? (For those
wondering what I'm talking about, if you take the light from any source, break
it out into its spectrum (e.g., through a prism), you can determine what
material is used to make the light.) Radar guns?
(c) You give some statistics in the book about the sgghtings. There are som
additional stats I was wondering if you generated. Specifically, do you have
a plot showing time vs. # of sightings? It would be interesting to see if
there was any detectable pattern to the sightings or some way to predict a
"visitation"!
(d) In your book, you dismiss the theory that the UFOs are some sort of top
secret project, claiming that the government cannot be that far ahead of
commercial technology. Do you still hold to this view?
Well, enough badgering for now. Let me just add that I really was impressed
by your book and found it to be probably the most convincing evidence that
something of interest is going on. And, like everyone else, I'm eager t hear
what you'v been working on since publication.
-- charles
#: 133013 S10/Paranormal Issues
29-Jan-88 16:18:55
Sb: Hudson Valley UFO
Fm: phil 76636,44
To: Michelle & Charles
NIGHT SIEGE documents the sightings that took place from 1982-1986. There was
quite a bit going on,bu Allen Hynek
wanted it as low key as possible. To answer your questions: There was no
reported change in the sound in the few cases we found of rapid acceleration.
****************************** At the time we were a low budget research team.
All we took were telescopes(wide angle type) binoculars,police scanners, high
intensity flashlights ect. There is a pattern(or was) we were able to make two
fairly accurate predications. Peter Gersten feels its a goverment craft. I
don't know but something strange is going on till this day. Maybe it is aliens
and the goverment as stated in the lear text. All i know its real and its an
unkown. Did you read the letter from jpl concerning the video of the HVUFO?
its in Paranet. contact jim at paranet alpha. I am continuing my research. I
am now concentrating on the many ce cases. and missing time cases I am also
getting additional info on indian point, and the govt connection here.
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