Public Domain software
PUBDOMN has 26 messages, last updated on 07-30-1986
1: Contents of the PUBDOMN Topic 11-11-1983 IBM
The purpose of this topic is to discuss issues related to public domain
software. How your group gets it, how you distribute it, what standards
you have for approving it for distribution, formats for documentation, etc.
2: Text Mode Display Compatibility 03-09-1984 BOB KRUGGEL
(This message was re-printed from the March issue of EXCHANGE)
Bob Kruggel
Burlington Vermont Users Group
If you are writing software that is supposed to run with either
the monochrome or graphics display, be aware of some significant
differences between these adapters and how they interpret the
color command. Listed below are the meanings of the foreground
color for the displays.
FORGRND DISPLAY TYPE
COLOR MONO GRAPHICS
0 WHITE BLACK
1 UNDERLINED BLUE
2 WHITE GREEN
3 WHITE CYAN
4 WHITE RED
5 WHITE MAGENTA
6 WHITE BROWN
7 BRIGHT WHITE WHITE
8 BRT UNDLINED GRAY
9 BRIGHT WHITE LT BLUE
10 BRIGHT WHITE LT GREEN
11 BRIGHT WHITE LT CYAN
12 BRIGHT WHITE LT RED
13 BRIGHT WHITE LT MAGENTA
14 BRIGHT WHITE YELLOW
15 BRIGHT WHITE BRT WHITE
Add 16 to the foreground color for blinking on both display
types.
Try to envision what your program will look like on the other
type of display, especially note that there is no underline on
the graphics adapter.
If you are poking directly to the display memory, test for the
type of display being used and adjust your segment accordingly,
as shown below.
DEF SEG=0
SEGTYPE=(PEEK(&H410) AND (&H30)
IF SEGTYPE>32 THEN SEGMENT=&HB000:
ELSE SEGMENT=&HB800
DEF SEG=SEGMENT
Not only will these recommendations make your software useable on
both types of adapters, it will make a user group library
committee's job a lot easier.
3: Boca Distribution of User Group Librarys05-11-1984 KEN HARRISON
Is the Boca user group support function planning on distributing
user group public domain software to other user groups. Are we
allowed to upload our public domain programs so that other user
groups can download them on this TIE?
The next message is:
4: Distribution of Public Domain Software 05-14-1984 USER GROUP SUPPORT
Ken:
No, we do not plan on being able to distribute programs, nor even
lists of programs. We are staying out of this area due to the diff-
iculty in actually determining just what is public domain.
The only activity in this area will be possibly putting together
a document which describes how user groups can best determine what pro-
grams are public domain. If your group has such a guideline please
contribute it here.
Mark Chance IBM User Group Support
The next message is:
5: Are You Sure Its Public Domain? 06-06-1984 KEN HARRISON
I would like to hear from other user groups to see how they make sure
that a peice of software is public domain before they put it in their
library. Sometimes I get the feeling that the attitude is that it
would
be more trouble than it is worth to sue so just put it in anyway and
take it out if anybody starts making noise. Is that in fact the mode
of operation in any club or are you all sure that your programs are
public domain?
The next message is:
6: PC/BLUE PUBLIC DOMAIN Library 11-19-1984 SOL LIBES
The Amateur Computer Group of New Jersey and New York Amateur
Computer Club jointly operate the PC/BLUE Public Domain Software
Library. It currently contains close to 90 disks. For a copy of
the printed catalog listing the contents of all the volumes send
$3 ($4 foreign) to PC/BLUE, Box 97, Iselin NJ 08830.
Clubs who wish to automatically receive new releases, as
issued, call or write: Bob Todd, 1121 Briarwood, Bensalem PA 19020;
(215)752-4604.
Individuals can order the disks from NYACC, Box 106, Church
Street Station, NY NY 1008, or call: (212)864-4595. Disks are $6
postpaid (foreign add $3/order).
The next message is:
7: PD determination of files 11-27-1984 VIC BACHULIS
Greetings: In answer to your question, I determine what is public doman
(domain) and what is not by several methods:
1) Is it in general use?
