SS2 SECRET SHADOW MOVE FAQ
SS2 SECRET SHADOW MOVE FAQ v.1.7 (so I lied)
Basically, this is just a collection of rumors and hearsay that
may or may not be true at this point, including all the info on the known
shadow moves. Put together because it interests me for some reason. Whee.
- Damone <damone@ios.com>
Because people have been bugging me for it, it is now at
ftp.netcom.com /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs.
WHAT'S THIS GONNA INCLUDE?
WHAT'S NEW NOW?
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE?
WHAT IS A SECRET SHADOW MOVE?
WELL, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO FROM?
HEY, I SAW THIS REALLY WEIRD MOVE, AND...
WELL, WHAT ARE THE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
HOW DO I FIND SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
WHO DO YOU WANT TO THANK?
WHAT'S NEW NOW?
This new version (1.7) just has some updated info from my own
experiences and some new stuff posted on rec.games.video.arcade about
newly discovered moves. Plus a possible move fro Ukyo. And I alphabetized
things. Enough to justify another addition. So I said the last one was
it. Sue me. It's archived now, too.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE?
Well, I'm making an offshoot to the Tapfaq at the moment. There
have been a lot of rumors and the such about the Secret Shadow Moves and
stuff like that, so I decided to start this thing as a clearing house for
information about these things. When all of them are found, and while
info for it comes in, I want to turn it all back to the Tapfaq where it
belongs. Until then, don't sell this, but distribute it anywhere you like
for free.
WHAT IS A SECRET SHADOW MOVE?
Apparently, in SS2, there are undocumented (i.e. not listed on
the game or in the manuals) attacks that can be performed that do
incredible things and/or damage. They have only been discovered for
certain players, but there have been enough of them to substantiate the
idea that every character has at least one.
The stories go that they can only be performed when the POW bar
is full and they are alternates to the POW Special Moves each character
has, and others that say they can be performed at any time. Information
is extremely sketchy. Major consensus seems to be that these are moves
that can be performed anytime, and the current discovered moves bear this
out, but rumors that there are some connected to the POW bar still exist.
WELL, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO FROM?
Good question. For solid evidence, I picked out the moves that
had already been discovered and documented in the Tapfaq v.4.0, edited by
Shawn Holmes <shawnh@qb.island.net>. Those moves are reproduced here. I
wanted to get the information straight on these secret shadow moves
because they interest me, and, hey, it may save Shawn some work.
As far as blind speculation, I basically picked it all out of the
posts on rec.games.video.arcade concerning strange attacks that have been
posted so far. In addition to unconfirmed info about the soundtrack and
morf features, I have taken reports about moves from posts. The 'proof'
of these attacks range from 'having seen the computer pull it off,' to 'I
saw someone do it,' to 'I heard someone say they saw this.' Bottom line:
if a normal faq follows the scientific method, this is old-school alchemy
at its best. DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING HERE AT FACE VALUE.
HEY, I SAW THIS REALLY WEIRD MOVE, AND...
Cool. Mail me about it at damone@ios.com. Everything will be
compiled as I get it and as my health holds out. If you have anything
that fills in any of the blanks here (or, more to the point, connects the
vast chasms between actual facts), drop me a line. If you've heard rumors
of a move, thought you saw a move, have the actual move itself, etc, etc,
mail me.
WELL, WHAT ARE THE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Form:
CHARACTER: (* Denotes move info taken from Tapfaq v.4.0)
SECRET SHADOW MOVE / DESCRIPTION
JOYSTICK PATTERN (if known)
CHAM CHAM:
Tam Tam's Revenge: Apparently Paku Paku turns back to Tam Tam and Cham
Cham turns into a monkey, and you can play as Tam Tam for a while.
No move info
CHARLOTTE:
Super Power Gradiation: Charlotte tosses a rose in front of her and
performs multiple power gradiations through it.
-O | \ | / | + BCD OR - O | \ O - + BCD
O O O O O O O
(Movement unconfirmed)
EARTHQUAKE:
No move info (May be Ninja Fat Bomb)
GALFORD: *
Ninja Invisibility: Turns invisible, reappearing only to perform moves.
Full reappearance occurs when opponent touches, or after a short time.
-O O- -O O- | + BCD
O
GEN-AN:
No move info (May be Alternate Shredder)
GENJURO:
Super Card Slash: Apparently Genjuro appears to be performing his POW
super move when many cards come out, performing over 5 back and forth
card slashes.
No move info
HANZO: *
Ninja Invisibility: Turns invisible, reappearing only to perform moves.
Full reappearance occurs when opponent touches, or after 10-12 seconds.
