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From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
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Subject: Re: The Pleiadians on Crop Circles
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Date: 13 Jul 91 05:59:47 GMT
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>>> HARMONICS OF FREQUENCY MODULATION AND THE HUMAN
>>> DNA
>>> November 15 , 1990 Terman Auditorium, Stanford University
>>> Palo Alto, California
>>>
>>> Audience Question: I am curious about the phenomenon of the
>>> circles in the fields in England?
>>>
>>> The Pleiadians:
>>> We will speak briefly about that. How many of you have heard us
>>> talk about the, language of light geometry? Intelligence, of
>>
>>etc., etc.,
>>
>>And I thought my post about Heaven's BBS was amusing...
>>
>>I have a question for the Pleiadians-- if they're responsible for crop
>>circles, then can they create one, on demand, in a particular shape for us at
>>a specific place and time? I'd like to see a perfectly hexagonal one, myself.
>>
>>Until they pass such a simple test, then I'll assume someone's yaking our
>>chains about these circle thingies.
>
>Hey, if they're so all-powerful, I want them to make one in the shape of a
>Mandelbrot set.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
Keep on scoffing you skeptics..but use gentle words..you will have to eat them
one day. :-)
Don
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From: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer)
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Subject: Re: Field Circles
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Date: 13 Jul 91 04:03:24 GMT
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In article <1991Jul9.014812.7979@bilver.uucp> dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
>In article <1991Jul8.055257.896@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James 'Kibo' Parry) writes:
>>In article <3955@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> ijameson@adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au.oz.au (Iain Jameson) writes:
>>>
>>>According to a news item I just heard, "Field Circles" have been
>>>produced in the laboratory.
>>>It was done in Japan using plasma fireballs (ionized air).
>>>
>>>Of course this will have to be confirmed and duplicated.
>>>But we all know enough about science to realise this.
>>
>>Gee, how many laboratories contain fields?
My feed has been in yoyo mode for a few days and I missed the original two
articles. But could someone post more details on this news report? Where
did it appear? The closest thing I've heard is that someone, I can't
remember where, has succeeded in producing plasma vortices and, guess what,
they naturally spin off little satellite vortices. But this was all under
very controlled conditions. They weren't turned loose on a field, and in
fact I don't have any idea how they *could* be. Not to mention the fact
that they weren't anywhere near the size of the circles!
I've also heard, on ParaNet, that someone has discovered that there is a
certain energy level at which grass can be softened and bent, but not
killed, with microwaves. I think the experiment was done in an ordinary
microwave oven, and it wasn't the power that was the determining factor but
the time.
Now, this is all very interesting, but how do you get a really *big* plasma
vortex in the open air? And what causes it to make anything other than
circles?
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From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: About Roswell and the Govt. Coverup
Message-ID: <1991Jul11.235622.6087@bilver.uucp>
Date: 11 Jul 91 23:56:22 GMT
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In article <316@jabaru.oz.au> 00195@tanus.oz.au (Brian Evans) writes:
>
>johnr@systech.bjorn.COM (John Reed) writes:
>>I am not an expert in UFO-ology (or whatever it's called), but to
>>me, as a layman, the evidence seems overwhelming that a crash happened
>>at Roswell, and UFO's are definitely for real.
>>
>>The frustrating part for me is that all of the facts have been covered up.
>>Just what is the truth? What the f*** is going on?
>>
>>If a crash occured at Roswell, and aliens were recovered, then to me,
>>this would be the most significant event that has occurred in all of
>>human history. Does anyone else agree with this viewpoint??
>
>I would also have to agree that based on fact a craft did crash at Roswell
>back in 1947. There has been a lot of written information (third party)
>detailing investigations regarding this incident. A new book is about to be
>released on the Roswell incident which discloses some fantastic facts about
>the incident. The authors have spent a considerable amount of time
>researching the incident and in light of the new evidence and information
>contained in the book (providing it is correct) I am convinced that an alien
>craft DID crash at Roswell. Your viewpoint regarding an important event in
There is a book out now called "UFO Crash At Roswell" and I would recommend
it _most highly_. The authors are Kevin Randle, Capt, USAF-Ret and Don
Schmitt. Published by AVON and available in paperback. This book is a MUST
READ for anyone interested in finding out all the details. The book names
PLENTY of names.