2) Are there ANY copyright notices and/or restrictions stated in the
physical program itself (yes, this sometimes requires disassembling
the code to look)?
3) Is it listed in any of the numerous catalogs of PD software?
4) I consult other sysops (yes, I am a sysop. Fido 59 in Beaverton,
Oregon, 1-503-629-5581) about the program
5) Have I seen it on other boards either locally or around the
country?
If none of the above items answers that all-important question, I
sometimes have to make a judgement call about a program. A bit
risky, but usually there isn't much of a problem in determining
if a program is PD or not. Hope that helps.
Vic Bachulis, Sysop, Fido 59
Portland IBM PC Users' Group
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8: PD software master list ??? 01-02-1985 DOUG WINDHAM
I agree with Vic's comments on how to identify PD software.
At this point there is no 100% sure way to tell.
Now I have a question. How can you catalog effectively all
of the public domain software that is available. I noticed
PC BLUE is at about 90 disks now, which would be hundreds
of programs. Some of which are excellent, some are not so
valuable. How do you know which are good, bad, and so-so
, much less what they all do ?? Anybody got any great ideas
Doug Windham
Disk Librarian
North Texas IBM PC User Group
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9: PD SOFTWARE 01-03-1985 E TAMPASIS
I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE NOTICE ON PD SOFTWARE.I'M PRESIDENT OF THE DECAT
UR IBM CLUB IN DECATUR.IL WE'RE NEW TO THE CLUB BUSINESS BUT WE ARE
OFFERING PD SOFTWARE TO OUR MEMBERS.WE BUY THIS SOFTWARE FROM CALF.
C-SIG WE'VE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS YET THEY PUBLISH A MONTHLY
LETT AND KEEP YOU UPDATED ON NEW PD SOFTWARE.I BELIEVE THIS APPROCH MIG
HT BE A BETTER WAY TO PD SOFTWARE.THEY WATCH WHAT THEY PUT OUT.
******************************************
E.A.TAMPASIS
DECATUR,IL
PRESIDENT DECATUR IBM/COMPATIBLES CLUB
***************************************
The next message is:
10: PD SW cataloging and how to do it. 01-16-1985 VIC BACHULIS
Doug -- In response to your query, here is how <I> intend to do it
when I get the time (!)........First off, depending on how your library
is set up, you should probably do a DIR > MASTDIR for EACH AND EVERY
DISK.........Once having done this, go through and mark off each direct
ory listing by volume number. Then, clear out the info about date and
time and file-size using something like PC-WRITE or some editor that wi
ll handle BIG ASCII files. Set up two columns: One for the PROGNAME.EX
T and one for an identifier code. For volume 1 this might be 1A. Go
through and put this code next to each program listed in the DIR for
the first volume. Then go through and do it for the second volume and
third, etc, like so:
PROGNAME.EXT IDENTIFIER
-------------------------
VOLUME 1, COMM SW
=========================
HOSTCALL.EXE 1A
HOSTCALX.EXE 1A
-------------------------
VOLUME 2, BBS STUFF
=========================
PCRBBS.EXE 2B
CONFIG.EXE 2B
Once you have done this, take out ALL the headers so you have nothing l
left except the filename.ext and the identifier:
HOSTCALL.EXE 1A
HOSTCALX.EXE 1A
PCRBBS.EXE 2B
CONFIG.EXE 2B
Then, pipe this baby through SORT or some such program. This way,
you'll be able to find the duplicates relatively easily as well as
have a sorted list of ALL files within your library and be able to
tell what disk exactly a file resides on. I hope this is some help
to you. Let me know. Vic
The next message is:
11: Distribution of BASRUN.EXE 01-23-1985 DOUG WINDHAM
TO: IBM USER GROUP SUPPORT
Is it against IBM policy to distribute BASRUN.EXE with a compiled
BASIC program. I received a donation to our club, but it requires
the BASIC runtime program BASRUN.EXE. The person donating the
program included a copy, but I will not distribute it until I
hear from IBM that it is OK.