-O O- -O O- | + BCD
O
HAOHMARU: *
Super Kogetsuzan Rush: Leaps into the air doing multiple Kogetsuzans
\ O- / | \ -O O- | / + BC
O O O O O O
JUBEI:
No move info
KYOSHIRO:
No move info
NAKORURU: *
Apefuchi Kamui Rymuse: Performs three quick Kamui Ryuse and finishes by
sending out a "shadow" of Falcon, allowing for four consecutive hits (if
close to opponent).
\ | / O- -O | \ + BC
O O O O O
NICOTINE:
No move info
SIEGER:
Machine Gun: Apparently Sieger fires his cannon arm repeatedly for
mega-damage. Another about a throw that takes him off-screen. First
sounds suspiciously like the Vulcan Explosion, and the second like either
his air throw or his back-breaker combo.
No move info
UKYO:
Teleport Slash: Apparently Ukyo 'teleports' to the other side of the
screen in his POW frame performing an upward slash.
/ | \ -o | \ + BC
o o o o o
(Movement Unconfirmed)
WAN FU:
No move info
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Whelp, it goes something a little like this:
- The Soundtrack: Every move and character in the game is
represented on the soundtrack, even the Secret Shadow Moves listed here
and Kuroko. If there are any more moves or characters (alla Tam Tam),
they must not use any additional sounds, but re-use other sounds. This is
not likely.
- The Test Feature: Apparently there is a test morph feature for
the game that lets the game owner test all the characters. This function
includes Kuroko, but not Tam Tam, or any other character.
- The 'Protagonist Attacks': Apparently someone who knows someone
at the game company says that the Shadow Attacks that exist already are
'Protagonist Attacks,' special attacks only for the 'heroes' of the game:
Hoah, Nak, Galford, and Hanzo. They are the only ones to get them.
- Weather Balloons Are Not UFOs: There are some glitches and bugs
in the game that make it do weird things sometimes, but they are not
special moves. As in most UFO sightings, most of the people who saw these
things were just imagining it anyway or just saw some documented special
attack they never saw before.
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Whelp, it goes something like this:
- Screw The Soundtrack And Test Feature: No matter how unlikely
it is, there could be special moves for the other players that either
re-use sounds already on the soundtrack, or on tracks hidden in the
soundtrack. Ditto the Test Feature. PLUS, the secret shadow moves that
exist already, are additions to other moves, and some do not USE
different sounds anyway. For example, Nak's is an extension of her hawk
strike, Hoah's is a multiple Kogetsuzan, and Hanzo and Galford's
invisibility is an extension of their ninja teleports in that they just
stay 'gone.' SO, the secret shadow moves for the others characters are
extensions of other moves, and don't NEED new sounds.
- 'Protagonist' My Ass: Nak, Hoah, Galford, and Hanzo, while
being more involved in the 'plot' of the game than the others, are by no
means the only 'good guys' in it. And if it is for the people in those
story lines, why shouldn't Genjuro, Ukyo, or Nicotine have one,
considering their connection to Haoh's storyline? And while there are
DEFINATELY some bad guys (Gen-an, Earthquake, etc), there are definately
other good guys (Nicotine, Cham Cham, etc), as well as those of dubious
morality (Kyoshiro, Sieger, etc.) What about them? Why screw up game
balance by giving super-powerful special attacks to characters who in no
way need them? And if the good guys get attacks, why not the villains as
well?
- It WAS a spaceship from Venus!: Many clearly sane people, who
have played the game for a long time, have SEEN the moves that they claim
with their own eyes, and they did appear to be bugs (How do you mistake
seeing Tam Tam?). Some people have even PERFORMED the moves themselves.
And there is the enough ambiguity to allow the possibility of these moves
being reality.
HOW DO I FIND SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Still convinced that more moves exist? Well, take a look at what
we have already. It seems that all the Secret Shadow moves all have
button combos that have both slash and kick button involved (usually BC),
along with complex and unusual joystick movements. All of it is in some
ways akin to the Super Deformed transformations (weird joystick
movements/button combos). Also, all of the moves seem to have some sort
of 'shadow' component. Haoh and Nak have 'shadows' of themselves trailing
behind them as they perform their moves, while Hanzo and Galford turn
INTO 'shadows.' Also, for more moves to exist at this point and defy the
arguments against it, they are probably just extensions of moves the
characters already have (see the examples of Charlotte and Genjuro). So
go out, do weird things with the joystick, and hit slash and kick at the
same time.
WHO DO YOU WANT TO THANK?
Well, first off again, Shawn Holmes <shawnh@qb.island.net>,
editor of the Tapfaq v.4.0, for use of some of the moves from the Tapfaq.
I'd also like to thank all the posters who I borrowed from. If
you wish to be recognized for your info, please drop me a line and you
will be included, and accept my apologies ahead of time.
If you have any info, complaints, etc, drop me a line at
damone@ios.com. Thanks again.
