Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 444

                 Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 444

 

                           Thursday, August 1st 1991

 

Today's Topics:

 

                                 RE: New Planet

                                     (none)

                            Sightings near Pittsburgh

                       Re: Star Trek--The Next Generation

                         Re: JOHN LEAR'S NEW HYPOTHESIS

                                 Re: New Planet

                            Crop circle: Wiltshire,UK

                                   The Coverup

                             Re: Hi -where ya been?

                            ST:TNG -- 'First Contact'

                                 Re: GULF BREEZE

                                    Re: Lear

                      Hoax Circles (reply to Gregory Lush)

                                    Bennewitz

                                  miscellaneous

                             Re: Hi -where ya been?


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From: ucs.usl.edu!pgwres01

Subject: RE: New Planet

Date: 28 Jul 91 21:40:18 GMT


From: Fraering Philip G <pgwres01@ucs.usl.edu>



Two notes about the new planet: it is not the first planet ever

discovered outside our solar system (a Canadian group using radial

spactroscopy has 'seen' some, although the method used seems to

see large close-in planets like Jupiter more readily than

earthlike planets), and it might not be a planet: the 10 earth

masses may just be a lower limit.


Phil Fraering

dmb8516@bss.usl.edu





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From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush

Subject: (none)

Date: 28 Jul 91 21:40:45 GMT


From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)



Subject:  Sightings near Pittsburgh


I heard from a friend who heard from his mother that there

have been regular sightings of a UFO in a suburb of

Pittsburgh.  Apparently this is not just a light like

the present Gulf Breeze sightings, but rather people can

actually see the outline of a ship.  Further, people are

travelling to see it since it makes frequent appearances.


Anybody out in the Pittsburgh area?  Anybody hear about this?


Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)






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From: James.Nugent@f14.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (James Nugent)

Subject: Re: Star Trek--The Next Generation

Date: 26 Jul 91 02:29:00 GMT



You never know!!!!!!!  

 

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From: John.Hrusovszky@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hrusovszky)

Subject: Re: JOHN LEAR'S NEW HYPOTHESIS

Date: 27 Jul 91 07:25:50 GMT


FC> Does anyone out there know if John Lear's new hypothesis is posted on 

FC> any boards around the U.S. , or know any information about it. This is

FC> supposed to be some of what he shared at the West Coast UFO Conference

FC> back in June in Los Angeles.  His posisitomn of late has been rumored 

FC> that things are so far along that "the screaming will all be over 

FC> before anyting can even be done".  Now he is supposed to have new 

FC> information that may shed a little different light on this matter. Thi

FC> is all I know and wondered if anyone else has heard anything.

 

I, for one, would love to hear what he has to say this time.  Does

anyone have any information or text files on this?


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From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg)

Subject: Re: New Planet

Date: 28 Jul 91 09:27:25 GMT


There is a problem if the discoverer of the planet claims that 

scientists agree there is a good chance for life existing on the newly 

discovered planet.  Most obvious to me is that "life as we know it" 

could not be sustained on a planet orbiting a pulsar (neutron star).


     Another problem with the planet (not an arguement against life 

there) is that it should not even be there.  If there star is truly a 

neutron star, it should have went through a supernova stage.  While in 

super nova, it should have either destroyed the orbiting planet or made 

its orbit incredibly elliptical.  However, the scientists say that the 

planet has a normal near circular orbit.  There still may be processes 

to be investigated.


            Danny Brandenburg



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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)

Subject: Crop circle: Wiltshire,UK

Date: 27 Jul 91 09:19:06 GMT



Latest Crop circle news off the Internet:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Article 1012 of alt.alien.visitors:

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors

Subject: Wiltshire Pictograms

Date: 23 Jul 91 10:09:42 GMT

Sender: rob@aixssc.ibm.co.uk (Robert Trevelyan)

Organization: IBM AIX Systems Support Centre, UK.