This book,in my opinion, is the ~smoking gun~ that exposes the Govt COVERUP.
Don
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From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: About Roswell and the Govt. Coverup
Message-ID: <1991Jul12.000115.6189@bilver.uucp>
Date: 12 Jul 91 00:01:15 GMT
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In article <4480@anasaz.UUCP> billy@anasaz.UUCP (Bill Moore) writes:
>In article <316@jabaru.oz.au> 00195@tanus.oz.au (Brian Evans) writes:
>>
>>johnr@systech.bjorn.COM (John Reed) writes:
>>>I am not an expert in UFO-ology (or whatever it's called), but to
>>>me, as a layman, the evidence seems overwhelming that a crash happened
>>>at Roswell, and UFO's are definitely for real.
>
>What evidence do you know about that supports the crashed UFO claim? Aside
>from flimsy hearsay statements, as far as I know, there has been nothing. We
>know something happened in Roswell and that its a military secret, there's
>ample proof of that. But how do you get from military secret to UFO?
>
>... stuff deleted ...
Mr Moore..it is plenty obvious to me that you haven't got a bloody clue!
Go get some books and do your research!!
I would most heartily recommend the Randle/Schmitt book, "UFO Crash
at Roswell" that just came out in paperback and published by AVON
books.
Not to mention that Stanton Friedman has been also working on this
for years...
Don
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From: sheepsqueezer@kcbbs.gen.nz (Colin Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Drive System & Navigation
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I seem to remember that when Don Allen posted a list of MUFONet files
there were some interesting-looking ones about gravity/antigravity (&
I think one about vacuum energy) in the general science section. Perhaps
it would be possible for someone to post them on the net? (Don are you
up to it? :-) Then all of us who are interested in drives could discuss
them. I'd do it myself, but unfortunately I can't get there from here
:-)
Sheepsqueezer @kcbbs.gen.nz
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These tests have proved that the planet is immune to truth.
-- 'Shikasta', Doris Lessing
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From: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer)
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Subject: Re: what about the last 44 years ?
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Date: 14 Jul 91 03:45:52 GMT
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There have allegedly been other crashes since Roswell. You're just not
hearing about them outside the U.S., probably since Roswell was the first
and its had time to spread. Roswell is also, to the best of my knowledge,
the best-researched and documented. (If it wasn't before, it will be after
this summer's book releases!) It's also probably one of the most credible.
At Roswell, we know that *something* crashed. Some of the others are just
based on stories from private citizens, with no newspaper articles etc. to
say that *anything* actually happened.
There were (allegedly) a few more in the west in the '40s and (I think)
'50s, and one in Pennsylvania in the '60s. There are also *extremely*
dubious stories of very recent crashes in Canada and South Africa.
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From: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer)
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Subject: working on a FAQL
Message-ID: <jms.5141@vanth.UUCP>
Date: 14 Jul 91 17:20:04 GMT
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In article <1991Jul10.053754.20691@bilver.uucp> dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
>In article <jms.4991@vanth.UUCP> jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
>>
>>Not to the best of my knowledge, but we should start one! A sort of FAQL
>>for this newsgroup.
>>
>That's an idea that I'm toying with myself. Frequently, people will ask:
>
>What are the greys? Where do they come from? What IS a "grey"? etc,ect..
>
>Hmmmmmm...I'll get to work on some parts..maybe you could work on something
>too?
I'd like to do something of the sort, but I really don't know how much to
do. For example, I don't want to end up writing a comprehensive history of
alien/human interaction in the 20th century.
If I think of anything, I'll post it. Let's see, we've already defined
"grey" and "Nord." We probably need a list of crash/retrieval cases
(again, *briefly*), "What is MJ-12/MAJI/MAJIC/Majority/Majestic?", "Who are
the Pleiadians?" (this is *not* my favorite area, and probably wouldn't get
favorable treatment from me), who are Lear, Cooper, English, Grace,
Bennewitz, Lazar, Walters, Meier, etc.