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12: BASRUN.EXE POLICY 01-24-1985 USER GROUP SUPPORT
The following paragraph is taken from page 4 of the BASIC
Compiler manual.
Application programs which require the BASRUN.EXE
runtime module cannot be distributed without entering
into a license agreement with IBM. A copy of the license
agreement can be obtained by writing to IBM at: P.O. Box
1328-P Boca Raton, FL 33432. Note, however, that it is
possible to develop programs with the BASIC Compiler which
do not use the BASRUN.EXE runtime module, and therefore
don't require the license agreement.
If you compile with the /O option, this tells the compiler to
compile the program so that it does not use the runtime module.
User Group Support
The next message is:
13: PD TESTING PROGRAM BY PCUG OF LICA 02-16-1985 ARTHUR SKOPEC
Though there is no single complete listing of PD programs at this
time, one is in the process of being written. My User Group is
working with the author to review some 300 disks that have been
acquired from other User Group libraries and BBS around the country.
This project will result in a collection of standardized reviews of
included programs along with information on the hardware requirements
to run particular programs. Programs will also be broken down by
categories and their ease of use, utility etc. will be noted.
The next message is:
14: GETTING PD FOR NEW USER GROUP 02-24-1986 GENE SAILSBURY
I WOULD LIKE SOME INPUT ON GETTING PD SOFTWARE FOR OUR NEW USER GROUP.
WOULD SOME OF YOU GIVE ME HINTS. OUR USER GROUP (SOUTHEAST KANSAS PC
USER GROUP) SEKPCUG, HAS VERY LIMITED FUNDS AT THIS TIME BUT WE WOULD
LIKE TO START A PD LIBRARY SOON. WE HAVE DOWNLOADED FROM OTHER BBS BUT
THIS COST A LOT OF MONEY. PLEASE LEAVE ME A NOTE. THANK YOU. ALSO WE
ARE IN NEED OF SOME NEWSLETTERS IF ANYONE HAS SOME TO SEND TO US.
GENE SAILSBURY
206 SOUTH WALNUT
PITTSBURG,KANSAS 66762
PRES. SEKPCUG
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15: PD Vs. Shareware. 03-03-1986 MATT HALL
...R...
TO:Anyone knowledgable
Recently a member asked a very intriguing question. "What is the
difference between public domain software and software that is
entitled 'shareware'?"
I have read over a hundred software licensing agreements and have
not been able to come to a conclusion about the difference. Could
someone who is more knowledgable than I am please inform me of
this discrepency?
Thank you,
Matt J Hall
President Manatee PC User's Group
3209 20th Ave. W.
Bradenton,Fl. 33505
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16: Shareware vs Public domain 03-05-1986 RALPH JENSEN
My thoughts on the differences between Public domian software are;
Public domain software is software given to the computer user
community with no charge asked for or charged for the software.
Shareware or 'User Supported' is given freely for distribution by any
means( copy freely, BBS downloadable, etc.) But, the author asks the
user to send a donation to him for his work on developing the
software. Shareware is a way of distributing the software. I hope this
helps clear up your questions.
Ralph Jensen
TC/PC Users Group
P.O. Box 3163
Minneapolis, MN 55403
The next message is:
17: Trojan Horse 03-08-1986 DON SINGLETON
WARNING - WARNING - WARNING All PC users! Beware of a new
Trojan Horse program making the rounds on bulletin board
systems on the West Coast. The latest is called ARC600.EXE,
what it does is format every available drive on a system.
The current release version of the legitimate ARChive
program is version 5.12. --This warning copied from a
message on cis that Rob Blaine said he found on the CTSA
board in Austin, TX.
The next message is:
18: Copyright Notice VS. Public Domain 03-14-1986 BOB HERALD
Some software that I would call Public Domain (ARC, i.e.), has a
copyright notice but does not expressly ask for money unless the
user is a corporation or the U.S. Government. It also is in wide
distribution. If it was a "part" it could not be patented. Would
you consider it Public Domain Software? I just pulled out my
copy of the documentation - it states that I am granted a limited
license to use, copy, and distribute it as long as I don't
charge for it or change it. Do you consider it PD?