Lines: 39



        The last few weeks have been very busy for crop circles in

Wiltshire.I took a trip around the key sites and could see about nine

formations varying from dumb-bells , insectograms and pictograms .

Just south of Stonehenge two insectograms and a circle lie in a field.

The insectograms are very large and are of the normal ring , circle ,

path and arc type seen at Upham near Winchester . The circle is a ringed

type with curved spurs .This is obviously near a great deal of tumuli

and the ancient monument where there are a great deal of lay lines that

I am sure cross the field .

        In Alton Barnes , site of last years massive pictogram , there

are three formations . Two of these show the "key" symbol as seen last

year and the third is a variation of a circle . Two of these are in one

field and the other one in a field that faces this one but all three are

within about half a mile of each other and can be seen all at once .

Malborough Downs have about four formations , some very large pictograms

and a dumb-bell as well as a ringed circle with two circles inside touching

and looking as a figure of eight .

        The main formation is at Barbury Castle nearby and appeared at

between 9pm on 16-07-91 and 9am on 17-07-91 according to a local pilot .

At the time of its arrival dramatic sightings of pulsing coloured lights

were made in the area and two witnesses reported seeing a dark object

which flew rapidly overhead blotting out the starlight . Everyone who has

seen this are sure it is genuine apart from Terence Meaden , possibly as

it is a combination of rings, triangles and circles  , not explainable by

an atmospheric vortex  .

I have not seen this yet but will hopefully have some more details on this

later .


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From: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: The Coverup

Date: 26 Jul 91 16:22:00 GMT



 >> In my view...we should be demanding this as a

 >> group, and not be forced to send serious researchers

 >> running around the globe examining corn crops every time a

 >> gopher farts.  This isn't a GAME!  If they really DO exist

 >> and is not just wishful thinking on our parts, then they

 >> should stop wasting time and show themselves! 


 JB> That's the spirit!  Maybe we can just "shame" them out into the open


Absolutely!  Though that may sound humorous...I find nothing funny about having

researchers scurrying about like rats after the cheese, being nothing more than

glorified accident investigators.  If all we are finding out there is straw

figures...then let's stop wasting our time.  If one wants to believe 'greys'

can never be spotted or trapped in the open, then let's just admit defeat now

and let THEM decide when and where to meet (if ever).   After all, THEY are the

'superior' ones, right?  How can we ever hope to win??


Sure, we can continue tying up valuable resources while never having an actual

provable encounter in our lifetime(s).  We can also continue searching for

exciting historical trinkets such as Noah's Ark or the Holy Grail.  But those

are simply OBJECTS (if they truly exist) people!  What we are talking here is a

supposed RACE of beings with obvious intelligence, and look at the way *they*

are playing with *us*.  We run around screaming, "Coverup!" at the government..

"Liars!" at the media...and "Fraud!" at those who claim to have been witnesses.

 All the time...everthing remains status quo...AFU! 


We play accusatory games that would make historical witch hunting an art form.

 In fact...I challenge those who do this, to prove that they are playing

nothing more than modern day witch hunters with white lab coats.  Only

difference I see, is that some may actually BELIEVE there are greys out there

waiting to be discovered.  To others...its a nice diversion from daily life,

such as any hobby would be.  Some make it their business to exploit.  Still

more just pay lip service to the existence of UFOs.  In the end...the greys

remain safely 'out there', while we sit wiping the egg off again, and again as

each new investigation reveals nothing they haven't covered up.