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From: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: ufo encounter
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Date: 14 Jul 91 17:29:48 GMT
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What you have written is the basic extent of my knowledge on the subject,
save for a few recent developments. For future reference, this is called
the Cash/Landrum case. It was covered on "Unsolved Mysteries" this year,
and on "That's Incredible". Otherwise it doesn't seem to get a lot of
press, which is unbelievable because it's one of the most shocking accounts
that is actually credible enough to not be rejected outright.
The recent developments of which I spoke concern its coverage on "UFO
Coverup Live!" a few years ago in which the victims were told that it was a
recovered craft being flown by our government, and an incident last year or
the year before in which one of the victims placed a full-page ad in a Gulf
Breeze, Fla. newspaper saying that the aliens are Satanic and a menace to
the human race.
There has been speculation, of course, that it was a nuclear-powered
aircraft developed by our own government. Stanton Friedman has said that
we had such a program at one time. But it was supposed to have been
cancelled long before the Cash/Landrum incident, and I don't think the
government would have been stupid enough to fly something like that around
in the open.
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From: jofre@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (Carlos Jofre)
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Subject: Re: That Face on Mars!!!
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Date: 15 Jul 91 13:50:28 GMT
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In article <1991Jul11.223743.1669@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU>, woodc@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Chris Wood) writes...
>In article <15481@vpk2.UUCP> craig@vpk2.ATT.COM (Craig Campbell) writes:
>>What about those pictograms scattered about? You know, the bugs etched into
>>the desert or some such thing. Of course there are those who argue that
>>aliens created these as well.
>>
>>Go figure...
>>
>>craig
>
> I meant structures which were built/carved to honor a leader, etc... All
>these man made structures such as the carvings in Mount Rushmore, or statues
>such as the Statue of Liberty are built facing horizontally. I do not agree
>with what many people say about the designs of insects and animals drawn in
>the ground. ... [STUFF DELETED]
Has anyone else thought that maybe the face might at one point been
upright but after thousands or even miilion of years of erotion
finally came to rest where it is now? Kind of like a Muai from
Easter Island falling on its back after a catastrophic storm...
Just a thought...
Carlos Jofre
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From: mcripps@sodium.att.com (16AW20000[ehs]-Mike Cripps(HO0000)T100)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: ufo encounter
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In article <jms.5143@vanth.UUCP>, jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
> There has been speculation, of course, that it was a nuclear-powered
> aircraft developed by our own government. Stanton Friedman has said that
> we had such a program at one time. But it was supposed to have been
> cancelled long before the Cash/Landrum incident, and I don't think the
> government would have been stupid enough to fly something like that around
> in the open.
Here's some more wild speculation, with little basis in fact...
Last time I read about X-ray lasers (being studied for SDI), the idea was
to blow up a nuke to generate the energy to pump the lasing element. The
problem is that the whole thing is destroyed in the process. Now, I seem
to recall that they had successfully tested an X-ray laser a few years ago
(I believe this was from a N.Y. Times article, and possibly some TV program
that showed the effects, i.e., a big hole being melted in the ground).
Could it be possible that they have devised a device that uses a controlled
nuclear reaction to pump the laser element, and that the melted asphalt
was the result of the beam? I agree it would be stupid to fly something like
this around, but we *are* talking about the govt. here :-)
End of wild speculation...
Mike Cripps
mcripps@sodium.att.com
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From: billy@anasaz.UUCP (Bill Moore)
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Subject: Re: About Roswell and the Govt. Coverup
Message-ID: <4494@anasaz.UUCP>
Date: 15 Jul 91 17:07:30 GMT
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In article <1991Jul12.000115.6189@bilver.uucp> dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
]>In article <4480@anasaz.UUCP> billy@anasaz.UUCP (Bill Moore) writes:
]>>In article <316@jabaru.oz.au> 00195@tanus.oz.au (Brian Evans) writes:
]>>>
]>>>johnr@systech.bjorn.COM (John Reed) writes:
]>>>>I am not an expert in UFO-ology (or whatever it's called), but to
]>>>>me, as a layman, the evidence seems overwhelming that a crash happened
]>>>>at Roswell, and UFO's are definitely for real.