Damone
<damone@ios.com>
Basically, this is just a collection of rumors and hearsay that
may or may not be true at this point, including all the info on the known
shadow moves. Put together because it interests me for some reason. Whee.
- Damone <damone@ios.com>
Because people have been bugging me for it, it is now at
ftp.netcom.com /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs.
WHAT'S THIS GONNA INCLUDE?
WHAT'S NEW NOW?
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE?
WHAT IS A SECRET SHADOW MOVE?
WELL, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO FROM?
HEY, I SAW THIS REALLY WEIRD MOVE, AND...
WELL, WHAT ARE THE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
HOW DO I FIND SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
WHO DO YOU WANT TO THANK?
WHAT'S NEW NOW?
This new version (1.7) just has some updated info from my own
experiences and some new stuff posted on rec.games.video.arcade about
newly discovered moves. Plus a possible move fro Ukyo. And I alphabetized
things. Enough to justify another addition. So I said the last one was
it. Sue me. It's archived now, too.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE?
Well, I'm making an offshoot to the Tapfaq at the moment. There
have been a lot of rumors and the such about the Secret Shadow Moves and
stuff like that, so I decided to start this thing as a clearing house for
information about these things. When all of them are found, and while
info for it comes in, I want to turn it all back to the Tapfaq where it
belongs. Until then, don't sell this, but distribute it anywhere you like
for free.
WHAT IS A SECRET SHADOW MOVE?
Apparently, in SS2, there are undocumented (i.e. not listed on
the game or in the manuals) attacks that can be performed that do
incredible things and/or damage. They have only been discovered for
certain players, but there have been enough of them to substantiate the
idea that every character has at least one.
The stories go that they can only be performed when the POW bar
is full and they are alternates to the POW Special Moves each character
has, and others that say they can be performed at any time. Information
is extremely sketchy. Major consensus seems to be that these are moves
that can be performed anytime, and the current discovered moves bear this
out, but rumors that there are some connected to the POW bar still exist.
WELL, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO FROM?
Good question. For solid evidence, I picked out the moves that
had already been discovered and documented in the Tapfaq v.4.0, edited by
Shawn Holmes <shawnh@qb.island.net>. Those moves are reproduced here. I
wanted to get the information straight on these secret shadow moves
because they interest me, and, hey, it may save Shawn some work.
As far as blind speculation, I basically picked it all out of the
posts on rec.games.video.arcade concerning strange attacks that have been
posted so far. In addition to unconfirmed info about the soundtrack and
morf features, I have taken reports about moves from posts. The 'proof'
of these attacks range from 'having seen the computer pull it off,' to 'I
saw someone do it,' to 'I heard someone say they saw this.' Bottom line:
if a normal faq follows the scientific method, this is old-school alchemy
at its best. DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING HERE AT FACE VALUE.
HEY, I SAW THIS REALLY WEIRD MOVE, AND...
Cool. Mail me about it at damone@ios.com. Everything will be
compiled as I get it and as my health holds out. If you have anything
that fills in any of the blanks here (or, more to the point, connects the
vast chasms between actual facts), drop me a line. If you've heard rumors
of a move, thought you saw a move, have the actual move itself, etc, etc,
mail me.
WELL, WHAT ARE THE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Form:
CHARACTER: (* Denotes move info taken from Tapfaq v.4.0)
SECRET SHADOW MOVE / DESCRIPTION
JOYSTICK PATTERN (if known)
CHAM CHAM:
Tam Tam's Revenge: Apparently Paku Paku turns back to Tam Tam and Cham
Cham turns into a monkey, and you can play as Tam Tam for a while.
No move info
CHARLOTTE:
Super Power Gradiation: Charlotte tosses a rose in front of her and
performs multiple power gradiations through it.
-O | \ | / | + BCD OR - O | \ O - + BCD
O O O O O O O
(Movement unconfirmed)
EARTHQUAKE:
No move info (May be Ninja Fat Bomb)
GALFORD: *
Ninja Invisibility: Turns invisible, reappearing only to perform moves.
Full reappearance occurs when opponent touches, or after a short time.
-O O- -O O- | + BCD
O
GEN-AN:
No move info (May be Alternate Shredder)
GENJURO:
Super Card Slash: Apparently Genjuro appears to be performing his POW
super move when many cards come out, performing over 5 back and forth
card slashes.
No move info
HANZO: *
Ninja Invisibility: Turns invisible, reappearing only to perform moves.
Full reappearance occurs when opponent touches, or after 10-12 seconds.
-O O- -O O- | + BCD
O
HAOHMARU: *
Super Kogetsuzan Rush: Leaps into the air doing multiple Kogetsuzans
\ O- / | \ -O O- | / + BC
O O O O O O
JUBEI:
No move info
KYOSHIRO:
No move info
NAKORURU: *
Apefuchi Kamui Rymuse: Performs three quick Kamui Ryuse and finishes by
sending out a "shadow" of Falcon, allowing for four consecutive hits (if
close to opponent).