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19: PD Software with copyright notice 04-01-1986 BRENT AVERA
As long as the license agreeement states that you can use and
distribute the software freely as long as you don't charge and as long
as you are not a Corp. or the US Govt I would consider that Public
domain software. The intent by the author seems to be to get the
software into the hands of the public freely without those who can
afford to pay (corps and govt) distributing the program around their
companies or offices.
It mkes sense that corps and the govt can afford to and should pay for
programs that they use.
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20: Looking for P.D. IBM-Sig software 04-21-1986 DWAYNE FORSYTH
I'm with the Michigan Tech PCUG, we curently have disk 200 through 360
of the PC-SIG. We are looking for user groups who we can trade
software to add to our colection. We would like to stick with only
PC-Sig disk until we have the whole thing (We also know that software
in the IBM-SIG is public Domain, because we are a student organization
at a University, the school is having us prove that the software in
lib. is legal to trade.
Michigan Tech
Dwayne Forsyth MTPCUG
President MTPCUG ACS Mailbox
(906)-487-1000 voice Houghton, Mi 49931
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21: BASRUN.EXE 04-21-1986 RON DUNCAN
Is there a newer policy on the distribution of BASRUN.EXE
then the date of the previous question about this subject?
I recently saw something that suggested there was a more
liberal policy now(about Feb. '86 I believe) than what I read on the
board today(Apr. '86)
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22: HAVE PD SOFTWARE 05-07-1986 SEAN WOODS
If there is anyone who would like to trade PD software please contact
me. We have a few disks and would like to expand our library. Thanks
you!
Sean Woods
Newport County Users Group
Middletown, RI
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23: Sean Woods 05-09-1986 DWAYNE FORSYTH
Sean, would like to trae p.d. software. you did not leave your full
adress. What you left was missing the street address, street, and zip
code.
Dwayne Forsyth
Michigan Tech
MTPCUG
ASC Mailbox
Houghton, MI 49931
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24: Freeware comm. aids 05-12-1986 ROB MACKENNA
Two new packages have been released by SINIS Development Division to
aid those of you who use Qmodem. They are in the form of a Script
file (with ample documentation) for use with Qmodem 2.0+. These
packages, EBBS-LOG.ARC and NOCH-LOG.ARC allow you to auto-logon to any
EBBS (including this one) or NOCHANGE (v6.1) system. Leave message if
interested...
Or call:
Mists of Avalon SINIS-1 -- 919-756-6151
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25: Educational PD SW for 3-5 yr old needed 06-09-1986 MIKE CABAT
One of our members is looking for public domain educational software
that would be appropriate for a 3 to 5 year old and, of course, will
run on an IBM PC. She didn't tell me what kind of monitor she has, so
I assume that color/graphics is no problem.
Please leave me a message if you can give me any leads for her.
Thanks,
Mike Cabat,
Indianapolis IBM PCUG
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26: TELLING THE DIFFERENCE (PD OR NOT?) 06-19-1986 GARY FLEMING
Unfortunately for many, there are a lot of programs making their way
around this country that are both public domain AND copyrighted.
This can be a troubling problem for people who want to keep their
boards and libraries clean. The people who write these programs
surely can take a little longer to include a proper introduction of
their package that would tell the users whether or not they can use
the package in the public domain. I know that there are some good
copyrighted programs that are also PD. The copyrighted material
should be properly labeled (at least before the notice is taken off
by some jerk). Public domain stuff should be clearly marked that the
author intended the program to be passed around the country free of
charge. As far as how I determine how the program is PD or not, I
assume that it is PD until I find out differently. If I did not
follow
this policy, our library would be very small indeed. One thing I do
look at, however, is the size of the program. This is usually a good
way to tell the PD-ness of the program. I don't expect a program less
than 75-100K to be selling on many shelves for $29.95.