]>>
]>>What evidence do you know about that supports the crashed UFO claim? Aside
]>>from flimsy hearsay statements, as far as I know, there has been nothing. We
]>>know something happened in Roswell and that its a military secret, there's
]>>ample proof of that. But how do you get from military secret to UFO?
]>>
]>>... stuff deleted ...
]>
]>Mr Moore..it is plenty obvious to me that you haven't got a bloody clue!
]>
]>Go get some books and do your research!!
]>
I have read the book, Don, and, FYI, many, many more. I've got books, video
tapes, reports, etc., I've been to sites and have interviewed witnesses like
Lazar, etal. But you're right about me not having a clue. I couldn't tell
you what's going on but I do know its not little green men from another
planet who fly around the universe in UFOs. I claim there is _NO_ evidence
to support this conclusion.
]>I would most heartily recommend the Randle/Schmitt book, "UFO Crash
]>at Roswell" that just came out in paperback and published by AVON
]>books.
Why? What do you think Randle and Schmitt added to this? We already knew
something happened out there and its a military secret. Randle and Schmitt
added more evidence but we don't need any more evidence about the military
coverup. What we need is more about the alleged UFO crash.
Randle and Schmitt added new second hand hearsay from an unnamed source but
I found it flimsy. Is this what impressed you? Marcel's testimonty isn't
new (I've had the tape for years) and neither is LaPaz's. Is there anything
else? What do you think is the most compelling testimony or evidence in
this case? (Not the military coverup part, the UFO part.)
--Bill--
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From: dingbat@cix.compulink.co.uk (Codesmiths)
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Subject: Re: ufo encounter
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In-Reply-To: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer)
I know very little about the US nuclear aircraft program, but it
certainly did exist. It was a typical Cold-War Strangelove idea, to
have a long duration nuclear bomber fleet continuously airborne, just
outside Warpac airspace.
There were two aspects to the program:
Up to 17 prototype nuclear aircraft engines were produced during
1957 - 1961. Air was passed through a reactor & heated, forming a
jet engine. 2 are still in existence, at the Idaho Falls National
Engineering Laboratory. They were tested on ground based test
stands (the exhaust was vented through a vertical chimney), but
never flew. Over a billion dollars were spent on the program,
before it was axed by JFK.
A B36 variant, the B36H, flew with an on-board reactor. It was
operated in flight on several occasions. I don't know if this
reactor was one of the jet engine reactors, but no thrust wasa
ever produced. Photos of this aircraft, together with its
attendant shielded servicing vehicles may be found in a commonly
available book. I don't have accurate title, or ISBN, but it's
something like "Aero engines of the world" & most aviation
bookshops have it.
Technical problems made nuclear aircraft unworkable (then), and
eventually the program was overtaken by the ICBM.
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From: ameij@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: About Roswell And The Govt. Coverup
Message-ID: <1991Jul15.120901.1089@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Date: 15 Jul 91 11:09:00 GMT
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In article <72286.287DE18B@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>, Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) writes:
>
> I would just about bet that there is a lot of technology which we are becoming
> very familiar with that could have been gleaned from research such as the
> crash of 1947.
>
Well, it's certainly looking as if they took the cold fusion recipe down
wrongly...
Love and kisses,
Jan
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From: ameij@vax.oxford.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: what about the last 44 years ?READ/NEW
Message-ID: <1991Jul15.121750.1091@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Date: 15 Jul 91 11:17:49 GMT
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In article <jms.5137@vanth.UUCP>, jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
> There have allegedly been other crashes since Roswell.
>
> ...
>
> There were (allegedly) a few more in the west in the '40s and (I think)
> '50s, and one in Pennsylvania in the '60s. There are also *extremely*
> dubious stories of very recent crashes in Canada and South Africa.
>
For beings who can traverse the unimaginable vastness of space (albeit in order
mainly to dance in cornfields and take teach-yourself-abattoir-skills courses)
they really don't seem to competant at landing, do they?
Jan
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