\ | / O- -O | \ + BC
O O O O O
NICOTINE:
No move info
SIEGER:
Machine Gun: Apparently Sieger fires his cannon arm repeatedly for
mega-damage. Another about a throw that takes him off-screen. First
sounds suspiciously like the Vulcan Explosion, and the second like either
his air throw or his back-breaker combo.
No move info
UKYO:
Teleport Slash: Apparently Ukyo 'teleports' to the other side of the
screen in his POW frame performing an upward slash.
/ | \ -o | \ + BC
o o o o o
(Movement Unconfirmed)
WAN FU:
No move info
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Whelp, it goes something a little like this:
- The Soundtrack: Every move and character in the game is
represented on the soundtrack, even the Secret Shadow Moves listed here
and Kuroko. If there are any more moves or characters (alla Tam Tam),
they must not use any additional sounds, but re-use other sounds. This is
not likely.
- The Test Feature: Apparently there is a test morph feature for
the game that lets the game owner test all the characters. This function
includes Kuroko, but not Tam Tam, or any other character.
- The 'Protagonist Attacks': Apparently someone who knows someone
at the game company says that the Shadow Attacks that exist already are
'Protagonist Attacks,' special attacks only for the 'heroes' of the game:
Hoah, Nak, Galford, and Hanzo. They are the only ones to get them.
- Weather Balloons Are Not UFOs: There are some glitches and bugs
in the game that make it do weird things sometimes, but they are not
special moves. As in most UFO sightings, most of the people who saw these
things were just imagining it anyway or just saw some documented special
attack they never saw before.
WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR THERE BEING ANY MORE SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Whelp, it goes something like this:
- Screw The Soundtrack And Test Feature: No matter how unlikely
it is, there could be special moves for the other players that either
re-use sounds already on the soundtrack, or on tracks hidden in the
soundtrack. Ditto the Test Feature. PLUS, the secret shadow moves that
exist already, are additions to other moves, and some do not USE
different sounds anyway. For example, Nak's is an extension of her hawk
strike, Hoah's is a multiple Kogetsuzan, and Hanzo and Galford's
invisibility is an extension of their ninja teleports in that they just
stay 'gone.' SO, the secret shadow moves for the others characters are
extensions of other moves, and don't NEED new sounds.
- 'Protagonist' My Ass: Nak, Hoah, Galford, and Hanzo, while
being more involved in the 'plot' of the game than the others, are by no
means the only 'good guys' in it. And if it is for the people in those
story lines, why shouldn't Genjuro, Ukyo, or Nicotine have one,
considering their connection to Haoh's storyline? And while there are
DEFINATELY some bad guys (Gen-an, Earthquake, etc), there are definately
other good guys (Nicotine, Cham Cham, etc), as well as those of dubious
morality (Kyoshiro, Sieger, etc.) What about them? Why screw up game
balance by giving super-powerful special attacks to characters who in no
way need them? And if the good guys get attacks, why not the villains as
well?
- It WAS a spaceship from Venus!: Many clearly sane people, who
have played the game for a long time, have SEEN the moves that they claim
with their own eyes, and they did appear to be bugs (How do you mistake
seeing Tam Tam?). Some people have even PERFORMED the moves themselves.
And there is the enough ambiguity to allow the possibility of these moves
being reality.
HOW DO I FIND SECRET SHADOW MOVES?
Still convinced that more moves exist? Well, take a look at what
we have already. It seems that all the Secret Shadow moves all have
button combos that have both slash and kick button involved (usually BC),
along with complex and unusual joystick movements. All of it is in some
ways akin to the Super Deformed transformations (weird joystick
movements/button combos). Also, all of the moves seem to have some sort
of 'shadow' component. Haoh and Nak have 'shadows' of themselves trailing
behind them as they perform their moves, while Hanzo and Galford turn
INTO 'shadows.' Also, for more moves to exist at this point and defy the
arguments against it, they are probably just extensions of moves the
characters already have (see the examples of Charlotte and Genjuro). So
go out, do weird things with the joystick, and hit slash and kick at the
same time.
WHO DO YOU WANT TO THANK?
Well, first off again, Shawn Holmes <shawnh@qb.island.net>,
editor of the Tapfaq v.4.0, for use of some of the moves from the Tapfaq.
I'd also like to thank all the posters who I borrowed from. If
you wish to be recognized for your info, please drop me a line and you
will be included, and accept my apologies ahead of time.
If you have any info, complaints, etc, drop me a line at
damone@ios.com. Thanks again.
Damone
<damone@ios.com>
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