Gary Fleming
Baylor Users Group, President
Waco, TX
(817)755-7603
That's all the messages there are.
would consider that Public
domain software. The intent by the author seems to be to get the
1: Contents of the PUBDOMN Topic 11-11-1983 IBM
The purpose of this topic is to discuss issues related to public domain
software. How your group gets it, how you distribute it, what standards
you have for approving it for distribution, formats for documentation, etc.
2: Text Mode Display Compatibility 03-09-1984 BOB KRUGGEL
(This message was re-printed from the March issue of EXCHANGE)
Bob Kruggel
Burlington Vermont Users Group
If you are writing software that is supposed to run with either
the monochrome or graphics display, be aware of some significant
differences between these adapters and how they interpret the
color command. Listed below are the meanings of the foreground
color for the displays.
FORGRND DISPLAY TYPE
COLOR MONO GRAPHICS
0 WHITE BLACK
1 UNDERLINED BLUE
2 WHITE GREEN
3 WHITE CYAN
4 WHITE RED
5 WHITE MAGENTA
6 WHITE BROWN
7 BRIGHT WHITE WHITE
8 BRT UNDLINED GRAY
9 BRIGHT WHITE LT BLUE
10 BRIGHT WHITE LT GREEN
11 BRIGHT WHITE LT CYAN
12 BRIGHT WHITE LT RED
13 BRIGHT WHITE LT MAGENTA
14 BRIGHT WHITE YELLOW
15 BRIGHT WHITE BRT WHITE
Add 16 to the foreground color for blinking on both display
types.
Try to envision what your program will look like on the other
type of display, especially note that there is no underline on
the graphics adapter.
If you are poking directly to the display memory, test for the
type of display being used and adjust your segment accordingly,
as shown below.
DEF SEG=0
SEGTYPE=(PEEK(&H410) AND (&H30)
IF SEGTYPE>32 THEN SEGMENT=&HB000:
ELSE SEGMENT=&HB800
DEF SEG=SEGMENT
Not only will these recommendations make your software useable on
both types of adapters, it will make a user group library
committee's job a lot easier.
3: Boca Distribution of User Group Librarys05-11-1984 KEN HARRISON
Is the Boca user group support function planning on distributing
user group public domain software to other user groups. Are we
allowed to upload our public domain programs so that other user
groups can download them on this TIE?
The next message is:
4: Distribution of Public Domain Software 05-14-1984 USER GROUP SUPPORT
Ken:
No, we do not plan on being able to distribute programs, nor even
lists of programs. We are staying out of this area due to the diff-
iculty in actually determining just what is public domain.
The only activity in this area will be possibly putting together
a document which describes how user groups can best determine what pro-
grams are public domain. If your group has such a guideline please
contribute it here.
Mark Chance IBM User Group Support
The next message is:
5: Are You Sure Its Public Domain? 06-06-1984 KEN HARRISON
I would like to hear from other user groups to see how they make sure
that a peice of software is public domain before they put it in their
library. Sometimes I get the feeling that the attitude is that it
would
be more trouble than it is worth to sue so just put it in anyway and
take it out if anybody starts making noise. Is that in fact the mode
of operation in any club or are you all sure that your programs are
public domain?
The next message is:
6: PC/BLUE PUBLIC DOMAIN Library 11-19-1984 SOL LIBES
The Amateur Computer Group of New Jersey and New York Amateur
Computer Club jointly operate the PC/BLUE Public Domain Software
Library. It currently contains close to 90 disks. For a copy of
the printed catalog listing the contents of all the volumes send
$3 ($4 foreign) to PC/BLUE, Box 97, Iselin NJ 08830.
Clubs who wish to automatically receive new releases, as
issued, call or write: Bob Todd, 1121 Briarwood, Bensalem PA 19020;
(215)752-4604.
Individuals can order the disks from NYACC, Box 106, Church
Street Station, NY NY 1008, or call: (212)864-4595. Disks are $6
postpaid (foreign add $3/order).
The next message is:
7: PD determination of files 11-27-1984 VIC BACHULIS
Greetings: In answer to your question, I determine what is public doman
(domain) and what is not by several methods:
1) Is it in general use?