No, this is not an attack against those who are sincere in their research

efforts.  Such individuals are scorned and ridiculed enough as it is.  This is

a scathing open message to the 'greys', themselves.  Yes, I say to the Greys

who are reading this.  You ARE intelligent life forms...right?  You do want to

keep in touch with the pulse of the human's UFO research which is you lurk on

ParaNet echos...right?  Well then, Mr. Grey:


STOP SQUASHING WHEAT FIELDS AND MULTILATING CATTLE!  WE ARE NO LONGER IMPRESSED

WITH SUCH CIRCUS TRICKS!  WE DO NOT CARE TO BE MEDICAL SUBJECTS BECAUSE YOUR

PHYSICIANS CAN'T CURE THE COMMON COLD ANYMORE THAN OURS CAN!  STOP TRYING TO BE

OUR MODERN DAY SAVIOR!  STOP TRYING TO MAKE GULF BREEZE ANYTHING MORE THAN THE

SAD SEASONAL VACATION SPOT IT TRIES TO BE.  SHOW YOUR SCALEY FACES AND PROVE

ONCE AND FOR ALL YOU ARE NOT JUST MYTH OR WISHFUL THINKING ON OUR PARTS!  GIVE

US MUCH MORE THAN FALSE HOPE, SCORCHED EARTH AND BLURRED PHOTOGRAPHS!  TELL US

WHAT YOU WANT AND STOP JERKING OUR CHAIN!


Any takers?  ;-)



\\ParaNet(sm) Alpha-Epsilon



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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: Re: Hi -where ya been?

Date: 28 Jul 91 11:20:00 GMT


Hello Clark!


 CM> Hi Linda!  Thanks ... I feel better already!  The 9600 CompuCom is a

 CM> nice addition, although it can't talk to US Robotics or Hayes 9600

 CM> modems because it's v.29, not v.32/v.32bis.


Well, those who want to consider a new CCom are now in luck.  Although the

older v.29 models won't talk high speed to those others...there are a new

selection of V.32/V.32bis models coming out at the end of August.  Sysop

pricing will make these CCITT compadible units very competitive.  Hope to

check one out, soon.  Now...back to...  :-)





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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: ST:TNG -- 'First Contact'

Date: 28 Jul 91 11:27:00 GMT



 vcc> Add me to the list of people who were blown away by the resemblance of

 vcc> the government's reactions in Star Trek to what our own government

 vcc> might be going through -- the idea that the public isn't ready for it,

 vcc> and all that. The *really* good part was the line about how even

 vcc> though they're going to keep it a secret, there would be rumors...


So I gather the idea of Star Trek being pure science fiction doesn't wash with

anybody anymore?  My...how we love to live out our fantasies.   ;-)



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From: Jim.Delton@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)

Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE

Date: 28 Jul 91 23:21:00 GMT


Well, if I may be forgiven for saying so, I've heard that song before. 

If events, such as have transpired at GB were sufficent proof of 

anything, this mystery would have been solved many many years ago.  The 

sad fact is that GB is not significantly different from any number of 

other "breakthrough" cases over the last 40 or so years.  And the case 

is not made stronger by adopting a posture of if "..they need to keep 

some information from us they must have a good reason.." as if the 

"good reason" could not be to keep the whole charade from crashing.

   So there are 350 supposed witnesses.  Would it matter if there were 

3000 if everything else was the same?  There probably ARE witnesses in 

the thousands to the Hudson Valley UFO!  It should be obvious by now 

that counting witnesses is not getting us anywheres, nor is displaying 

photo's taken by questionable characters who want to maintain certain 

area's of secrecy.

  After all is said and done concerning the GB case, after all the 

effort that has gone into it, where are we??  There is not even 

agreement on the veracity of the primary witness!!!!  And yet we would 

expect the general public to accept the case as "proof" of 

something????  Where are we now, that we weren't 12 or 24 months ago??? 

 Are we more knowledgeable about what UFO's are?  Or where they come 

from??? Or where we can expect to find the next wave??  Or how the 

military responds to OUR actions??  

  Or to look at it from the opposite side, If there had been no GB, 

what would have been the "loss" to the field of UFOlogy??  Would we 

know less??  Would "our" credibility been higher or lower??

  It is not that I think there is anything wrong with investigation of 

GB or any other case, but when people seem to develop emotional 

attachments to "cases" it seems that objectivity goes out the window 

and we wind up with "investigators" acting more like PR fronts then 

anything else because now they have an "investment" to defend.