2) Are there ANY copyright notices and/or restrictions stated in the
physical program itself (yes, this sometimes requires disassembling
the code to look)?
3) Is it listed in any of the numerous catalogs of PD software?
4) I consult other sysops (yes, I am a sysop. Fido 59 in Beaverton,
Oregon, 1-503-629-5581) about the program
5) Have I seen it on other boards either locally or around the
country?
If none of the above items answers that all-important question, I
sometimes have to make a judgement call about a program. A bit
risky, but usually there isn't much of a problem in determining
if a program is PD or not. Hope that helps.
Vic Bachulis, Sysop, Fido 59
Portland IBM PC Users' Group
The next message is:
8: PD software master list ??? 01-02-1985 DOUG WINDHAM
I agree with Vic's comments on how to identify PD software.
At this point there is no 100% sure way to tell.
Now I have a question. How can you catalog effectively all
of the public domain software that is available. I noticed
PC BLUE is at about 90 disks now, which would be hundreds
of programs. Some of which are excellent, some are not so
valuable. How do you know which are good, bad, and so-so
, much less what they all do ?? Anybody got any great ideas
Doug Windham
Disk Librarian
North Texas IBM PC User Group
The next message is:
9: PD SOFTWARE 01-03-1985 E TAMPASIS
I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE NOTICE ON PD SOFTWARE.I'M PRESIDENT OF THE DECAT
UR IBM CLUB IN DECATUR.IL WE'RE NEW TO THE CLUB BUSINESS BUT WE ARE
OFFERING PD SOFTWARE TO OUR MEMBERS.WE BUY THIS SOFTWARE FROM CALF.
C-SIG WE'VE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS YET THEY PUBLISH A MONTHLY
LETT AND KEEP YOU UPDATED ON NEW PD SOFTWARE.I BELIEVE THIS APPROCH MIG
HT BE A BETTER WAY TO PD SOFTWARE.THEY WATCH WHAT THEY PUT OUT.
******************************************
E.A.TAMPASIS
DECATUR,IL
PRESIDENT DECATUR IBM/COMPATIBLES CLUB
***************************************
The next message is:
10: PD SW cataloging and how to do it. 01-16-1985 VIC BACHULIS
Doug -- In response to your query, here is how <I> intend to do it
when I get the time (!)........First off, depending on how your library
is set up, you should probably do a DIR > MASTDIR for EACH AND EVERY
DISK.........Once having done this, go through and mark off each direct
ory listing by volume number. Then, clear out the info about date and
time and file-size using something like PC-WRITE or some editor that wi
ll handle BIG ASCII files. Set up two columns: One for the PROGNAME.EX
T and one for an identifier code. For volume 1 this might be 1A. Go
through and put this code next to each program listed in the DIR for
the first volume. Then go through and do it for the second volume and
third, etc, like so:
PROGNAME.EXT IDENTIFIER
-------------------------
VOLUME 1, COMM SW
=========================
HOSTCALL.EXE 1A
HOSTCALX.EXE 1A
-------------------------
VOLUME 2, BBS STUFF
=========================
PCRBBS.EXE 2B
CONFIG.EXE 2B
Once you have done this, take out ALL the headers so you have nothing l
left except the filename.ext and the identifier:
HOSTCALL.EXE 1A
HOSTCALX.EXE 1A
PCRBBS.EXE 2B
CONFIG.EXE 2B
Then, pipe this baby through SORT or some such program. This way,
you'll be able to find the duplicates relatively easily as well as
have a sorted list of ALL files within your library and be able to
tell what disk exactly a file resides on. I hope this is some help
to you. Let me know. Vic
The next message is:
11: Distribution of BASRUN.EXE 01-23-1985 DOUG WINDHAM
TO: IBM USER GROUP SUPPORT
Is it against IBM policy to distribute BASRUN.EXE with a compiled
BASIC program. I received a donation to our club, but it requires
the BASIC runtime program BASRUN.EXE. The person donating the
program included a copy, but I will not distribute it until I
hear from IBM that it is OK.
The next message is:
12: BASRUN.EXE POLICY 01-24-1985 USER GROUP SUPPORT
The following paragraph is taken from page 4 of the BASIC
Compiler manual.
Application programs which require the BASRUN.EXE
runtime module cannot be distributed without entering
into a license agreement with IBM. A copy of the license
agreement can be obtained by writing to IBM at: P.O. Box
1328-P Boca Raton, FL 33432. Note, however, that it is
possible to develop programs with the BASIC Compiler which
do not use the BASRUN.EXE runtime module, and therefore
don't require the license agreement.
If you compile with the /O option, this tells the compiler to
compile the program so that it does not use the runtime module.
User Group Support
The next message is:
13: PD TESTING PROGRAM BY PCUG OF LICA 02-16-1985 ARTHUR SKOPEC
Though there is no single complete listing of PD programs at this
time, one is in the process of being written. My User Group is
working with the author to review some 300 disks that have been
acquired from other User Group libraries and BBS around the country.
This project will result in a collection of standardized reviews of
included programs along with information on the hardware requirements
to run particular programs. Programs will also be broken down by
categories and their ease of use, utility etc. will be noted.
The next message is:
14: GETTING PD FOR NEW USER GROUP 02-24-1986 GENE SAILSBURY
I WOULD LIKE SOME INPUT ON GETTING PD SOFTWARE FOR OUR NEW USER GROUP.
WOULD SOME OF YOU GIVE ME HINTS. OUR USER GROUP (SOUTHEAST KANSAS PC
USER GROUP) SEKPCUG, HAS VERY LIMITED FUNDS AT THIS TIME BUT WE WOULD
LIKE TO START A PD LIBRARY SOON. WE HAVE DOWNLOADED FROM OTHER BBS BUT
THIS COST A LOT OF MONEY. PLEASE LEAVE ME A NOTE. THANK YOU. ALSO WE
ARE IN NEED OF SOME NEWSLETTERS IF ANYONE HAS SOME TO SEND TO US.
GENE SAILSBURY
206 SOUTH WALNUT
PITTSBURG,KANSAS 66762
PRES. SEKPCUG
The next message is:
15: PD Vs. Shareware. 03-03-1986 MATT HALL
...R...
TO:Anyone knowledgable
Recently a member asked a very intriguing question. "What is the
difference between public domain software and software that is
entitled 'shareware'?"
I have read over a hundred software licensing agreements and have
not been able to come to a conclusion about the difference. Could
someone who is more knowledgable than I am please inform me of
this discrepency?
Thank you,
Matt J Hall
President Manatee PC User's Group
3209 20th Ave. W.
Bradenton,Fl. 33505
The next message is:
16: Shareware vs Public domain 03-05-1986 RALPH JENSEN
My thoughts on the differences between Public domian software are;
Public domain software is software given to the computer user
community with no charge asked for or charged for the software.
Shareware or 'User Supported' is given freely for distribution by any
means( copy freely, BBS downloadable, etc.) But, the author asks the
user to send a donation to him for his work on developing the
software. Shareware is a way of distributing the software. I hope this
helps clear up your questions.
Ralph Jensen
TC/PC Users Group
P.O. Box 3163
Minneapolis, MN 55403
The next message is:
17: Trojan Horse 03-08-1986 DON SINGLETON
WARNING - WARNING - WARNING All PC users! Beware of a new
Trojan Horse program making the rounds on bulletin board
systems on the West Coast. The latest is called ARC600.EXE,
what it does is format every available drive on a system.
The current release version of the legitimate ARChive
program is version 5.12. --This warning copied from a
message on cis that Rob Blaine said he found on the CTSA
board in Austin, TX.
The next message is:
18: Copyright Notice VS. Public Domain 03-14-1986 BOB HERALD
Some software that I would call Public Domain (ARC, i.e.), has a
copyright notice but does not expressly ask for money unless the
user is a corporation or the U.S. Government. It also is in wide
distribution. If it was a "part" it could not be patented. Would
you consider it Public Domain Software? I just pulled out my
copy of the documentation - it states that I am granted a limited
license to use, copy, and distribute it as long as I don't
charge for it or change it. Do you consider it PD?