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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)

Subject: Re: Lear

Date: 29 Jul 91 05:14:00 GMT


Hello Jim,

    Yes, it was you after all who asked for a person to look at the 

Face of Mars, etc.  I don't how to "netmail" so perhaps we could talk 

on the phone?

    I'm in the Mesa, AZ phone book (on Sunview) and you can call me 

collect anytime on Monday, July 29th.

 

Best regards,

Linda

 

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From: mrc-crc.ac.uk!sgamble

Subject: Hoax Circles (reply to Gregory Lush)

Date: 29 Jul 91 23:36:22 GMT


From: Steve Gamble x3293 <sgamble@mrc-crc.ac.uk>



In reply to your question how to detect hoax circles :


I do it by being told by Paul Fuller, Richard Andrews and Busty Taylor

who do actual field investigation of circles! (My circles experience is

(at this point) strictly attending meetings, speaking to people and

examining reports).


Seriously, I believe that the way a circle is clasified as a hoax is

that :

 a) often the cereal is damaged rather than being softly laid

    over

 b) the circles do not have the sharp cut-off at the edge

 c) the hoaxes do not have 'smooth' edges, they are saw-toothed


More controversially Richard dowses circles. The ones which show the

above characteristics do not give an dowsable effect, whereas the

ones which do not show the effects a to c generally do show some

dowsable response. Richard's work is just extra evidence rather than

the diagnostic criteria.


Because the hoax circles take a relatively long time to make (2 to 3

hours or more) there are a few reports of people being seen doing it.

In other cases there are other silly little things like the circle

which had the message 'We are not alone' carvered in the cereal next

to it (surely if it was done by the Greys, or the Greens or whoever

they would write 'YOU are not alone' anyway).


STEVE





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From: vanth!jms

Subject: Bennewitz

Date: 30 Jul 91 05:36:16 GMT


From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)


To: Linda Bird


+Be honest--could it really be possible for there to be a base of Grays

+who are making cocaine?  If so, who are they really making it for?  The

+people who seems to be into cocaine are mostly 'airheads' and "low-

+lifers.'  (Not that I don't feel sorry for them.)  BUT, it seems to me

+that rather than corrupting THOSE people, what about us UFO-watchers

+and people who 'watch-dog' the UFO movement?  Why aren't they tempting

+US with some kind of substance that would render us ineffective?  Do

+you see my point??


I don't believe Bennewitz's new story, I just posted it because someone

said that Lear had changed his outlook on the situation and I thought maybe

something like that was why.


The cocaine was most likely to raise money to keep expanding the bases.

Remember that they're supposedly partly owned by the U.S. even though we

all know it's the aliens who are fully in control (or so we thought

until...)  Also keep in mind the stories of plans to depopulate the planet

through drugs and AIDS.  (I don't believe any of it, but you asked...)


As for corrupting the UFOlogical community with 'some kind of substance

that would render us ineffective', how about *disinformation*?  Bennewitz

certainly got hooked on it, and look what state it's left him in!


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From: vanth!jms

Subject: miscellaneous

Date: 30 Jul 91 05:37:25 GMT


From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)


Gene Gross:  Your theory about the Greys being some type of insect is just

about the most sensible thing I've heard yet.  People have been saying that

they look a little like praying mantises, but the worker bee analogy is

even better.


Michael Corbin:  Please post any further Usenet discussion of the alleged

signals detected in Australia. I hadn't heard anything in the media, and I

don't get sci.astro (right now my feed is having trouble and I'm not

getting anything as a matter of fact.)


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From: Clark.Matthews@f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)

Subject: Re: Hi -where ya been?

Date: 29 Jul 91 20:22:00 GMT


LB>be cheaper.  A new computer always seems to cheer a person

LB>up.  I have a color monitor now, and LOVE it.



Hi Linda!  You'll get a kick out of the ANSI graphics & stuff.  It's rather 

nice in color (if I *do* say so myself...)


Best,

  Clark  

 

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