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19: PD Software with copyright notice 04-01-1986 BRENT AVERA
As long as the license agreeement states that you can use and
distribute the software freely as long as you don't charge and as long
as you are not a Corp. or the US Govt I would consider that Public
domain software. The intent by the author seems to be to get the
software into the hands of the public freely without those who can
afford to pay (corps and govt) distributing the program around their
companies or offices.
It mkes sense that corps and the govt can afford to and should pay for
programs that they use.
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20: Looking for P.D. IBM-Sig software 04-21-1986 DWAYNE FORSYTH
I'm with the Michigan Tech PCUG, we curently have disk 200 through 360
of the PC-SIG. We are looking for user groups who we can trade
software to add to our colection. We would like to stick with only
PC-Sig disk until we have the whole thing (We also know that software
in the IBM-SIG is public Domain, because we are a student organization
at a University, the school is having us prove that the software in
lib. is legal to trade.
Michigan Tech
Dwayne Forsyth MTPCUG
President MTPCUG ACS Mailbox
(906)-487-1000 voice Houghton, Mi 49931
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21: BASRUN.EXE 04-21-1986 RON DUNCAN
Is there a newer policy on the distribution of BASRUN.EXE
then the date of the previous question about this subject?
I recently saw something that suggested there was a more
liberal policy now(about Feb. '86 I believe) than what I read on the
board today(Apr. '86)
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22: HAVE PD SOFTWARE 05-07-1986 SEAN WOODS
If there is anyone who would like to trade PD software please contact
me. We have a few disks and would like to expand our library. Thanks
you!
Sean Woods
Newport County Users Group
Middletown, RI
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23: Sean Woods 05-09-1986 DWAYNE FORSYTH
Sean, would like to trae p.d. software. you did not leave your full
adress. What you left was missing the street address, street, and zip
code.
Dwayne Forsyth
Michigan Tech
MTPCUG
ASC Mailbox
Houghton, MI 49931
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24: Freeware comm. aids 05-12-1986 ROB MACKENNA
Two new packages have been released by SINIS Development Division to
aid those of you who use Qmodem. They are in the form of a Script
file (with ample documentation) for use with Qmodem 2.0+. These
packages, EBBS-LOG.ARC and NOCH-LOG.ARC allow you to auto-logon to any
EBBS (including this one) or NOCHANGE (v6.1) system. Leave message if
interested...
Or call:
Mists of Avalon SINIS-1 -- 919-756-6151
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25: Educational PD SW for 3-5 yr old needed 06-09-1986 MIKE CABAT
One of our members is looking for public domain educational software
that would be appropriate for a 3 to 5 year old and, of course, will
run on an IBM PC. She didn't tell me what kind of monitor she has, so
I assume that color/graphics is no problem.
Please leave me a message if you can give me any leads for her.
Thanks,
Mike Cabat,
Indianapolis IBM PCUG
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26: TELLING THE DIFFERENCE (PD OR NOT?) 06-19-1986 GARY FLEMING
Unfortunately for many, there are a lot of programs making their way
around this country that are both public domain AND copyrighted.
This can be a troubling problem for people who want to keep their
boards and libraries clean. The people who write these programs
surely can take a little longer to include a proper introduction of
their package that would tell the users whether or not they can use
the package in the public domain. I know that there are some good
copyrighted programs that are also PD. The copyrighted material
should be properly labeled (at least before the notice is taken off
by some jerk). Public domain stuff should be clearly marked that the
author intended the program to be passed around the country free of
charge. As far as how I determine how the program is PD or not, I
assume that it is PD until I find out differently. If I did not
follow
this policy, our library would be very small indeed. One thing I do
look at, however, is the size of the program. This is usually a good
way to tell the PD-ness of the program. I don't expect a program less
than 75-100K to be selling on many shelves for $29.95.
Gary Fleming
Baylor Users Group, President
Waco, TX
(817)755-7603
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would consider that Public
domain software. The intent by the author seems to be to get the
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